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Thread: Did Greek Orthodox Christians fleeing Arab rule spread Levantine DNA to SE Europe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    Also, the Merchant Republics of Genoa, Venice and Pisa had warehouses and merchants living between Alexandria and Aleppo for many many centuries prior to and after the crusader period.................hundreds of years of dropping seeds in an area will make a mark
    This is a historic reality and an interesting genetic question. What I can tell you is that I have several late 19th/early 20th century ancestors with Italian first names, and Greek last names. They also found a Crusader era marble casket on Fourni. The inscription was for a Venetian prince. I have some information on it I can share, although I will have to find it first.

    Can this be teased out genetically, at this point? Or do we see evidence of continued Greek/Italian gene exchange in the range of variation we find in each general region?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Palermo. I notice the western part of Palermo province -- towns like Cinisi, Partinico, Balestrate -- a lot of the results come up modeled as 90% South Italian, 10% Moroccan/Tunisian/Algerian, while the eastern part of Palermo province is closer to Messina, Calabria, or Crete/Dodecanese with higher Caucasus.

    What were the ones you posted?
    It'd be my second guess, though it was my first thought. Not sure why I eventually chose for Calabria but it could be due to low North African scores. It was my uncle's k13 I shared and I wanted to see what you'd say without any bias.

    Here's his G25

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    Mc Donald:
    Most likely fit is 62.4% (+- 9.5%) Europe (various subcontinents)
    and 37.6% (+- 9.5%) Mideast (various subcontinents)
    Dodecad World9:
    1 50% S_Italian_Sicilian +50% Dutch @ 1.083
    2 50% German +50% S_Italian @ 1.126
    3 50% Dutch +50% S_Italian @ 1.148

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimanto View Post
    It'd be my second guess, though it was my first thought. Not sure why I eventually chose for Calabria but it could be due to low North African scores. It was my uncle's k13 I shared and I wanted to see what you'd say without any bias.

    Here's his G25

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    Try this one:

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 25.79
    2 West_Med 22.03
    3 Atlantic 14.71
    4 West_Asian 14.2
    5 North_Sea 10.6
    6 Red_Sea 5.37
    7 Eastern_Euro 3.99
    8 Baltic 2.71
    9 Southeast_Asian 0.32
    10 Northeast_African 0.27

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 East_Sicilian 6.15
    2 Central_Greek 6.28
    3 West_Sicilian 6.4
    4 Italian_Abruzzo 6.42
    5 South_Italian 6.49
    6 Tuscan 8.81
    7 Ashkenazi 8.96
    8 Italian_Jewish 9.49
    9 Greek 10.13
    10 Greek_Thessaly 10.43
    11 Sephardic_Jewish 10.94
    12 Algerian_Jewish 10.99
    13 North_Italian 14.71
    14 Tunisian_Jewish 15.39
    15 Libyan_Jewish 16.46
    16 Bulgarian 17.4
    17 Cyprian 17.46
    18 Romanian 19.24
    19 Turkish 21.24
    20 Spanish_Extremadura 21.41

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 85% Central_Greek + 15% Sardinian @ 3.86
    2 86.1% East_Sicilian + 13.9% Sardinian @ 4.16
    3 54.6% North_Italian + 45.4% Cyprian @ 4.17
    4 85.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 14.8% Sardinian @ 4.21
    5 60.1% Cyprian + 39.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.32
    6 69% Tuscan + 31% Cyprian @ 4.48
    7 55.9% Cyprian + 44.1% Portuguese @ 4.56
    8 56.7% Cyprian + 43.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.58
    9 55.4% Cyprian + 44.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.76
    10 76.1% South_Italian + 23.9% North_Italian @ 4.79
    11 85.4% South_Italian + 14.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.81
    12 62.9% South_Italian + 37.1% Tuscan @ 4.81
    13 83.5% South_Italian + 16.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.82
    14 86.6% South_Italian + 13.4% Sardinian @ 4.83
    15 82.9% South_Italian + 17.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.85
    16 83.2% South_Italian + 16.8% Portuguese @ 4.85
    17 57.8% Cyprian + 42.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.94
    18 84.8% South_Italian + 15.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.97
    19 83.6% South_Italian + 16.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.02
    20 86.7% South_Italian + 13.3% Southwest_French @ 5.05

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