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Thread: Southeast populations pull to Southwest when given the opportunity in G25 calcs

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    Southeast populations pull to Southwest when given the opportunity in G25 calcs

    I was messing around with some modern population calculators yesterday, attempting to make a basic separation calculator between NW European pops and SE European populations for people of mixed background like myself. However, I got carried away and started adding baltic regions etc...

    When I add a SW Iberian component, 20% of the roughly 25-30% SE European I have gets pulled to the Iberian. Doesnt matter if its Spanish, Portuguese, or even French or Spanish Basque.
    With Iberian:
    "sample": "Test1:ChrisDNA_scaled",
    "fit": 2.5112,
    "Northwest": 42.5,
    "Southeast": 21.67,
    "Iberian": 20,
    "Baltic": 15.83,.

    Without:
    "sample": "Test1:ChrisDNA_scaled",
    "fit": 2.6196,
    "Northwest": 61.67,
    "Southeast": 25,
    "Baltic": 13.33,

    It looks like its pulling it from the NW category, which is populated with overlapping channel-esque populations.

    I will add the data sheets below if anyone is curious, its not very well thought out but its something to do at least lol.

    I feel like Im missing something. I recall Irish people having at times elevated Iberian, but I never paid much attention to that and I am not Irish. I do have Spanish in my tree but its waaaaay back in time and I highly doubt it has any impact on my genetics, if any.

    1st without Iberian component:
     

    Code:
    Northwest:Belgian,0.1271867,0.1378863,0.0508694,0.0285197,0.038879,0.0112177,0.0042389,0.0034529,0.0074159,0.0110489,-0.0050521,0.0047014,-0.0127298,-0.0096131,0.0131448,0.0035701,-0.004404,0.00221,0.0022114,-0.0012784,0.0035491,0.0017494,-0.0014059,0.0102914,0.0011088
    Northwest:Irish,0.1334042,0.134875,0.0610876,0.0482532,0.0383388,0.0188992,0.003,0.0047738,0.0031318,0.002725,-0.00714,0.005606,-0.0143759,-0.0139278,0.0253478,0.0048208,-0.0110725,0.0022052,0.0007502,0.0013385,0.0051745,0.0012249,-0.0003563,0.0147667,0.0010665
    
    Northwest:English,0.1318551,0.137043,0.0617883,0.044013,0.0392299,0.0167481,0.0049845,0.0057448,0.0052637,0.0056781,-0.0047691,0.0056161,-0.0125892,-0.0103507,0.0206153,0.0035521,-0.0103689,0.004094,0.003685,0.0029619,0.0059369,0.0034036,-0.0032693,0.0137938,3.16e-05
    Northwest:Dutch,0.1267527,0.1313048,0.0610935,0.0461486,0.040469,0.0166244,0.0065435,0.0080802,0.003576,0.0003275,-0.0064447,0.0045873,-0.0087082,-0.0088422,0.0174443,0.005345,-0.0082143,0.0012669,0.0042698,0.0028138,0.0046909,0.0028672,0.0002678,0.0153541,-0.0004921
    
    
    Southeast:Greek,0.1181231,0.1434154,0.0131992,-0.0191288,0.0202087,-0.005206,0.0016581,-0.0003717,0.0006363,0.0135361,0.000433,0.0022146,-0.0031218,0.007661,-0.0169649,-0.0018488,0.0083735,0.0005772,0.0052094,-0.0036058,-0.0072165,0.0013808,0.0019583,-0.0008969,-0.0013772
    Southeast:Greek_Central_Anatolia,0.110029,0.1442053,-0.037209,-0.0592167,-0.0133357,-0.0200803,0.0031333,-0.0029997,-0.0196343,0.0115417,0.0053587,0.0049457,-0.006888,0.0050007,-0.0110387,0.001061,0.0096483,0.0024913,0.0044833,-0.0026263,0.002454,0.0046577,-0.0002877,-0.0003617,-0.0007187
    Southeast:Greek_Crete,0.1104083,0.144205,-0.0155877,-0.0486653,0.004821,-0.0173843,0.00329,-0.003692,-0.0032727,0.012635,0.0023277,0.0017483,-0.0005947,0.0042663,-0.0078263,0.0024307,0.0099963,0.0045187,0.0010053,-0.0016257,-0.0014143,-0.0002473,-0.0002053,-0.000241,-0.000439
    Southeast:Greek_Trabzon,0.1091438,0.1396917,-0.0537606,-0.06137,-0.0248593,-0.0181279,0.0073374,-0.0047948,-0.0387231,-0.0042318,0.0030133,0.0069606,-0.0133958,0.0084256,-0.007902,-0.0137156,0.0052008,-0.001295,-0.0005587,0.0025013,0.003591,0.0012779,-0.002013,-0.0029187,-0.0012241
    Southeast:Sicilian_East,0.1031997,0.1465747,-0.007291,-0.0411287,0.0178493,-0.0153393,-0.0019583,7.7e-05,0.0075673,0.0213217,0.0073073,0.0038967,-0.0061447,0.0031193,-0.0059263,-0.006497,-0.0028683,-0.00114,0.0044833,-0.003877,-4.13e-05,0.0026793,-0.0018897,0.0022893,0.000399
    Southeast:Sicilian_West,0.1001643,0.1455593,-0.0003773,-0.03553,0.019388,-0.0098543,-0.0006267,0.0005383,0.013362,0.0222937,0.00341,0.0030973,-0.00223,0.0018807,-0.002262,-0.003182,-0.0018687,-4.23e-05,-0.00088,-0.006128,0.000832,0.0008243,-0.0032043,-0.0034943,0.0002393
    Southeast:Albanian,0.1195142,0.1409893,0.0164047,-0.0150195,0.025646,-0.0069722,0.0053658,0.0039613,-0.0008862,0.0143053,0.0006495,0.0004997,-0.005897,0.0074547,-0.0218963,-0.004729,0.0064975,0.0015627,0.0084638,-0.0056277,-0.0034937,-0.000124,0.0023417,0.0018677,-0.0005388
    Southeast:Italian_Jew,0.0949283,0.1456271,-0.0186674,-0.0564927,0.0112941,-0.0245423,-0.003995,-0.002792,0.0128851,0.0191349,0.0045143,0.00021,0.0021557,-0.0028762,-0.0066097,-0.0012331,-0.0011995,-0.0010515,-0.0011187,-0.0035893,-0.0039059,-0.0015456,-0.000123,0.0023617,0.0028741
    Southeast:Italian_South,0.1078472,0.1459822,-0.0048082,-0.0390022,0.0117712,-0.0115742,-0.0001762,-0.002942,0.0014315,0.0193627,-0.001989,0.005133,-0.0037165,-0.0018232,-0.0059717,-0.0037785,0.0005218,0.0010768,0.0051222,-0.000344,-0.0034628,0.0008655,0.001972,0.000693,0.0015868
    Southeast:Maltese,0.0919124,0.1464901,-0.0024985,-0.0434031,0.0132714,-0.0178141,-0.0044064,-0.0009231,0.0110953,0.0205244,0.0061504,0.0009739,-0.0028989,-0.0007226,-0.0042581,0.0008784,-0.0004074,-0.0037688,-0.0004871,-0.0023606,-0.0061454,-0.0025968,0.0028192,0.0011899,0.002904
    
    
    Baltic:Latvian,0.1354494,0.122473,0.0887742,0.089471,0.043208,0.0340246,0.0125966,0.0140762,-0.002168,-0.0368842,-0.0035728,-0.0138178,0.0232208,0.031378,-0.010559,0.0040572,0.0027118,-0.0003802,0.0016088,0.0043022,-0.0027952,-0.0057128,0.0090708,-0.0093264,0.0026346
    Baltic:Swedish,0.1340007,0.1283722,0.0715329,0.0557909,0.0414202,0.0213225,0.006847,0.0089682,0.0046947,-0.0067261,-0.004451,0.001635,-0.0048315,-0.0036907,0.0150773,0.0039838,-0.0074379,0.002004,0.003851,0.0046385,0.0064205,0.0021357,0.0009244,0.0106969,-0.0002994
    
    Baltic:Belarusian,0.1322625,0.1236239,0.0750219,0.0695957,0.0402331,0.0265691,0.0107321,0.0133226,-0.0002727,-0.0246017,-0.0026957,-0.0092119,0.0193259,0.0272309,-0.0112647,-0.0038009,-0.0009647,0.0003717,0.0041397,-0.0010504,-0.0042342,-0.0046081,0.0077235,-0.0068601,0.0006946


    2nd with Iberian
     

    Code:
    Northwest:Belgian,0.1271867,0.1378863,0.0508694,0.0285197,0.038879,0.0112177,0.0042389,0.0034529,0.0074159,0.0110489,-0.0050521,0.0047014,-0.0127298,-0.0096131,0.0131448,0.0035701,-0.004404,0.00221,0.0022114,-0.0012784,0.0035491,0.0017494,-0.0014059,0.0102914,0.0011088
    Northwest:Irish,0.1334042,0.134875,0.0610876,0.0482532,0.0383388,0.0188992,0.003,0.0047738,0.0031318,0.002725,-0.00714,0.005606,-0.0143759,-0.0139278,0.0253478,0.0048208,-0.0110725,0.0022052,0.0007502,0.0013385,0.0051745,0.0012249,-0.0003563,0.0147667,0.0010665
    
    Northwest:English,0.1318551,0.137043,0.0617883,0.044013,0.0392299,0.0167481,0.0049845,0.0057448,0.0052637,0.0056781,-0.0047691,0.0056161,-0.0125892,-0.0103507,0.0206153,0.0035521,-0.0103689,0.004094,0.003685,0.0029619,0.0059369,0.0034036,-0.0032693,0.0137938,3.16e-05
    Northwest:Dutch,0.1267527,0.1313048,0.0610935,0.0461486,0.040469,0.0166244,0.0065435,0.0080802,0.003576,0.0003275,-0.0064447,0.0045873,-0.0087082,-0.0088422,0.0174443,0.005345,-0.0082143,0.0012669,0.0042698,0.0028138,0.0046909,0.0028672,0.0002678,0.0153541,-0.0004921
    
    
    Southeast:Greek,0.1181231,0.1434154,0.0131992,-0.0191288,0.0202087,-0.005206,0.0016581,-0.0003717,0.0006363,0.0135361,0.000433,0.0022146,-0.0031218,0.007661,-0.0169649,-0.0018488,0.0083735,0.0005772,0.0052094,-0.0036058,-0.0072165,0.0013808,0.0019583,-0.0008969,-0.0013772
    Southeast:Greek_Central_Anatolia,0.110029,0.1442053,-0.037209,-0.0592167,-0.0133357,-0.0200803,0.0031333,-0.0029997,-0.0196343,0.0115417,0.0053587,0.0049457,-0.006888,0.0050007,-0.0110387,0.001061,0.0096483,0.0024913,0.0044833,-0.0026263,0.002454,0.0046577,-0.0002877,-0.0003617,-0.0007187
    Southeast:Greek_Crete,0.1104083,0.144205,-0.0155877,-0.0486653,0.004821,-0.0173843,0.00329,-0.003692,-0.0032727,0.012635,0.0023277,0.0017483,-0.0005947,0.0042663,-0.0078263,0.0024307,0.0099963,0.0045187,0.0010053,-0.0016257,-0.0014143,-0.0002473,-0.0002053,-0.000241,-0.000439
    Southeast:Greek_Trabzon,0.1091438,0.1396917,-0.0537606,-0.06137,-0.0248593,-0.0181279,0.0073374,-0.0047948,-0.0387231,-0.0042318,0.0030133,0.0069606,-0.0133958,0.0084256,-0.007902,-0.0137156,0.0052008,-0.001295,-0.0005587,0.0025013,0.003591,0.0012779,-0.002013,-0.0029187,-0.0012241
    Southeast:Sicilian_East,0.1031997,0.1465747,-0.007291,-0.0411287,0.0178493,-0.0153393,-0.0019583,7.7e-05,0.0075673,0.0213217,0.0073073,0.0038967,-0.0061447,0.0031193,-0.0059263,-0.006497,-0.0028683,-0.00114,0.0044833,-0.003877,-4.13e-05,0.0026793,-0.0018897,0.0022893,0.000399
    Southeast:Sicilian_West,0.1001643,0.1455593,-0.0003773,-0.03553,0.019388,-0.0098543,-0.0006267,0.0005383,0.013362,0.0222937,0.00341,0.0030973,-0.00223,0.0018807,-0.002262,-0.003182,-0.0018687,-4.23e-05,-0.00088,-0.006128,0.000832,0.0008243,-0.0032043,-0.0034943,0.0002393
    Southeast:Albanian,0.1195142,0.1409893,0.0164047,-0.0150195,0.025646,-0.0069722,0.0053658,0.0039613,-0.0008862,0.0143053,0.0006495,0.0004997,-0.005897,0.0074547,-0.0218963,-0.004729,0.0064975,0.0015627,0.0084638,-0.0056277,-0.0034937,-0.000124,0.0023417,0.0018677,-0.0005388
    Southeast:Italian_Jew,0.0949283,0.1456271,-0.0186674,-0.0564927,0.0112941,-0.0245423,-0.003995,-0.002792,0.0128851,0.0191349,0.0045143,0.00021,0.0021557,-0.0028762,-0.0066097,-0.0012331,-0.0011995,-0.0010515,-0.0011187,-0.0035893,-0.0039059,-0.0015456,-0.000123,0.0023617,0.0028741
    Southeast:Italian_South,0.1078472,0.1459822,-0.0048082,-0.0390022,0.0117712,-0.0115742,-0.0001762,-0.002942,0.0014315,0.0193627,-0.001989,0.005133,-0.0037165,-0.0018232,-0.0059717,-0.0037785,0.0005218,0.0010768,0.0051222,-0.000344,-0.0034628,0.0008655,0.001972,0.000693,0.0015868
    Southeast:Maltese,0.0919124,0.1464901,-0.0024985,-0.0434031,0.0132714,-0.0178141,-0.0044064,-0.0009231,0.0110953,0.0205244,0.0061504,0.0009739,-0.0028989,-0.0007226,-0.0042581,0.0008784,-0.0004074,-0.0037688,-0.0004871,-0.0023606,-0.0061454,-0.0025968,0.0028192,0.0011899,0.002904
    Iberian:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon,0.1077523,0.1438667,0.0404773,-0.0021533,0.0438027,0.0018593,-0.0017233,0.004615,0.0284287,0.0292183,-0.0023277,0.007843,-0.012091,-0.012019,0.01226,-0.006541,-0.0067797,-0.0017313,-0.004525,-0.0022927,0.000291,-0.0009067,0.0013147,-0.0025703,-0.002754
    
    Baltic:Latvian,0.1354494,0.122473,0.0887742,0.089471,0.043208,0.0340246,0.0125966,0.0140762,-0.002168,-0.0368842,-0.0035728,-0.0138178,0.0232208,0.031378,-0.010559,0.0040572,0.0027118,-0.0003802,0.0016088,0.0043022,-0.0027952,-0.0057128,0.0090708,-0.0093264,0.0026346
    Baltic:Swedish,0.1340007,0.1283722,0.0715329,0.0557909,0.0414202,0.0213225,0.006847,0.0089682,0.0046947,-0.0067261,-0.004451,0.001635,-0.0048315,-0.0036907,0.0150773,0.0039838,-0.0074379,0.002004,0.003851,0.0046385,0.0064205,0.0021357,0.0009244,0.0106969,-0.0002994
    
    Baltic:Belarusian,0.1322625,0.1236239,0.0750219,0.0695957,0.0402331,0.0265691,0.0107321,0.0133226,-0.0002727,-0.0246017,-0.0026957,-0.0092119,0.0193259,0.0272309,-0.0112647,-0.0038009,-0.0009647,0.0003717,0.0041397,-0.0010504,-0.0042342,-0.0046081,0.0077235,-0.0068601,0.0006946
    
    
    Iberian:Portuguese,0.1072213,0.1440698,0.0360527,-0.0049311,0.0435568,-0.0050758,-0.0039167,0.0030151,0.0254836,0.0298017,-0.0009959,0.0085925,-0.0144102,-0.0117989,0.0143593,-4.42e-05,0.0006173,-0.0007265,-0.0059916,0.0015091,0.0014307,-0.0018877,0.0016269,-0.0005382,-0.0003272
    distance%=4.6465"
    Barcin_N,47.2
    Yamnaya_Samara,41.4
    WHG,10.6
    Ethiopia_4500BP,0.8

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    Version 1

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    1000 cycles
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    Fit: 1.7451

    Northwest: 90.4
    Baltic: 5,
    Southeast: 4.6,

    closestDistances
    Northwest:English: 1.823704
    Northwest.Dutch: 2.414544
    Northwest:Irish: 2.522091
    Baltic:Swedish: 3.249547



    Version 2

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    Fit 1.6259

    Northwest": 78.8
    Baltic": 11.2
    Iberian: 9.4
    Southeast: 0.6

    closestDistances
    Northwest:English: 1.823704
    Northwest.Dutch: 2.414544
    Northwest:Irish: 2.522091
    Baltic:Swedish: 3.249547
    Iberian:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon: 6.726965




    First one looks better in my case.
    Last edited by JMcB; 08-02-2019 at 05:09 PM.
    Paper Trail: 42.25% English, 31.25% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA(c): 86.3% British Isles (48.6% English, 37.7% Scottish & Irish), 7.8% NW Germanic, 5.9% Europe South (Aegean 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%)
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    "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
    Northwest:Belgian Northwest:English Northwest:Irish
    2.315099 2.461122 2.776520
    Northwest:Dutch Baltic:Swedish Southeast:Albanian
    3.068600 4.464463 8.979179
    Southeast:Greek Baltic:Belarusian
    9.200522 9.463700

    "distance%=1.9761"

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    Northwest,95.4
    Southeast,4.6

    2nd

    "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
    Northwest:Belgian Northwest:English
    2.315099 2.461122
    Northwest:Irish Northwest:Dutch
    2.776520 3.068600
    Baltic:Swedish Iberian:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    4.464463 6.156232
    Iberian:Portuguese Southeast:Albanian
    6.463878 8.979179

    [1] "distance%=1.8975"

    Trelvern_scaled

    Northwest,85.6
    Iberian,12.2
    Southeast,2.2


    slightly different (less germanic : lack of baltic,very "atlantic" )
    but i'm not a good horse (not mixed)
    Last edited by Trelvern; 08-02-2019 at 06:02 PM.

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    So why the Iberian pull? It happens in some of the custom calcs that have a SW category as well. Is there some Celtic similarities between English and Iberian?
    distance%=4.6465"
    Barcin_N,47.2
    Yamnaya_Samara,41.4
    WHG,10.6
    Ethiopia_4500BP,0.8

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    [1] "distance%=1.4214"


    ph2ter


    Baltic,76.8
    Southeast,16
    Northwest,7.2


    ver2
    [1] "distance%=1.4663"


    ph2ter


    Baltic,73.2
    Southeast,13.4
    Northwest,10
    Iberian,3.4





    Baltic:Swedish
    0.4082630
    Baltic:Belarusian
    0.4374265
    Northwestutch
    0.4610051
    Northwest:English
    0.5120598
    Northwest:Belgian
    0.5244150
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by digital_noise View Post
    So why the Iberian pull? It happens in some of the custom calcs that have a SW category as well. Is there some Celtic similarities between English and Iberian?
    What are your closest single distances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trelvern View Post
    What are your closest single distances?
    Without Iberian
    closestDistances": [
    "Northwest:Belgian: 3.201670",
    "Northwest:English: 4.582454",
    "Northwestutch: 4.679717",
    "Northwest:Irish: 5.232965",
    "Baltic:Swedish: 5.903375",
    "Southeast:Albanian: 6.680416",
    "Southeast:Greek: 7.085325",
    "Southeast:Sicilian_West: 8.703215",
    "Baltic:Belarusian: 8.942787",
    "Southeast:Italian_South: 9.233133",
    "Southeast:Sicilian_East: 9.540364",
    "Southeast:Maltese: 10.033475",
    "Southeast:Greek_Crete: 11.052527",
    "Baltic:Latvian: 11.773821",
    "Southeast:Italian_Jew: 11.825784",
    "Southeast:Greek_Central_Anatolia: 13.880386",
    "Southeast:Greek_Trabzon: 15.935828"

    With Iberian
    "closestDistances": [
    "Northwest:Belgian: 3.201670",
    "Northwest:English: 4.582454",
    "Northwestutch: 4.679717",
    "Iberian:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon: 5.103156",
    "Northwest:Irish: 5.232965",
    "Iberianortuguese: 5.740908",
    "Baltic:Swedish: 5.903375",
    "Southeast:Albanian: 6.680416",
    "Southeast:Greek: 7.085325",
    "Southeast:Sicilian_West: 8.703215",
    "Baltic:Belarusian: 8.942787",
    "Southeast:Italian_South: 9.233133",
    "Southeast:Sicilian_East: 9.540364",
    "Southeast:Maltese: 10.033475",
    "Southeast:Greek_Crete: 11.052527",
    "Baltic:Latvian: 11.773821",
    "Southeast:Italian_Jew: 11.825784",
    "Southeast:Greek_Central_Anatolia: 13.880386",
    "Southeast:Greek_Trabzon: 15.935828"
    distance%=4.6465"
    Barcin_N,47.2
    Yamnaya_Samara,41.4
    WHG,10.6
    Ethiopia_4500BP,0.8

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    Quote Originally Posted by digital_noise View Post
    Without Iberian
    closestDistances": [
    "Northwest:Belgian: 3.201670",
    "Northwest:English: 4.582454",
    "Northwestutch: 4.679717",
    "Northwest:Irish: 5.232965",
    "Baltic:Swedish: 5.903375",
    "Southeast:Albanian: 6.680416",
    "Southeast:Greek: 7.085325",
    "Southeast:Sicilian_West: 8.703215",
    "Baltic:Belarusian: 8.942787",
    "Southeast:Italian_South: 9.233133",
    "Southeast:Sicilian_East: 9.540364",
    "Southeast:Maltese: 10.033475",
    "Southeast:Greek_Crete: 11.052527",
    "Baltic:Latvian: 11.773821",
    "Southeast:Italian_Jew: 11.825784",
    "Southeast:Greek_Central_Anatolia: 13.880386",
    "Southeast:Greek_Trabzon: 15.935828"

    With Iberian
    "closestDistances": [
    "Northwest:Belgian: 3.201670",
    "Northwest:English: 4.582454",
    "Northwestutch: 4.679717",
    "Iberian:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon: 5.103156",
    "Northwest:Irish: 5.232965",
    "Iberianortuguese: 5.740908",
    "Baltic:Swedish: 5.903375",
    "Southeast:Albanian: 6.680416",
    "Southeast:Greek: 7.085325",
    "Southeast:Sicilian_West: 8.703215",
    "Baltic:Belarusian: 8.942787",
    "Southeast:Italian_South: 9.233133",
    "Southeast:Sicilian_East: 9.540364",
    "Southeast:Maltese: 10.033475",
    "Southeast:Greek_Crete: 11.052527",
    "Baltic:Latvian: 11.773821",
    "Southeast:Italian_Jew: 11.825784",
    "Southeast:Greek_Central_Anatolia: 13.880386",
    "Southeast:Greek_Trabzon: 15.935828"

    you have a strongest pull to Iberia than me

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    You know what’s odd, is Nino90, who is 37% Tuscan gets zero Italian but a substantial Iberian across many of these calculators. MyHeritage, whom generally gets a bad rep has me at 14% Italian 15% South Italian/Greek. No other mainstream testing company shows this. The DnaLands, geneplaza and G25 do however. Odd.
    distance%=4.6465"
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    Yamnaya_Samara,41.4
    WHG,10.6
    Ethiopia_4500BP,0.8

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    Without


    "sample": "Test1:Tim_G_scaled",
    "fit": 1.7242,
    "Northwest": 87.2,
    "Baltic": 12.8,
    "Southeast": 0,
    "closestDistances": [
    "Northwest:Irish: 1.815869",
    "Northwest:English: 1.945288",
    "Northwest:Dutch: 2.198785",
    "Baltic:Swedish: 2.763598",
    "Baltic:Belarusian: 8.153849",
    "Baltic:Latvian: 10.147287",


    "sample": "Test1:Tim_G_father_scaled",
    "fit": 2.2262,
    "Northwest": 94.4,
    "Baltic": 5.4,
    "Southeast": 0.2,
    "closestDistances": [
    "Northwest:English: 2.232805",
    "Northwest:Irish: 2.536296",
    "Northwest:Dutch: 2.797892",
    "Baltic:Swedish: 3.331815",
    "Northwest:Belgian: 3.666343",
    "Baltic:Belarusian: 8.371458",
    "Southeast:Albanian: 10.322717",


    With

    "sample": "Test1:Tim_G_scaled",
    "fit": 1.7211,
    "Northwest": 86.6,
    "Baltic": 12.8,
    "Iberian": 0.6,
    "Southeast": 0,
    "closestDistances": [
    "Northwest:Irish: 1.815869",
    "Northwest:English: 1.945288",
    "Northwest:Dutch: 2.198785",
    "Baltic:Swedish: 2.763598",
    "Iberian:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon: 7.906584",
    "Baltic:Belarusian: 8.153849"


    "sample": "Test1:Tim_G_father_scaled",
    "fit": 2.2252,
    "Northwest": 92.6,
    "Baltic": 6.6,
    "Iberian": 0.8,
    "Southeast": 0,
    "closestDistances": [
    "Northwest:English: 2.232805",
    "Northwest:Irish: 2.536296",
    "Northwest:Dutch: 2.797892",
    "Baltic:Swedish: 3.331815",
    "Iberian:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon: 7.631314",
    "Iberian:Portuguese: 8.123439",
    "Baltic:Belarusian: 8.371458",
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