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    Someone who shares my father's matrilineal ancestor has tested positive for this haplogroup (French descent). Where is it from? Its modern-day distribution seems to be in Western Europe, and per Eupedia, actress Meryl Streep also tested positive for K1b2b. Feel free to post if you or other relatives belong to K1b2b.
    MDKA: Robert Boulay, b. 1631, Réveillon, Orne, France
    Y-DNA: R1b-U152 > L2 > Z367 > Z34 > Z33 > BY164497> BY3604

    Maternal Y-DNA: J2a-M67 > Z1847 > Y4036 > Z467 > Z447> L210

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    Nowhere in particular, but Europe. http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_..._sequences.htm

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    I have recorded the following ancient samples:
    Vikings Russia_Gnezdovo 77-241 Gnezdovo Russia VK272 10-11th AD K1b2b,
    Early Medieval rural Denmark Nordby Jutland LP164mt K1b2b,
    Late Medieval England St. Mary Graces London LG15mt K1b2b,
    Late Medieval England St. Mary Spital London LM07mt 1400-1539 AD K1b2b

    The oldest K1b2 samples are Mesolithic:
    Balcan Meso-Ene transition Lepenski Vir Lepe28 c. 5900 BC K1b2,
    Kunda Donkalnis5 Lithuania c. 6000 BC K1b2

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    Thanks for the ancient DNA samples!!! So it seems that in the Mesolithic period, K1b2b and its ancestor were located in Eastern Europe. Not sure if it was there or not at an earlier time.
    MDKA: Robert Boulay, b. 1631, Réveillon, Orne, France
    Y-DNA: R1b-U152 > L2 > Z367 > Z34 > Z33 > BY164497> BY3604

    Maternal Y-DNA: J2a-M67 > Z1847 > Y4036 > Z467 > Z447> L210

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    K1b haplogroups in general are believed to have moved into Europe with the early farmers from the Near East.

    According to Eupedia, K1b2b is broadly found in western continental Europe. I'm in the K mtDNA project at FTDNA, and the matrilineal ancestors, assuming correct, are not all that helpful, ranging from Wales and Scotland to the Ukraine, and Sweden to Spain. It's not an especially common group. (Most Ks that are not K1a are not.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina View Post
    I have recorded the following ancient samples:
    Vikings Russia_Gnezdovo 77-241 Gnezdovo Russia VK272 10-11th AD K1b2b,
    Early Medieval rural Denmark Nordby Jutland LP164mt K1b2b,
    Late Medieval England St. Mary Graces London LG15mt K1b2b,
    Late Medieval England St. Mary Spital London LM07mt 1400-1539 AD K1b2b

    The oldest K1b2 samples are Mesolithic:
    Balcan Meso-Ene transition Lepenski Vir Lepe28 c. 5900 BC K1b2,
    Kunda Donkalnis5 Lithuania c. 6000 BC K1b2
    Two another ancient sample K1b2b, and they are the oldest :
    Alt-2 and Alt-3 Germany Corded-Ware (2570-2458 BC)
    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/366/6466/731
    Y haplogroup: R1b: L21 --> DF13 --> BY145002
    The oldest L21 known are I2457 et I2565 from Stonehenge (Beaker Culture, 2400-1900 BC)

    MTDNA: U4c1
    The oldest U4c1 known are "poz224", Yamnaya culture (2882-2698 BC), and 2 Bell-Beaker in Germany (Karsdorf, 2314-2042 BC)

    Paternal MTDNA: K1b2b
    The oldest K1b2 are Eastern European Mesolithic: Kunda Donkalnis5 (Lithuania), 6000 BC and Meso-Ene Lepenski Vir Lepe28 in Serbia, 5900 BC.
    The oldest K1b2b is Alt-3, Corded-Ware Germany (2500 BC)

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