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    Paternal Granmother's Brother came back as being E-M96

    So basically I just tested the sole surviving brother of my paternal grandmother, he is 94 years old and has dementia. Fortunately, the DNA was captured on the first attempt and now I have his 23andme results. Anyhow, as the title says, his paternal haplogroup came back as E-M96; given that his version of 23andme is V5, I wonder if this is an artifact of the new chip, or if he is a legit E-M96(xE-P147, xE-M75). Any advice? Per the scientific details page of 23andme's y-dna haplogroup it makes it seem like they do test for E-P147 and E-M75, yet I do not know if the tree is version specific (i.e., V5) or if it is generic.

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    YDNA E-Y31991>PF4428>Y134097>Y134104>Y168273>FT17866 (TMRCA ~1100AD) - Domingos Rodrigues, b. circa 1690 Hidden Content , Viana do Castelo, Portugal - Stonemason, miller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruderico View Post
    Have you tried https://ytree.morleydna.com/ yet?
    I'll try it as soon as I get home and get my hands on his raw data. Thanks for the tip.

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    You might want to get him a FTDNA Family Finder test or Y-37 if you can spend a bit more, currently on sale for the next day or two.

    That would get a sample on file at FTDNA if you ever needed to do more detailed Y-DNA testing.

    The FTDNA sampling is usually easier for a person in his state, because it uses cheek swabs rather than spitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruderico View Post
    Have you tried https://ytree.morleydna.com/ yet?
    Here are the results:

     
    A100-,A150-,A210-,A260-,A286-,A3-,A421-,A9-,BY126-,BY151-,BY159-,BY184-,BY352+,BY451-,CLFY12861-,CLFY2971-,CLFY3449+,CLFY7251-,CLFY7476-,CTS1019-,CTS10349+,CTS10349-,CTS10729-,CTS1078-,CTS10814-,CTS11342-,CTS11468+,CTS11468-,CTS11577-,CTS11962-,CTS12-,CTS1230-,CTS1243-,CTS1257-,CTS1264-,CTS1382-,CTS155-,CTS16-,CTS1858-,CTS1966-,CTS2022-,CTS2100-,CTS2335-,CTS241-,CTS2457-,CTS2457.1-,CTS2457.2-,CTS2514-,CTS2734-,CTS2873-,CTS300-,CTS3226-,CTS3529+,CTS3745-,CTS3818-,CTS4075+,CTS4075+,CTS4075-,CTS4231-,CTS4415-,CTS4437+,CTS4922+,CTS5488-,CTS5551-,CTS5854-,CTS5914-,CTS5981-,CTS6048+,CTS623+,CTS623-,CTS6280-,CTS6554-,CTS7556-,CTS7734-,CTS7976-,CTS8627-,CTS8995-,CTS9018+,CTS9018-,DF13-,DF17-,DF63-,F100-,F1100-,F1120-,F1150-,F1193-,F1204-,F1265-,F1295-,F1319-,F1329-,F134-,F1365+,F3393-,F36-,F4320-,F446-,F450-,F632-,F719-,F879-,F91-,F996-,FA1341-,FB1464+,FB941+,FE2801-,FGC1109-,FGC11144-,FGC11203-,FGC11555-,FGC1160-,FGC11660-,FGC12405-,FGC12993-,FGC13494-,FGC1566-,FGC1698-,FGC17449-,FGC1774-,FGC18564-,FGC188+,FGC1897+,FGC19462+,FGC20064-,FGC20560-,FGC22501-,FGC22538-,FGC22963-,FGC31715-,FGC3213-,FGC37+,FGC3754-,FGC3763-,FGC3872-,FGC4077-,FGC42+,FGC4620-,FGC4888-,FGC49+,FGC5496-,FGC5628-,FGC63-,FGC69-,FGC7535-,FGC7892-,FGC8512-,FGC8628-,FGC9807-,FL299-,H:14313115(C|T)-,IMS-JST003305-,K193-,K:14004634(A|G)-,K:14251166(G|A)-,K:14363549(G|T)-,K:15591446(C|T)-,K:15591446(C|T)-,K:15591446(C|T)-,K:17444848(G|A)-,K:21473656(G|A)-,K:2745262(C|A)-,K:6621096(T|C)-,K:7046288(A|G)-,K:7192612(T|A)-,K:8311520(A|T)-,K:8418520(T|C)-,L1029-,L1085-,L1096-,L1101+,L1248-,L1263-,L1308-,L1388-,L1392-,L14-,L1425+,L162-,L199-,L208-,L21-,L212-,L254-,L258-,L281-,L295+,L320-,L321-,L35-,L443-,L455-,L484-,L517-,L527-,L529-,L529.1-,L529.2-,L56-,L573-,L644-,L645-,L655-,L675-,L699-,L720-,L744-,L784-,L80-,L816-,L857-,L93-,M1109-,M12-,M1203-,M12111-,M12132-,M124-,M124-,M124-,M124-,M1264-,M1313-,M1470-,M1522-,M1546-,M16-,M16-,M1667-,M181-,M200-,M200-,M227-,M227-,M227-,M2308-,M240-,M267-,M2718-,M2745-,M2783-,M2834-,M2856-,M3372-,M3636-,M3658-,M3690-,M387-,M387-,M4266-,M428-,M428-,M428-,M428-,M461-,M4747-,M4793-,M4827-,M4859-,M51-,M529-,M533-,M5420+,M5475+,M5524-,M5549-,M5571+,M64-,M64.1-,M64.2-,M68-,M68-,M682-,M6886-,MEH2-,MEH2-,P102+,P102+,P102+,P102+,P116-,P116-,P126-,P127-,P173+,P196-,P221-,P229-,P257-,P260-,P260-,P280-,P292-,P298-,P304-,P321-,P324-,P324-,P34_3-,P58-,P6-,P6-,P72-,P72-,P72-,P72-,PAGES00002-,PAGES00008-,PAGES00021-,PAGES00032-,PAGES00042-,PAGES00044-,PAGES00053-,PAGES00071-,PF1395-,PF1558+,PF1697+,PF1792-,PF1837-,PF2017-,PF2137-,PF2284-,PF2622-,PF2668-,PF27-,PF2950-,PF3149-,PF3233-,PF3237-,PF3362-,PF3526-,PF3558+,PF3664-,PF3706-,PF3720+,PF3858-,PF3862-,PF3892-,PF4646-,PF4698-,PF4782-,PF4811-,PF4832-,PF4845-,PF4888-,PF4988-,PF5087-,PF5116-,PF5118-,PF5371-,PF5670-,PF5862-,PF5893-,PF6019-,PF6068-,PF6093+,PF6093-,PF6127+,PF6127-,PF6234-,PF6249-,PF6271-,PF6419-,PF6452-,PF6466-,PF6478-,PF6484-,PF6492-,PF6520-,PF6543-,PF6584-,PF7258-,PF7406-,PF7589-,PF:13963821(T|C)+,PF:14136291(A|G)+,PF:14432928(A |G)+,PF:16751825(A|G)+,PF:17013730(A|G)+,PF:181171 93(T|C)+,PF:21843090(G|C)+,Page65.1-,S1157-,S1159-,S120-,S130-,S145-,S15526-,S16196-,S1743-,S18765-,S1938-,S206-,S22865-,S23612-,S244+,S246-,S257-,S263-,S265-,S271-,S27175-,S27194+,S27216-,S27370+,S274-,S27445+,S27447-,S27531+,S27568+,S27598-,S27631-,S27643+,S27683-,S27696+,S27699-,S27769+,S280-,S299-,S324-,S335-,S380-,S384-,S388-,S439-,S4554-,S47+,S483-,S497-,S521-,S522-,S5488-,S5520-,S5556-,S6365-,S7402-,S7474+,S7655-,S8235+,S9403-,SK1106-,SK1151-,SK1254-,SK1662-,SRY10831+,SRY10831.1+,SRY10831.2-,U181-,U6-,V100-,V169-,V23-,V231-,V28-,V42-,V57-,V68+,V82-,Y11277-,Y1150-,Y2016-,Y2225+,Y2250-,Y2905-,Y2990-,Y3302-,Y3455-,Y3517-,Y4010-,Y4272-,Y4332-,Y4752-,Y4925-,Y5568-,Y5585-,Y57-,Y6885-,Y6996-,Y7060-,Y7152-,Y7214-,Y8394-,Y8712-,Y8945-,YFS026499-,YP414-,YSC0000047-,YSC0000054-,YSC0000131-,YSC0000167-,YSC0000191-,YSC0000194-,YSC0000227+,YSC0000234-,YSC0001299-,Z11-,Z1147-,Z12222-,Z12480+,Z12485-,Z12522-,Z12530-,Z12535-,Z12640-,Z1296-,Z1298-,Z13450-,Z13911-,Z13966-,Z141-,Z1426-,Z14266-,Z14405-,Z146-,Z14686-,Z147-,Z14979-,Z150-,Z16329-,Z16403-,Z16521-,Z16684-,Z167-,Z16713-,Z16775-,Z17028-,Z17627-,Z17685-,Z17699-,Z17815-,Z17819-,Z18081-,Z1846-,Z1853-,Z1865-,Z18886-,Z19-,Z1919-,Z1936-,Z19639-,Z2058-,Z2103-,Z2106-,Z2115-,Z2118-,Z2124-,Z23193-,Z23269-,Z2329-,Z23769-,Z2381-,Z23858-,Z24048-,Z246-,Z2541-,Z25907-,Z2638-,Z2649+,Z272-,Z2845-,Z2953-,Z30-,Z304-,Z30583-,Z306-,Z329-,Z331-,Z36-,Z381-,Z382-,Z4367-,Z4842-,Z49-,Z5-,Z55-,Z58+,Z5860-,Z5863-,Z5870-,Z5873-,Z5887-,Z59-,Z5985-,Z5986-,Z5993-,Z6000-,Z6013-,Z6014-,Z6017-,Z61-,Z639-,Z6552-,Z6642-,Z739-,Z741-,Z7941-,Z7944-,Z808-,Z810-,Z8127-,Z8143+,Z827-,Z843-,Z8440-,Z859-,Z971-,ZP23-,ZS20-,ZS2025+


    It says most likely: E1b1b1a-E-PF2182 (E-L539, E-CTS10323).

    It also says:

    This suggested classification does not account for the following positive SNPs:

    BY352
    CLFY3449
    CTS3529T
    CTS4075
    CTS4437
    CTS4922
    CTS6048
    FB1464
    FB941
    FGC188
    FGC1897
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    FGC37
    FGC42
    FGC49
    L1425
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    M5420
    M5475
    M5571
    P102
    PF1558
    PF1697
    PF3558
    PF3720
    PF:13963821(T|C)
    PF:14136291(A|G)
    PF:14432928(A|G)
    PF:16751825(A|G)
    PF:17013730(A|G)
    PF:18117193(T|C)
    PF:21843090(G|C)
    S244
    S27194
    S27370
    S27445
    S27531
    S27568
    S27643
    S27696
    S27769
    S47
    S7474
    S8235
    Y2225
    YSC0000227
    Z12480
    Z2649
    Z58
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    Is it possible to transfer his data to FTDNA and to order Y-DNA test?
    His preliminary result (L539+, M78- ???) is non-trivial and interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farroukh View Post
    Is it possible to transfer his data to FTDNA and to order Y-DNA test?
    His preliminary result (L539+, M78- ???) is non-trivial and interesting
    The Y-DNA test needs an actual sample. The data from another test is not applicable.

    The different DNA testing vendors do not generally transfer DNA samples. You need to actually test at FTDNA to get your sample saved there for any other testing which you might want from them in the future. A sample might be used for mtDNA, autosomal DNA or Y DNA testing or a combination thereof if the sample has enough to go around, but each test needs to use real DNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farroukh View Post
    Is it possible to transfer his data to FTDNA and to order Y-DNA test?
    His preliminary result (L539+, M78- ???) is non-trivial and interesting
    Unfortunately the person in question is in another country and I do not have a way to test him using FTDNA anytime soon.

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