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Thread: Tested positive for R1a1a1a-L664 (from Sweden)

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    Tested positive for R1a1a1a-L664 (from Sweden)

    What can you guys tell me about this subclade?

    MorleyDNA doesn't go deeper due to their old ISOGG tree from 2013.
    https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal
    https://ytree.morleydna.com/

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    R1a1a1a-L664.png

    Old 2013 tree
    2013.jpg

    Newer tree from 2016, a lot more subclades
    R1a1a1a-L664 Sweden (2016).jpg

    Distribution of L664 (2015)
    Haplogroup R1a Subclades, L664 ( I, Rozhanskii 2015).jpg

    Where can I find some ancient L664 samples?
    Last edited by Snkves; 07-25-2019 at 12:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snkves View Post
    What can you guys tell me about this subclade?

    MorleyDNA doesn't go deeper due to their old ISOGG tree from 2013.
    https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal
    https://ytree.morleydna.com/

    Screenshot
    R1a1a1a-L664.png

    Old tree 2013 tree
    2013.jpg

    Newer tree from 2016, a lot more subclades
    R1a1a1a-L664 Sweden (2016).jpg

    Distribution of L664 (2015)
    Haplogroup R1a Subclades, L664 ( I, Rozhanskii 2015).jpg

    Where can I find some ancient L664 samples?
    I think it is a very rare lineage, however considering its survival in mostly Germanic an Scandinavian peoples, its likely related to or originally Proto-Germanic.

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    See the R1a project at FTDNA (Family Tree DNA). There are two R1a projects. I usually check the "R1a project". It is more detailed than the "R1a and Subclades" (or whatever it is called exactly). L664 is conveniently on the first page, reflecting it being older than other subclades. My sample is in the light green region (kit # 54319).

    https://www.familytreedna.com/public...frame=yresults
    Last edited by Baltimore1937; 07-28-2019 at 12:39 PM.

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    Maybe you have already seen this phylogenic tree from Europedia.
    Attachment 32041
    Without testing deeper, no sure answer, also not sure if there are any SNP packs on familytree DNA for this to get deeper Clade.
    But could well be the ancient migration to West Europe and Scandinavia.
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    I am L664. They have unearthed an L664 sample from Bergrheinfeld, Germany, subclade S3479. It is an old Western Germanic subclade, not many samples taken yet. There are many in southwestern England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RVBLAKE View Post
    I am L664. They have unearthed an L664 sample from Bergrheinfeld, Germany, subclade S3479. It is an old Western Germanic subclade, not many samples taken yet. There are many in southwestern England.
    I am L664, from Guipuzcoa, Basque Country, Spain- I really didn't imagine that connection with the Germans. In Guipucoa between 15-20% of men are R1a

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    My allele results from YSEQ's R1a-L664 panel.

    Marker+ Chr Start End Allele
    A15221 ChrY 15691214 15691214 A-
    A21060 ChrY 15691656 15691656 C-
    BY117488 ChrY 15691180 15691180 A-
    BY117489 ChrY 15691223 15691223 C-
    BY117490 ChrY 15691225 15691225 C-
    BY117491 ChrY 15691245 15691245 T-
    BY117492 ChrY 15691554 15691554 G-
    BY117493 ChrY 15691555 15691555 C-
    BY117494 ChrY 15691624 15691624 G-
    BY184576 ChrY 15691637 15691637 A-
    BY203711 ChrY 15691368 15691368 C-
    BY203712 ChrY 15691370 15691370 C-
    BZ2710 ChrY 15691226 15691226 C-
    CTS8030 ChrY 15691357 15691357 C-
    CTS8031 ChrY 15691470 15691470 T-
    F2598 ChrY 15691141 15691141 A-
    F22140 ChrY 15691151 15691151 C-
    FGC26966 ChrY 15691637 15691637 A+
    FGC42795 ChrY 15691431 15691431 A-
    FGC67359 ChrY 15691393 15691393 C-
    FT54250 ChrY 15691495 15691495 G-
    FT61816 ChrY 15691623 15691623 G-
    M2234 ChrY 15691141 15691141 A-
    M4636 ChrY 15691221 15691221 C-
    MF27662 ChrY 15691499 15691499 C-
    MF47772 ChrY 15691521 15691521 T-
    MF74223 ChrY 15691612 15691612 G-
    MF99653 ChrY 15691483 15691483 C-
    MF112969 ChrY 15691227 15691227 A-
    MF112970 ChrY 15691583 15691583 T-
    S2894 ChrY 15691171 15691171 T+
    V6915 ChrY 15691637 15691637 A-
    Y35049 ChrY 15691379 15691379 T-
    Y53742 ChrY 15691409 15691409 C-
    Y100266 ChrY 15691446 15691446 G-
    Y100267 ChrY 15691449 15691449 G-
    Y100268 ChrY 15691488 15691488 C-
    Y136694 ChrY 15691207 15691207 G-
    Y145883 ChrY 15691209 15691209 A-
    Y154984 ChrY 15691445 15691445 T-
    YP2045 ChrY 15691637 15691637 A+
    Z1704 ChrY 15691357 15691357 C-
    Z29210 ChrY 15691547 15691547 A-
    Z45892 ChrY 15691488 15691488 C-
    ZS5546 ChrY 15691549 15691549 G-
    YSEQ: Y-DNA R1-R1a-M459-M198-M417-CTS4385-L664-S2894-S2880 "All known downstream branches have been confirmed negative."

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    Cephalic Index: 70.64
    Bigonial breadth: 105 mm
    Facial Index: 95.79

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    YSEQ processing since 4th October.

    So far they've confirmed S2894 as positive and YP441 as negative.


    YSEQ: Y-DNA R1-R1a-M459-M198-M417-CTS4385-L664-S2894-S2880 "All known downstream branches have been confirmed negative."

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    Cephalic Index: 70.64
    Bigonial breadth: 105 mm
    Facial Index: 95.79

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    It's uncommon but seems to peak in Scandis; I've seen some English from east England score this Y dna (heavily viking settled region); I suspect it was spread by the vikings.

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