Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 31

Thread: How do you trace your ancestry back further with this situation?

  1. #11
    Gold Class Member
    Posts
    3,228
    Sex
    Location
    Calne,England
    Ethnicity
    British and Irish
    Nationality
    Great Britain
    mtDNA (M)
    H67
    Y-DNA (P)
    E-Y45878

    United Kingdom Scotland England Ireland
    I am E-Y45878 at Yfull .There is one other person with that - his earliest known paternal ancestor according to Big Y at FTDNA Paternal: John Carthew d. 1590 St Columb Major, Cornwall

    The other Big Y match

    Earliest Known Ancestors Paternal: Robert Fuge, b.1726 d.1821 Poundstock, Cornwall
    Please support Mental health research and world community grid

    Hidden Content
    Hidden Content
    Hidden Content
    Hidden Content

  2. #12
    Gold Class Member
    Posts
    1,656
    Sex
    Location
    Chicago, Illinois
    Ethnicity
    mixed European
    Nationality
    USA
    mtDNA (M)
    K2b2
    Y-DNA (P)
    Dad: R1b/L21/DF63

    Yeah, that's very interesting. Have you compared notes with the BigY match? How close a match are you?

  3. #13
    Gold Class Member
    Posts
    3,228
    Sex
    Location
    Calne,England
    Ethnicity
    British and Irish
    Nationality
    Great Britain
    mtDNA (M)
    H67
    Y-DNA (P)
    E-Y45878

    United Kingdom Scotland England Ireland
    Neither of the Big Y matches are Family finder matches to me . This either suggests the link is very distant or they haven't done FF.

    I have a 111 marker GD 10 match with a CARTHEW He is not a FF match with me .
    email FTDNA Tip note Y-DNA111 FF
    William Carthew, Illogan, 1684

    According to Wikipedia: Illogan (pronounced illuggan, Cornish: Egloshalow[1]) is a village and civil parish in west Cornwall, England, UK, two miles (3 km) northwest of Redruth.[2]
    Please support Mental health research and world community grid

    Hidden Content
    Hidden Content
    Hidden Content
    Hidden Content

  4. #14
    Junior Member
    Posts
    3
    Sex
    Location
    India

    If you want to know your ancestor, by DNA test, then you can find it. The test may suggest that you have combined the DNA of both female and male. But you can actually come to know from the test of both.

  5. #15
    Registered Users
    Posts
    1,066
    Sex
    Location
    Canada
    Nationality
    Canadian
    mtDNA (P)
    J1c3
    Y-DNA (P)
    I-A14097

    Canada Netherlands United Kingdom Ireland France Cornwall
    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    Neither of the Big Y matches are Family finder matches to me . This either suggests the link is very distant or they haven't done FF.

    I have a 111 marker GD 10 match with a CARTHEW He is not a FF match with me .
    email FTDNA Tip note Y-DNA111 FF
    William Carthew, Illogan, 1684

    According to Wikipedia: Illogan (pronounced illuggan, Cornish: Egloshalow[1]) is a village and civil parish in west Cornwall, England, UK, two miles (3 km) northwest of Redruth.[2]
    A match should say FF somewhere to show that they've done FamilyFinder. How distant are your Big Y matches?

  6. #16
    Gold Class Member
    Posts
    3,228
    Sex
    Location
    Calne,England
    Ethnicity
    British and Irish
    Nationality
    Great Britain
    mtDNA (M)
    H67
    Y-DNA (P)
    E-Y45878

    United Kingdom Scotland England Ireland
    I can't see anywhere whether they've done FF or not. As for distance ,I've no idea . C&F are both E-BY178965 at FTDNA while I'm E-BY5234. At Yfull C& I are the only E-Y45878. The TMRCA 1100 (1800 to 650) . 1100 places it pre Norman conquest. 1800 places it in Roman Britain era. 650 places it in the middle ages .
    Please support Mental health research and world community grid

    Hidden Content
    Hidden Content
    Hidden Content
    Hidden Content

  7. #17
    Registered Users
    Posts
    137
    Sex
    Location
    Northern England
    Ethnicity
    English
    Nationality
    English
    mtDNA (M)
    H1c3
    Y-DNA (P)
    H2 P96

    England
    If he was married in Liverpool 1810, there will probally be records, and entries in the census's if they were living in Britain.

    Britain and Ireland were part of a United Kingdom,of Great Britain and Ireland from 1801, untill 1922.

    Try looking under similar sounding names such as Gaddy etc.

    The later census entries, and many records only wrote down what they heard.

    As you refer to him being a 'Gentleman' this is a term applied to Gentry and Landowner,s and some would often marry in private chapels etc, and the records would not be so public. Also Not all parish records are, or were allowed to be, recorded online, as some even today are kept in Parish Church chests etc.
    Being Catholic they will most certainly be records

    Liverpool was a large Emigrant Port, mainly for the Empire and America, and a stopping off point for Immigrants from Ireland and other countries, so they could well of left the country from there.

    It seems difficult but records of the family, or distant family will be around somewhere.

    DNA will soon be the way forward for family historians, but at the moment its still developing.

    good luck
    Last edited by Paul333; 08-15-2019 at 04:32 PM.

  8. #18
    Gold Class Member
    Posts
    3,228
    Sex
    Location
    Calne,England
    Ethnicity
    British and Irish
    Nationality
    Great Britain
    mtDNA (M)
    H67
    Y-DNA (P)
    E-Y45878

    United Kingdom Scotland England Ireland
    I've used the soundex etc options to search Lancashire and drawn a blank .
    Please support Mental health research and world community grid

    Hidden Content
    Hidden Content
    Hidden Content
    Hidden Content

  9. #19
    Gold Class Member
    Posts
    3,228
    Sex
    Location
    Calne,England
    Ethnicity
    British and Irish
    Nationality
    Great Britain
    mtDNA (M)
    H67
    Y-DNA (P)
    E-Y45878

    United Kingdom Scotland England Ireland
    Baptisms of William Gatty's children


    All bapt Liverpool St Mary




    5 Jun 1810 was bapt Thomas,son of William and Ann Gatty
    (born 5th inst) spons John Shaw proxy for Edwd Davis and
    Catherine Murray

    25 May 1811 was bapt William,son of William and Ann Gatty
    (born 21st inst) Spons James Davis and Margt Duckworth


    20 Jan 1813
    20th was bapt Edward,son of William and Ann Gatty ,(next bit in brackets hard to read but starts with born then 6th Jan.)
    Spons(Thomas Glover and Cath Byrneby proxy) for Peter Lonsdale and
    Mgt Taylor by me Jno(?) Rigby
    Please support Mental health research and world community grid

    Hidden Content
    Hidden Content
    Hidden Content
    Hidden Content

  10. #20
    Registered Users
    Posts
    137
    Sex
    Location
    Northern England
    Ethnicity
    English
    Nationality
    English
    mtDNA (M)
    H1c3
    Y-DNA (P)
    H2 P96

    England
    There was a Cholera outbreak/epidemic in Britain, reaching Liverpool, around 1832, Lots of families were effected and it caused many deaths, and even riots. It could be another reason to look into.

Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 16
    Last Post: 10-15-2018, 01:10 PM
  2. How far back does Gedmatch: Dodecad ancestry go?
    By Psyche in forum Autosomal (auDNA)
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 04-27-2018, 10:56 PM
  3. Almost at a point of giving up on using dna to trace ancestry
    By firemonkey in forum Autosomal (auDNA)
    Replies: 27
    Last Post: 02-04-2018, 08:25 PM
  4. How far back have you traced ALL of your ancestry
    By Wing Genealogist in forum Genealogy
    Replies: 75
    Last Post: 07-27-2017, 02:53 AM
  5. Progress with the FTDNA/GEDmatch situation?
    By C J Wyatt III in forum Open-Source Projects
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 04-08-2016, 08:06 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •