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    Found a Syed:

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 41.24
    2 Baloch 34.37
    3 Caucasian 7.58
    4 NE-Euro 6.92
    5 Siberian 3.67
    6 Mediterranean 2.93
    7 SW-Asian 1.34
    8 Beringian 1.3
    9 American 0.26
    10 SE-Asian 0.24
    11 NE-Asian 0.15

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 bihari-muslim (harappa) 4.18
    2 bengali-brahmin (harappa) 5.39
    3 karnataka-brahmin (harappa) 6.12
    4 up-kshatriya (metspalu) 6.16
    5 vaish (reich) 6.25
    6 maharashtrian (harappa) 6.26
    7 up-brahmin (harappa) 6.34
    8 meghawal (reich) 6.35
    9 brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) 6.4
    10 gujarati-b (hapmap) 6.86
    11 tn-brahmin (xing) 7.41
    12 up-muslim (harappa) 7.42
    13 brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) 7.43
    14 gujarati (harappa) 7.5
    15 rajasthani (harappa) 7.92
    16 iyer-brahmin (harappa) 7.95
    17 iyengar-brahmin (harappa) 7.95
    18 cochin-jew (behar) 8.59
    19 ap-brahmin (xing) 8.62
    20 up (harappa) 8.73

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 90% meghawal (reich) + 10% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 2.66
    2 91.3% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 8.7% lebanese-muslim (haber) @ 2.82
    3 87.5% iyengar-brahmin (harappa) + 12.5% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 2.82
    4 90.8% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 9.2% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 2.83
    5 91.7% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 8.3% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 2.84
    6 90.3% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 9.7% azeri (harappa) @ 2.85
    7 91.8% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 8.2% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 2.86
    8 90.8% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 9.2% turk (behar) @ 2.86
    9 90.3% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 9.7% turkish (harappa) @ 2.87
    10 87.3% iyengar-brahmin (harappa) + 12.7% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 2.88
    11 90% meghawal (reich) + 10% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 2.89
    12 90.6% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 9.4% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 2.94
    13 91.3% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 8.7% lebanese (behar) @ 2.95
    14 92.5% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 7.5% druze (hgdp) @ 2.96
    15 90.2% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 9.8% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 2.96
    16 91% meghawal (reich) + 9% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 2.96
    17 91.9% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 8.1% cypriot (behar) @ 2.97
    18 90.8% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 9.2% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) @ 2.97
    19 91.7% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 8.3% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 2.97
    20 90.9% meghawal (reich) + 9.1% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 2.97
    Maternal Grandfather's Maternal Line: U7a3a

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amber29 View Post
    Found a Syed:

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 41.24
    2 Baloch 34.37
    3 Caucasian 7.58
    4 NE-Euro 6.92
    5 Siberian 3.67
    6 Mediterranean 2.93
    7 SW-Asian 1.34
    8 Beringian 1.3
    9 American 0.26
    10 SE-Asian 0.24
    11 NE-Asian 0.15

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 bihari-muslim (harappa) 4.18
    2 bengali-brahmin (harappa) 5.39
    3 karnataka-brahmin (harappa) 6.12
    4 up-kshatriya (metspalu) 6.16
    5 vaish (reich) 6.25
    6 maharashtrian (harappa) 6.26
    7 up-brahmin (harappa) 6.34
    8 meghawal (reich) 6.35
    9 brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) 6.4
    10 gujarati-b (hapmap) 6.86
    11 tn-brahmin (xing) 7.41
    12 up-muslim (harappa) 7.42
    13 brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) 7.43
    14 gujarati (harappa) 7.5
    15 rajasthani (harappa) 7.92
    16 iyer-brahmin (harappa) 7.95
    17 iyengar-brahmin (harappa) 7.95
    18 cochin-jew (behar) 8.59
    19 ap-brahmin (xing) 8.62
    20 up (harappa) 8.73

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 90% meghawal (reich) + 10% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 2.66
    2 91.3% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 8.7% lebanese-muslim (haber) @ 2.82
    3 87.5% iyengar-brahmin (harappa) + 12.5% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 2.82
    4 90.8% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 9.2% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 2.83
    5 91.7% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 8.3% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 2.84
    6 90.3% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 9.7% azeri (harappa) @ 2.85
    7 91.8% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 8.2% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 2.86
    8 90.8% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 9.2% turk (behar) @ 2.86
    9 90.3% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 9.7% turkish (harappa) @ 2.87
    10 87.3% iyengar-brahmin (harappa) + 12.7% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 2.88
    11 90% meghawal (reich) + 10% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 2.89
    12 90.6% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 9.4% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 2.94
    13 91.3% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 8.7% lebanese (behar) @ 2.95
    14 92.5% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 7.5% druze (hgdp) @ 2.96
    15 90.2% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 9.8% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 2.96
    16 91% meghawal (reich) + 9% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 2.96
    17 91.9% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 8.1% cypriot (behar) @ 2.97
    18 90.8% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 9.2% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) @ 2.97
    19 91.7% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 8.3% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 2.97
    20 90.9% meghawal (reich) + 9.1% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 2.97
    I think I know that guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subzero85 View Post
    I think I know that guy.
    hes a match of my nani LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by subzero85 View Post
    I honestly had a similar idea of making a table that had samples of South Asian Syeds with sects, admixture results and haplgroups.

    I have seen some incredibly diverse haplogroups with South Asian Syeds as a whole:

    For example Amroha Naqvis with I2b1 (must be some fascinating story there).

    On the whole I have seen:

    J1
    J2
    EV-12
    R1a
    R2
    R1b
    H-M82
    I2b1
    L1

    Also three Jaffery men I know are all J-M47 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-M47/), but at least two out of three are distantly related. I know a fourth one is getting tested, I want to see if this pattern continues to hold.
    Yup i am Gilani Syed myself but from Punjab but my haplogroup is R1a-L657. Moms side is Bukhari Syed and I would assume the higher SW Asian comes from that side

    Here are my results:
    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 36.87
    2 S-Indian 34.98
    3 Caucasian 11.66
    4 NE-Euro 4.93
    5 SW-Asian 3.09
    6 Siberian 2.30
    7 NE-Asian 1.62
    8 Mediterranean 1.43
    9 American 1.26


    Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
    16 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 gujarati-muslim_harappa @ 3.901573
    2 up-muslim_harappa @ 4.858975
    3 punjabi_harappa @ 5.215646
    4 kashmiri-pandit_reich @ 6.330375
    5 kashmiri-pahari_harappa @ 6.608236
    6 punjabi-jatt-muslim_harappa @ 6.661058
    7 kashmiri_harappa @ 7.349242
    8 singapore-indian-c_sgvp @ 7.420680
    9 pushtikar-brahmin_harappa @ 7.464443
    10 punjabi-ramgarhia_harappa @ 7.479475
    11 punjabi-brahmin_harappa @ 7.575203
    12 punjabi-arain_xing @ 9.280058
    13 nepali_harappa @ 9.631823
    14 punjabi-khatri_harappa @ 9.745637
    15 bihari-brahmin_harappa @ 10.640944
    16 sindhi_harappa @ 10.677463
    17 up-brahmin_harappa @ 10.683998
    18 nepalese-a_xing @ 10.806264
    19 punjabi-jatt-sikh_harappa @ 11.138310
    20 rajasthani-brahmin_harappa @ 11.214934

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% cochin-jew_behar +50% sindhi_harappa @ 2.534530


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% gujarati-a_1000genomes +25% punjabi-khatri_harappa +25% turkmen_yunusbayev @ 1.487738


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 gujarati-a_1000genomes + meghawal_metspalu + sindhi_hgdp + turkmen_yunusbayev @ 1.100458
    2 kerala-nair_harappa + sindhi_hgdp + turkmen_yunusbayev + velama_reich @ 1.217153
    3 gujarati-a_hapmap + meghawal_metspalu + sindhi_hgdp + turkmen_yunusbayev @ 1.226380
    4 kerala-nair_harappa + sindhi_hgdp + turkmen_yunusbayev + velama_metspalu @ 1.249897
    5 bhatia_harappa + gujarati-a_1000genomes + turkmen_yunusbayev + velama_reich @ 1.346680
    6 ap-hyderabad_harappa + gujarati-a_hapmap + sindhi_hgdp + turkmen_yunusbayev @ 1.378604
    7 gujarati-a_1000genomes + meghawal_metspalu + punjabi-arain_xing + turkmen_yunusbayev @ 1.408021
    8 bhatia_harappa + gujarati-a_1000genomes + turkmen_yunusbayev + velama_metspalu @ 1.413187
    9 gujarati-a_hapmap + kerala-christian_harappa + punjabi-arain_xing + turkmen_yunusbayev @ 1.414712
    10 kerala-nair_harappa + punjabi-arain_xing + turkmen_yunusbayev + velama_metspalu @ 1.416191
    11 iyer-brahmin_harappa + sindhi_hgdp + turkmen_yunusbayev + velama_metspalu @ 1.416935
    12 sindhi_hgdp + tn-brahmin_xing + turkmen_yunusbayev + velama_metspalu @ 1.419791
    13 gujarati-a_hapmap + sindhi_hgdp + tamil_harappa + turkmen_yunusbayev @ 1.426883
    14 gujarati-patel_harappa + meghawal_metspalu + sindhi_hgdp + turkmen_yunusbayev @ 1.443558
    15 ap-hyderabad_harappa + gujarati-a_1000genomes + sindhi_hgdp + turkmen_yunusbayev @ 1.451126
    16 bhatia_harappa + gujarati-patel_harappa + turkmen_yunusbayev + velama_reich @ 1.456728
    17 gujarati-a_1000genomes + sindhi_hgdp + tamil_harappa + turkmen_yunusbayev @ 1.456978
    18 bhatia_harappa + gujarati-a_hapmap + turkmen_yunusbayev + velama_reich @ 1.463105
    19 kerala-nair_harappa + punjabi-arain_xing + turkmen_yunusbayev + velama_reich @ 1.464353
    20 iyer-brahmin_harappa + sindhi_hgdp + turkmen_yunusbayev + velama_reich @ 1.467401

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    Can anyone take a guess at ethnicities/backgrounds of some of my ancestors based on surnames? I see the names "Syed Muhammad Qannoji", "Syed Waris Ali Gilani Qadri", "Molvi Syed Muhammad Fazil" on some maternal branches of my shajra centuries back. They seem like generic Muslim names so it's hard to tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistani View Post
    Can anyone take a guess at ethnicities/backgrounds of some of my ancestors based on surnames? I see the names "Syed Muhammad Qannoji", "Syed Waris Ali Gilani Qadri", "Molvi Syed Muhammad Fazil" on some maternal branches of my shajra centuries back. They seem like generic Muslim names so it's hard to tell.
    Gilani I would say most likely came from Delhi and then moved into Punjab but I could be wrong. Just using my families history as an indicator. The other ones are very generic its hard to tell tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistani View Post
    Can anyone take a guess at ethnicities/backgrounds of some of my ancestors based on surnames? I see the names "Syed Muhammad Qannoji", "Syed Waris Ali Gilani Qadri", "Molvi Syed Muhammad Fazil" on some maternal branches of my shajra centuries back. They seem like generic Muslim names so it's hard to tell.
    I see that one one of your ancestors used both Gilani and Qadri. It's interesting because that combination almost certainly signifies followership or descent from Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jilani/Gilani of Baghdad. I had always assumed this was a given (my nani has adopted the surname Qadri due to her folllowership of the order), but I've met Shia Syeds in Pakistan who identify as Gilani Sadat (esp in the South Punjab region) but don't claim a link with Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jilani.

    Perhaps Raza94 can help with this. Bro, does your Gilani side link back to Shaikh Abdul Qadir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistani View Post
    Can anyone take a guess at ethnicities/backgrounds of some of my ancestors based on surnames? I see the names "Syed Muhammad Qannoji", "Syed Waris Ali Gilani Qadri", "Molvi Syed Muhammad Fazil" on some maternal branches of my shajra centuries back. They seem like generic Muslim names so it's hard to tell.
    'Qannoji' refers to an inhabitant of Kanauj. Do you have ancestry from that area?

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    My great grandmother's stepmother belonged to the Gardezi Syeds of Manikpur in Uttar Pradesh, they are mentioned in the Ain-i-Akbari which was written by Abu Fazl in the 16th Century during the reign of Akbar:

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...page&q&f=false
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulin View Post
    'Qannoji' refers to an inhabitant of Kanauj. Do you have ancestry from that area?
    I'm not sure because he's the earliest name on that specific branch of the shajra, but I assume so based on his surname?

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