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    UP Syed Results

    Hey guys not sure if we have a thread for UP Syeds but if we don't then please feel free to post them on here! (dont care if its shia or sunni)

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    I'm a UP Syed also.

    Paternal line is from Lucknow and maternal line is from Barabanki and Fatehpur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subzero85 View Post
    I'm a UP Syed also.

    Paternal line is from Lucknow and maternal line is from Barabanki and Fatehpur.
    Post your harappaworld results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subzero85 View Post
    I'm a UP Syed also.

    Paternal line is from Lucknow and maternal line is from Barabanki and Fatehpur.
    Are they Shia or Sunni?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deuterium_1 View Post
    Are they Shia or Sunni?
    They are Twelver Shias

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    HarrappaWorld Calculator Admix Results:
    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 35.03
    2 Baloch 33.17
    3 Caucasian 13.83
    4 NE-Euro 7.47
    5 SE-Asian 1.22
    6 Siberian 1.77
    7 NE-Asian 2.16
    8 Papuan 0.64
    9 American 0.59
    10 Beringian 0.72
    11 Mediterranean 0.96
    12 SW-Asian 2.45

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    I'm HRP0261 which is 1 or 2 points off from the above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by subzero85 View Post
    HarrappaWorld Calculator Admix Results:
    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 35.03
    2 Baloch 33.17
    3 Caucasian 13.83
    4 NE-Euro 7.47
    5 SE-Asian 1.22
    6 Siberian 1.77
    7 NE-Asian 2.16
    8 Papuan 0.64
    9 American 0.59
    10 Beringian 0.72
    11 Mediterranean 0.96
    12 SW-Asian 2.45

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    I'm HRP0261 which is 1 or 2 points off from the above.
    Minor changes compared to my more recent Dec 2018 Ancestry DNA sample. The one in the original post is a V3 23andMe chip.

    Fell off: Papuan, Beringian, Mediterranean, American

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 35.07
    2 Baloch 33.09
    3 Caucasian 13.98
    4 NE-Euro 7.55
    5 SW-Asian 2.44
    6 NE-Asian 2.14
    7 Siberian 1.60
    8 SE-Asian 1.39


    Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
    16 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 up-muslim_harappa @ 4.258687
    2 gujarati-muslim_harappa @ 5.605956
    3 pushtikar-brahmin_harappa @ 6.874298
    4 kashmiri_harappa @ 6.919294
    5 punjabi_harappa @ 7.350448
    6 kashmiri-pandit_reich @ 7.608575
    7 punjabi-jatt-muslim_harappa @ 7.702570
    8 nepali_harappa @ 8.371769
    9 punjabi-brahmin_harappa @ 9.137146
    10 punjabi-khatri_harappa @ 9.530708
    11 singapore-indian-c_sgvp @ 9.609169
    12 kashmiri-pahari_harappa @ 9.735233
    13 punjabi-ramgarhia_harappa @ 10.577376
    14 rajasthani-brahmin_harappa @ 10.716593
    15 up-brahmin_harappa @ 11.373217
    16 nepalese-a_xing @ 11.465198
    17 bihari-muslim_harappa @ 11.579117
    18 sindhi_harappa @ 11.790005
    19 bihari-brahmin_harappa @ 12.002022
    20 bengali-brahmin_harappa @ 12.032924

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% ap-hyderabad_harappa +50% pashtun_harappa @ 1.943480


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% kerala-brahmin_harappa +25% north-ossetian_harappa +25% tharu_metspalu @ 1.008425


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 gujarati_harappa + kerala-brahmin_harappa + kerala-muslim_harappa + kumyk_yunusbayev @ 0.898284
    2 gujarati-b_hapmap + kerala-brahmin_harappa + kerala-muslim_harappa + kumyk_yunusbayev @ 1.001693
    3 kerala-brahmin_harappa + kerala-brahmin_harappa + north-ossetian_harappa + tharu_metspalu @ 1.008425
    4 gujarati_harappa + kerala-brahmin_harappa + north-ossetian_harappa + singapore-indian-b_sgvp @ 1.044820
    5 bihari_harappa + kerala-brahmin_harappa + kerala-nair_harappa + kumyk_yunusbayev @ 1.047545
    6 kerala-brahmin_harappa + kerala-brahmin_harappa + north-ossetian_harappa + up-muslim_metspalu @ 1.079673
    7 kerala-brahmin_harappa + kerala-brahmin_harappa + kumyk_yunusbayev + tharu_metspalu @ 1.097034
    8 bengali_metspalu + gujarati_harappa + kerala-brahmin_harappa + kumyk_yunusbayev @ 1.122332
    9 ap-reddy_harappa + bengali-brahmin_harappa + kerala-brahmin_harappa + kumyk_yunusbayev @ 1.132276
    10 bengali_metspalu + kerala-brahmin_harappa + kerala-nair_harappa + kumyk_yunusbayev @ 1.138419
    11 ap-reddy_harappa + brahmin-uttar-pradesh_metspalu + kerala-brahmin_harappa + north-ossetian_harappa @ 1.188269
    12 iyengar-brahmin_harappa + kerala-brahmin_harappa + north-ossetian_harappa + singapore-indian-b_sgvp @ 1.200401
    13 kerala-brahmin_harappa + kerala-brahmin_harappa + kurmi_metspalu + north-ossetian_harappa @ 1.210450
    14 kerala-brahmin_harappa + kerala-muslim_harappa + kumyk_yunusbayev + meghawal_reich @ 1.211830
    15 bihari_harappa + kerala-brahmin_harappa + kerala-nair_harappa + north-ossetian_harappa @ 1.216384
    16 kanjar_metspalu + kerala-brahmin_harappa + kerala-brahmin_harappa + north-ossetian_harappa @ 1.216638
    17 gujarati-b_hapmap + kerala-brahmin_harappa + kerala-muslim_harappa + north-ossetian_harappa @ 1.220054
    18 kerala-brahmin_harappa + kurmi_metspalu + meghawal_reich + north-ossetian_harappa @ 1.224336
    19 gujarati-a_1000genomes + kerala-muslim_harappa + kumyk_yunusbayev + nepalese-a_xing @ 1.225419
    20 gujarati-a_hapmap + kerala-muslim_harappa + kumyk_yunusbayev + nepalese-a_xing @ 1.232786

    Done.

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    I honestly had a similar idea of making a table that had samples of South Asian Syeds with sects, admixture results and haplgroups.

    I have seen some incredibly diverse haplogroups with South Asian Syeds as a whole:

    For example Amroha Naqvis with I2b1 (must be some fascinating story there).

    On the whole I have seen:

    J1
    J2
    EV-12
    R1a
    R2
    R1b
    H-M82
    I2b1
    L1

    Also three Jaffery men I know are all J-M47 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-M47/), but at least two out of three are distantly related. I know a fourth one is getting tested, I want to see if this pattern continues to hold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by subzero85 View Post
    I honestly had a similar idea of making a table that had samples of South Asian Syeds with sects, admixture results and haplgroups.

    I have seen some incredibly diverse haplogroups with South Asian Syeds as a whole:

    For example Amroha Naqvis with I2b1 (must be some fascinating story there).

    On the whole I have seen:

    J1
    J2
    EV-12
    R1a
    R2
    R1b
    H-M82
    I2b1
    L1

    Also three Jaffery men I know are all J-M47 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-M47/), but at least two out of three are distantly related. I know a fourth one is getting tested, I want to see if this pattern continues to hold.
    This might help:

    https://www.familytreedna.com/public...frame=yresults

    https://www.familytreedna.com/public...frame=yresults

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    With UP Shia being West Eurasian inflected on the Y-Haplo.

    But also being normally Indian on the mtDNA does suggest that conversions to Shia Islam of South Asians were gender biased toward females.

    One of the main reasons why I did genetic testing was to find out if I had MENA/Central Asian paternal ancestry... I came out as J2 so I did further testing to get closer to if my J2 was from an ancient migration to India or if it was a recent MENA/Central Asian ancestor.
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