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    Here's a few runs for you -

    A more limited/compact run with both ancients/moderns pop averages (for south asians) -
     

    "distance%=1.7006" - CR_scaled, @pen=0

    Mala,31.6
    Greek_Crete,26.6
    Macedonian,18
    Turkish_Trabzon,11.8
    Iraqi_Jew,4.6
    Greek_Central_Anatolia,4.4
    Velamas,2.2
    Yemenite_Mahra,0.8


    Full ancients run using pop avgs
     

    CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%
    UZB_Sappali_Tepe_BA_o Anatolia_IA IRN_Ganj_Dareh_Historic IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA
    9.740176 10.670369 11.203315 11.816243
    ARM_Lchashen_MBA RUS_Alan_MA IRN_Hasanlu_IA PAK_Swat_Barikot_IA
    11.909224 12.037186 12.162002 12.292404

    "distance%=1.4285" - CR_scaled, @pen=0

    IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3,20.8
    Anatolia_Isparta_EBA,19.6
    PAK_Swat_Saidu_Sharif_IA_o,17.2
    KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro,14.4
    Levant_ISR_C,9.6
    HUN_ALPc_III_MN,6.2
    Anatolia_Kumtepe_N,5
    RUS_Maykop_Novosvobodnaya,3.2
    AFG_Darra_i_kur_low_res,1.6
    HUN_Tiszapolgar_ECHA,0.8
    TKM_Gonur2_BA,0.6
    IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA,0.4
    LAO_LN_BA,0.4
    MKD_N,0.2



    Full moderns run using pop avgs

     
    Roma Iranian_Bandari Uthmankhel Iranian_Persian
    2.561854 9.484377 9.584872 9.613858
    Tarkalani Iranian_Fars Yusufzai Pashtun
    9.661829 9.730811 9.822531 9.893169

    "distance%=1.5153" - CR_scaled, @pen=0

    Roma,50.2
    Madiga,18.2
    Turkish_Trabzon,12.6
    Samaritan,6.4
    Bosnian,3.8
    Sardinian,3.2
    Iraqi_Jew,2.6
    Greek_Central_Anatolia,1.4
    Macedonian,1
    Mala,0.6

    "distance%=2.0477" - CR_scaled, @pen=0.001

    Roma,73.2
    Lebanese_Christian,0.8
    Lebanese_Druze,0.8
    Mala,0.8
    Paniya,0.8
    Chenchu,0.6
    Cypriot,0.6
    Georgian_Jew,0.6
    Greek_Trabzon,0.6
    Italian_Jew,0.6
    Iyer,0.6
    Lebanese_Muslim,0.6
    Santhal,0.6
    Yemenite_Al_Jawf,0.6
    Balochi,0.4
    Bulgarian,0.4
    Druze,0.4
    Gond,0.4
    Greek_Central_Anatolia,0.4
    Gupta,0.4
    Kol,0.4
    Malayan,0.4
    Pallan,0.4
    Sakilli,0.4
    Samaritan,0.4
    Saudi,0.4
    Tajik_Shugnan,0.4
    Turkish_Adana,0.4
    Turkish_Trabzon,0.4
    Uttar_Pradesh,0.4
    Velamas,0.4
    Yemenite_Ma'rib,0.4
    Algerian,0.2
    Armenian,0.2
    Armenian_Hemsheni,0.2
    Asur,0.2
    BedouinB,0.2
    Belarusian,0.2
    Berber_MAR_TIZ,0.2
    Birhor,0.2
    Brahmin_Gujarat,0.2
    Brahui,0.2
    Chamar,0.2
    Chechen,0.2
    Dusadh,0.2
    French,0.2
    French_South,0.2
    Greek_Crete,0.2
    Gujar,0.2
    Iranian_Fars,0.2
    Iranian_Jew,0.2
    Iranian_Mazandarani,0.2
    Iraqi_Jew,0.2
    Irula,0.2
    Italian_Abruzzo,0.2
    Jatt_Pathak,0.2
    Kalash,0.2
    Kamboj,0.2
    Kanjar,0.2
    Khonda_Dora,0.2
    Korwa,0.2
    Kshatriya,0.2
    Kurdish,0.2
    Kurumba,0.2
    Madiga,0.2
    Makrani,0.2
    Maltese,0.2
    Maratha,0.2
    Moroccan_North,0.2
    North_Kannadi,0.2
    Piramalai,0.2
    Punjabi_Jat,0.2
    Ror,0.2
    Saharawi,0.2
    Sardinian,0.2
    Sindhi,0.2
    Spanish_Murcia,0.2
    Swedish,0.2
    Turkish_Aydin,0.2
    Turkish_Balikesir,0.2
    Turkish_Istanbul,0.2
    Yadava,0.2
    Yemenite_Amran,0.2
    Yemenite_Dhamar,0.2
    Yemenite_Jew,0.2
    Yemenite_Mahra,0.2
    Yusufzai,0.2


    Full moderns w/ Roma avg removed from the model

     
    CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%
    Iranian_Bandari Uthmankhel Iranian_Persian Tarkalani
    9.484377 9.584872 9.613858 9.661829
    Iranian_Fars Yusufzai Pashtun Turkish_Istanbul
    9.730811 9.822531 9.893169 9.968625

    "distance%=1.6426" - CR_scaled, @pen=0

    Madiga,27
    Turkish_Trabzon,23.2
    Macedonian,15.8
    Samaritan,12.2
    Kurumba,7.2
    Sardinian,4.6
    Bosnian,3.4
    Lithuanian,3.4
    Greek_Central_Anatolia,2
    Mala,0.8
    Iraqi_Jew,0.4


    "distance%=3.6904" - CR_scaled, @pen=0.001

    Turkish_Istanbul,23.2
    Yusufzai,8.2
    Kamboj,3.4
    Sindhi,2
    Brahmin_West_Bengal,1.8
    Kashmiri_Pandit,1.8
    Pashtun,1.8
    Lebanese_Muslim,1.6
    Khatri,1.4
    Lebanese_Druze,1.4
    Ror,1.4
    Turkish_Trabzon,1.4
    Ashkenazi_Jew,1.2
    Brahmin_Gujarat,1.2
    Uthmankhel,1.2
    Druze,1
    Georgian_Jew,1
    Greek,1
    Greek_Central_Anatolia,1
    Greek_Crete,1
    Gujarati,1
    Italian_Jew,1
    Brahmin_Tamil_Nadu,0.8
    Dharkar,0.8
    Greek_Trabzon,0.8
    Kanjar,0.8
    Kshatriya,0.8
    Moroccan_Jew,0.8
    Pallan,0.8
    Piramalai,0.8
    Slovenian,0.8
    Assyrian,0.6
    Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh,0.6
    Georgian_Laz,0.6
    Iraqi_Jew,0.6
    Italian_South,0.6
    Kol,0.6
    Lebanese_Christian,0.6
    Mala,0.6
    Maratha,0.6
    North_Kannadi,0.6
    Palestinian,0.6
    Punjabi_Jat,0.6
    Punjabi_Lahore,0.6
    Romanian,0.6
    Romaniote_Jew,0.6
    Saudi,0.6
    Spanish_Aragon,0.6
    Spanish_Baleares,0.6
    Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha,0.6
    Spanish_Valencia,0.6
    Syrian,0.6
    Syrian_Jew,0.6
    Uttar_Pradesh,0.6
    Yemenite_Al_Bayda,0.6
    Yemenite_Ma'rib,0.6
    Albanian,0.4
    Armenian,0.4
    BedouinA,0.4
    Bosnian,0.4
    Chamar,0.4
    Croatian,0.4
    Cypriot,0.4
    Gujar,0.4
    Gupta,0.4
    Ho,0.4
    Iranian_Jew,0.4
    Irula,0.4
    Italian_Tuscan,0.4
    Iyer,0.4
    Kohistani,0.4
    Kurumba,0.4
    Madiga,0.4
    Maltese,0.4
    Moldovan,0.4
    Montenegrin,0.4
    Paniya,0.4
    Samaritan,0.4
    Santhal,0.4
    Sephardic_Jew,0.4
    Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon,0.4
    Velamas,0.4
    Asur,0.2
    Australian,0.2
    Austrian,0.2
    Basque_French,0.2
    Basque_Spanish,0.2
    BedouinB,0.2
    Bengali_Bangladesh,0.2
    Berber_Tunisia_Chen,0.2
    Bulgarian,0.2
    Dusadh,0.2
    Egyptian,0.2
    French_East,0.2
    Hakkipikki,0.2
    Italian_Abruzzo,0.2
    Jarawa,0.2
    Juang,0.2
    Kadar,0.2
    Korwa,0.2
    Kosipe,0.2
    Macedonian,0.2
    Papuan,0.2
    Portuguese,0.2
    Pulliyar,0.2
    Relli,0.2
    Russian_Smolensk,0.2
    Sardinian,0.2
    Sicilian_East,0.2
    Sicilian_West,0.2
    Slovakian,0.2
    Spanish_Andalucia,0.2
    Spanish_Murcia,0.2
    Tunisian_Jew,0.2
    Yadava,0.2
    Yemenite_Al_Jawf,0.2
    Yemenite_Amran,0.2
    Yemenite_Jew,0.2
    Yemenite_Mahra,0.2

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris000009 View Post
    Thanks for runs. Fascinating to think that I still posses that much ancient blood from the subcontinent after a thousand years The later admix seems inline with my ancestral locations. I would like to hear what you think about the results I scored?
    Yeah nice results .. The runs here seem consistent with your 23andMe too - ~ 1/3rd each of south/south central asian, anatolian/west asian & balkans/southern europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scobar View Post
    Here's a few runs for you -

    A more limited/compact run with both ancients/moderns pop averages (for south asians) -
     

    "distance%=1.7006" - CR_scaled, @pen=0

    Mala,31.6
    Greek_Crete,26.6
    Macedonian,18
    Turkish_Trabzon,11.8
    Iraqi_Jew,4.6
    Greek_Central_Anatolia,4.4
    Velamas,2.2
    Yemenite_Mahra,0.8


    Full ancients run using pop avgs
     

    CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%
    UZB_Sappali_Tepe_BA_o Anatolia_IA IRN_Ganj_Dareh_Historic IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA
    9.740176 10.670369 11.203315 11.816243
    ARM_Lchashen_MBA RUS_Alan_MA IRN_Hasanlu_IA PAK_Swat_Barikot_IA
    11.909224 12.037186 12.162002 12.292404

    "distance%=1.4285" - CR_scaled, @pen=0

    IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3,20.8
    Anatolia_Isparta_EBA,19.6
    PAK_Swat_Saidu_Sharif_IA_o,17.2
    KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro,14.4
    Levant_ISR_C,9.6
    HUN_ALPc_III_MN,6.2
    Anatolia_Kumtepe_N,5
    RUS_Maykop_Novosvobodnaya,3.2
    AFG_Darra_i_kur_low_res,1.6
    HUN_Tiszapolgar_ECHA,0.8
    TKM_Gonur2_BA,0.6
    IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA,0.4
    LAO_LN_BA,0.4
    MKD_N,0.2



    Full moderns run using pop avgs

     
    Roma Iranian_Bandari Uthmankhel Iranian_Persian
    2.561854 9.484377 9.584872 9.613858
    Tarkalani Iranian_Fars Yusufzai Pashtun
    9.661829 9.730811 9.822531 9.893169

    "distance%=1.5153" - CR_scaled, @pen=0

    Roma,50.2
    Madiga,18.2
    Turkish_Trabzon,12.6
    Samaritan,6.4
    Bosnian,3.8
    Sardinian,3.2
    Iraqi_Jew,2.6
    Greek_Central_Anatolia,1.4
    Macedonian,1
    Mala,0.6

    "distance%=2.0477" - CR_scaled, @pen=0.001

    Roma,73.2
    Lebanese_Christian,0.8
    Lebanese_Druze,0.8
    Mala,0.8
    Paniya,0.8
    Chenchu,0.6
    Cypriot,0.6
    Georgian_Jew,0.6
    Greek_Trabzon,0.6
    Italian_Jew,0.6
    Iyer,0.6
    Lebanese_Muslim,0.6
    Santhal,0.6
    Yemenite_Al_Jawf,0.6
    Balochi,0.4
    Bulgarian,0.4
    Druze,0.4
    Gond,0.4
    Greek_Central_Anatolia,0.4
    Gupta,0.4
    Kol,0.4
    Malayan,0.4
    Pallan,0.4
    Sakilli,0.4
    Samaritan,0.4
    Saudi,0.4
    Tajik_Shugnan,0.4
    Turkish_Adana,0.4
    Turkish_Trabzon,0.4
    Uttar_Pradesh,0.4
    Velamas,0.4
    Yemenite_Ma'rib,0.4
    Algerian,0.2
    Armenian,0.2
    Armenian_Hemsheni,0.2
    Asur,0.2
    BedouinB,0.2
    Belarusian,0.2
    Berber_MAR_TIZ,0.2
    Birhor,0.2
    Brahmin_Gujarat,0.2
    Brahui,0.2
    Chamar,0.2
    Chechen,0.2
    Dusadh,0.2
    French,0.2
    French_South,0.2
    Greek_Crete,0.2
    Gujar,0.2
    Iranian_Fars,0.2
    Iranian_Jew,0.2
    Iranian_Mazandarani,0.2
    Iraqi_Jew,0.2
    Irula,0.2
    Italian_Abruzzo,0.2
    Jatt_Pathak,0.2
    Kalash,0.2
    Kamboj,0.2
    Kanjar,0.2
    Khonda_Dora,0.2
    Korwa,0.2
    Kshatriya,0.2
    Kurdish,0.2
    Kurumba,0.2
    Madiga,0.2
    Makrani,0.2
    Maltese,0.2
    Maratha,0.2
    Moroccan_North,0.2
    North_Kannadi,0.2
    Piramalai,0.2
    Punjabi_Jat,0.2
    Ror,0.2
    Saharawi,0.2
    Sardinian,0.2
    Sindhi,0.2
    Spanish_Murcia,0.2
    Swedish,0.2
    Turkish_Aydin,0.2
    Turkish_Balikesir,0.2
    Turkish_Istanbul,0.2
    Yadava,0.2
    Yemenite_Amran,0.2
    Yemenite_Dhamar,0.2
    Yemenite_Jew,0.2
    Yemenite_Mahra,0.2
    Yusufzai,0.2


    Full moderns w/ Roma avg removed from the model

     
    CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%
    Iranian_Bandari Uthmankhel Iranian_Persian Tarkalani
    9.484377 9.584872 9.613858 9.661829
    Iranian_Fars Yusufzai Pashtun Turkish_Istanbul
    9.730811 9.822531 9.893169 9.968625

    "distance%=1.6426" - CR_scaled, @pen=0

    Madiga,27
    Turkish_Trabzon,23.2
    Macedonian,15.8
    Samaritan,12.2
    Kurumba,7.2
    Sardinian,4.6
    Bosnian,3.4
    Lithuanian,3.4
    Greek_Central_Anatolia,2
    Mala,0.8
    Iraqi_Jew,0.4


    "distance%=3.6904" - CR_scaled, @pen=0.001

    Turkish_Istanbul,23.2
    Yusufzai,8.2
    Kamboj,3.4
    Sindhi,2
    Brahmin_West_Bengal,1.8
    Kashmiri_Pandit,1.8
    Pashtun,1.8
    Lebanese_Muslim,1.6
    Khatri,1.4
    Lebanese_Druze,1.4
    Ror,1.4
    Turkish_Trabzon,1.4
    Ashkenazi_Jew,1.2
    Brahmin_Gujarat,1.2
    Uthmankhel,1.2
    Druze,1
    Georgian_Jew,1
    Greek,1
    Greek_Central_Anatolia,1
    Greek_Crete,1
    Gujarati,1
    Italian_Jew,1
    Brahmin_Tamil_Nadu,0.8
    Dharkar,0.8
    Greek_Trabzon,0.8
    Kanjar,0.8
    Kshatriya,0.8
    Moroccan_Jew,0.8
    Pallan,0.8
    Piramalai,0.8
    Slovenian,0.8
    Assyrian,0.6
    Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh,0.6
    Georgian_Laz,0.6
    Iraqi_Jew,0.6
    Italian_South,0.6
    Kol,0.6
    Lebanese_Christian,0.6
    Mala,0.6
    Maratha,0.6
    North_Kannadi,0.6
    Palestinian,0.6
    Punjabi_Jat,0.6
    Punjabi_Lahore,0.6
    Romanian,0.6
    Romaniote_Jew,0.6
    Saudi,0.6
    Spanish_Aragon,0.6
    Spanish_Baleares,0.6
    Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha,0.6
    Spanish_Valencia,0.6
    Syrian,0.6
    Syrian_Jew,0.6
    Uttar_Pradesh,0.6
    Yemenite_Al_Bayda,0.6
    Yemenite_Ma'rib,0.6
    Albanian,0.4
    Armenian,0.4
    BedouinA,0.4
    Bosnian,0.4
    Chamar,0.4
    Croatian,0.4
    Cypriot,0.4
    Gujar,0.4
    Gupta,0.4
    Ho,0.4
    Iranian_Jew,0.4
    Irula,0.4
    Italian_Tuscan,0.4
    Iyer,0.4
    Kohistani,0.4
    Kurumba,0.4
    Madiga,0.4
    Maltese,0.4
    Moldovan,0.4
    Montenegrin,0.4
    Paniya,0.4
    Samaritan,0.4
    Santhal,0.4
    Sephardic_Jew,0.4
    Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon,0.4
    Velamas,0.4
    Asur,0.2
    Australian,0.2
    Austrian,0.2
    Basque_French,0.2
    Basque_Spanish,0.2
    BedouinB,0.2
    Bengali_Bangladesh,0.2
    Berber_Tunisia_Chen,0.2
    Bulgarian,0.2
    Dusadh,0.2
    Egyptian,0.2
    French_East,0.2
    Hakkipikki,0.2
    Italian_Abruzzo,0.2
    Jarawa,0.2
    Juang,0.2
    Kadar,0.2
    Korwa,0.2
    Kosipe,0.2
    Macedonian,0.2
    Papuan,0.2
    Portuguese,0.2
    Pulliyar,0.2
    Relli,0.2
    Russian_Smolensk,0.2
    Sardinian,0.2
    Sicilian_East,0.2
    Sicilian_West,0.2
    Slovakian,0.2
    Spanish_Andalucia,0.2
    Spanish_Murcia,0.2
    Tunisian_Jew,0.2
    Yadava,0.2
    Yemenite_Al_Jawf,0.2
    Yemenite_Amran,0.2
    Yemenite_Jew,0.2
    Yemenite_Mahra,0.2
    Thanks for runs. Fascinating to think that I still posses that much ancient blood from the subcontinent after a thousand years The later admix seems inline with my ancestral locations but if Romani derive from NW Indian populations why do I score southern ones? I would like to hear what you think about the results I scored?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scobar View Post
    Yeah nice results .. The runs here seem consistent with your 23andMe too - ~ 1/3rd each of south/south central asian, anatolian/west asian & balkans/southern europe.

    Yeah 23andme did a good job with their beta update only if there were not that much unassigned haha. They actually assigned me with N Indian which lines up but the admixture calcs still show Mala or Madiga which are Southern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris000009 View Post
    Thanks for runs. Fascinating to think that I still posses that much ancient blood from the subcontinent after a thousand years The later admix seems inline with my ancestral locations but if Romani derive from NW Indian populations why do I score southern ones? I would like to hear what you think about the results I scored?
    Which of the runs did you feel were most consistent with your ancestral locations or oral family history?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scobar View Post
    Which of the runs did you feel were most consistent with your ancestral locations or oral family history?
    The first one with more limited reference. As it showed Macedonian, Turkish and Greek. Can’t really tell about the South Asian but I recently did Ethnogene because they are good at picking up ethnicities and would give me an idea of the south Asian populations in my genome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris000009 View Post
    Yeah 23andme did a good job with their beta update only if there were not that much unassigned haha. They actually assigned me with N Indian which lines up but the admixture calcs still show Mala or Madiga which are Southern.
    I don't know enough to give a more intelligent answer..but w/ mixed people & overlapping components it's always tricky. It's picking the best pop/proxy in the model available to it and so these are always constrained by the samples themselves. The last run here does give you some NW groups but the rest of the percentages may be off a bit..

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    Quote Originally Posted by scobar View Post
    I don't know enough to give a more intelligent answer..but w/ mixed people & overlapping components it's always tricky. It's picking the best pop/proxy in the model available to it and so these are always constrained by the samples themselves. The last run here does give you some NW groups but the rest of the percentages may be off a bit..
    Yeah that’s completely understandable. Besides the SA genes in me are not only mixed with other but quite ‘old’ as well. That’s why maybe I drift towards the south. Ready to accept a trophy for most unfit person for DNA analysis

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    Quote Originally Posted by scobar View Post
    Here's a few runs for you -

    A more limited/compact run with both ancients/moderns pop averages (for south asians) -
     

    "distance%=1.7006" - CR_scaled, @pen=0

    Mala,31.6
    Greek_Crete,26.6
    Macedonian,18
    Turkish_Trabzon,11.8
    Iraqi_Jew,4.6
    Greek_Central_Anatolia,4.4
    Velamas,2.2
    Yemenite_Mahra,0.8


    Full ancients run using pop avgs
     

    CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%
    UZB_Sappali_Tepe_BA_o Anatolia_IA IRN_Ganj_Dareh_Historic IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA
    9.740176 10.670369 11.203315 11.816243
    ARM_Lchashen_MBA RUS_Alan_MA IRN_Hasanlu_IA PAK_Swat_Barikot_IA
    11.909224 12.037186 12.162002 12.292404

    "distance%=1.4285" - CR_scaled, @pen=0

    IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3,20.8
    Anatolia_Isparta_EBA,19.6
    PAK_Swat_Saidu_Sharif_IA_o,17.2
    KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro,14.4
    Levant_ISR_C,9.6
    HUN_ALPc_III_MN,6.2
    Anatolia_Kumtepe_N,5
    RUS_Maykop_Novosvobodnaya,3.2
    AFG_Darra_i_kur_low_res,1.6
    HUN_Tiszapolgar_ECHA,0.8
    TKM_Gonur2_BA,0.6
    IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA,0.4
    LAO_LN_BA,0.4
    MKD_N,0.2



    Full moderns run using pop avgs

     
    Roma Iranian_Bandari Uthmankhel Iranian_Persian
    2.561854 9.484377 9.584872 9.613858
    Tarkalani Iranian_Fars Yusufzai Pashtun
    9.661829 9.730811 9.822531 9.893169

    "distance%=1.5153" - CR_scaled, @pen=0

    Roma,50.2
    Madiga,18.2
    Turkish_Trabzon,12.6
    Samaritan,6.4
    Bosnian,3.8
    Sardinian,3.2
    Iraqi_Jew,2.6
    Greek_Central_Anatolia,1.4
    Macedonian,1
    Mala,0.6

    "distance%=2.0477" - CR_scaled, @pen=0.001

    Roma,73.2
    Lebanese_Christian,0.8
    Lebanese_Druze,0.8
    Mala,0.8
    Paniya,0.8
    Chenchu,0.6
    Cypriot,0.6
    Georgian_Jew,0.6
    Greek_Trabzon,0.6
    Italian_Jew,0.6
    Iyer,0.6
    Lebanese_Muslim,0.6
    Santhal,0.6
    Yemenite_Al_Jawf,0.6
    Balochi,0.4
    Bulgarian,0.4
    Druze,0.4
    Gond,0.4
    Greek_Central_Anatolia,0.4
    Gupta,0.4
    Kol,0.4
    Malayan,0.4
    Pallan,0.4
    Sakilli,0.4
    Samaritan,0.4
    Saudi,0.4
    Tajik_Shugnan,0.4
    Turkish_Adana,0.4
    Turkish_Trabzon,0.4
    Uttar_Pradesh,0.4
    Velamas,0.4
    Yemenite_Ma'rib,0.4
    Algerian,0.2
    Armenian,0.2
    Armenian_Hemsheni,0.2
    Asur,0.2
    BedouinB,0.2
    Belarusian,0.2
    Berber_MAR_TIZ,0.2
    Birhor,0.2
    Brahmin_Gujarat,0.2
    Brahui,0.2
    Chamar,0.2
    Chechen,0.2
    Dusadh,0.2
    French,0.2
    French_South,0.2
    Greek_Crete,0.2
    Gujar,0.2
    Iranian_Fars,0.2
    Iranian_Jew,0.2
    Iranian_Mazandarani,0.2
    Iraqi_Jew,0.2
    Irula,0.2
    Italian_Abruzzo,0.2
    Jatt_Pathak,0.2
    Kalash,0.2
    Kamboj,0.2
    Kanjar,0.2
    Khonda_Dora,0.2
    Korwa,0.2
    Kshatriya,0.2
    Kurdish,0.2
    Kurumba,0.2
    Madiga,0.2
    Makrani,0.2
    Maltese,0.2
    Maratha,0.2
    Moroccan_North,0.2
    North_Kannadi,0.2
    Piramalai,0.2
    Punjabi_Jat,0.2
    Ror,0.2
    Saharawi,0.2
    Sardinian,0.2
    Sindhi,0.2
    Spanish_Murcia,0.2
    Swedish,0.2
    Turkish_Aydin,0.2
    Turkish_Balikesir,0.2
    Turkish_Istanbul,0.2
    Yadava,0.2
    Yemenite_Amran,0.2
    Yemenite_Dhamar,0.2
    Yemenite_Jew,0.2
    Yemenite_Mahra,0.2
    Yusufzai,0.2


    Full moderns w/ Roma avg removed from the model

     
    CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%
    Iranian_Bandari Uthmankhel Iranian_Persian Tarkalani
    9.484377 9.584872 9.613858 9.661829
    Iranian_Fars Yusufzai Pashtun Turkish_Istanbul
    9.730811 9.822531 9.893169 9.968625

    "distance%=1.6426" - CR_scaled, @pen=0

    Madiga,27
    Turkish_Trabzon,23.2
    Macedonian,15.8
    Samaritan,12.2
    Kurumba,7.2
    Sardinian,4.6
    Bosnian,3.4
    Lithuanian,3.4
    Greek_Central_Anatolia,2
    Mala,0.8
    Iraqi_Jew,0.4


    "distance%=3.6904" - CR_scaled, @pen=0.001

    Turkish_Istanbul,23.2
    Yusufzai,8.2
    Kamboj,3.4
    Sindhi,2
    Brahmin_West_Bengal,1.8
    Kashmiri_Pandit,1.8
    Pashtun,1.8
    Lebanese_Muslim,1.6
    Khatri,1.4
    Lebanese_Druze,1.4
    Ror,1.4
    Turkish_Trabzon,1.4
    Ashkenazi_Jew,1.2
    Brahmin_Gujarat,1.2
    Uthmankhel,1.2
    Druze,1
    Georgian_Jew,1
    Greek,1
    Greek_Central_Anatolia,1
    Greek_Crete,1
    Gujarati,1
    Italian_Jew,1
    Brahmin_Tamil_Nadu,0.8
    Dharkar,0.8
    Greek_Trabzon,0.8
    Kanjar,0.8
    Kshatriya,0.8
    Moroccan_Jew,0.8
    Pallan,0.8
    Piramalai,0.8
    Slovenian,0.8
    Assyrian,0.6
    Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh,0.6
    Georgian_Laz,0.6
    Iraqi_Jew,0.6
    Italian_South,0.6
    Kol,0.6
    Lebanese_Christian,0.6
    Mala,0.6
    Maratha,0.6
    North_Kannadi,0.6
    Palestinian,0.6
    Punjabi_Jat,0.6
    Punjabi_Lahore,0.6
    Romanian,0.6
    Romaniote_Jew,0.6
    Saudi,0.6
    Spanish_Aragon,0.6
    Spanish_Baleares,0.6
    Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha,0.6
    Spanish_Valencia,0.6
    Syrian,0.6
    Syrian_Jew,0.6
    Uttar_Pradesh,0.6
    Yemenite_Al_Bayda,0.6
    Yemenite_Ma'rib,0.6
    Albanian,0.4
    Armenian,0.4
    BedouinA,0.4
    Bosnian,0.4
    Chamar,0.4
    Croatian,0.4
    Cypriot,0.4
    Gujar,0.4
    Gupta,0.4
    Ho,0.4
    Iranian_Jew,0.4
    Irula,0.4
    Italian_Tuscan,0.4
    Iyer,0.4
    Kohistani,0.4
    Kurumba,0.4
    Madiga,0.4
    Maltese,0.4
    Moldovan,0.4
    Montenegrin,0.4
    Paniya,0.4
    Samaritan,0.4
    Santhal,0.4
    Sephardic_Jew,0.4
    Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon,0.4
    Velamas,0.4
    Asur,0.2
    Australian,0.2
    Austrian,0.2
    Basque_French,0.2
    Basque_Spanish,0.2
    BedouinB,0.2
    Bengali_Bangladesh,0.2
    Berber_Tunisia_Chen,0.2
    Bulgarian,0.2
    Dusadh,0.2
    Egyptian,0.2
    French_East,0.2
    Hakkipikki,0.2
    Italian_Abruzzo,0.2
    Jarawa,0.2
    Juang,0.2
    Kadar,0.2
    Korwa,0.2
    Kosipe,0.2
    Macedonian,0.2
    Papuan,0.2
    Portuguese,0.2
    Pulliyar,0.2
    Relli,0.2
    Russian_Smolensk,0.2
    Sardinian,0.2
    Sicilian_East,0.2
    Sicilian_West,0.2
    Slovakian,0.2
    Spanish_Andalucia,0.2
    Spanish_Murcia,0.2
    Tunisian_Jew,0.2
    Yadava,0.2
    Yemenite_Al_Jawf,0.2
    Yemenite_Amran,0.2
    Yemenite_Jew,0.2
    Yemenite_Mahra,0.2
    Thank you so much for this.

    I've never seen a Romani run in nMonte before; this would explain many of the non-western Euro populations I get on the nMonte oracle in yourDNAportal.
    Ethnogene (most accurate so far IMO): Frisian 2.8%, Scottish 19.2%, Welsh 2.4%, English 29.0%, Irish 31.7%, Cornish 1.9%, Irish Traveller 4.0%, French 2.6%, Dutch 1.0%, German 1.8%, Western Indian 1.1%, Central/Southern Ashkenazi 1.0%, Norwegian 1.5%

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