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    What are your top 3 non native populations ?

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    "sample": "Custom:Tim_G_scaled",
    "fit": 0.7722,
    "Irish": 30.4,
    "English": 25,
    "Scottish": 20.6,
    "Orcadian": 13,
    "Norwegian": 4,
    "Icelandic": 3.8,
    "Dutch": 3.2,
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    I've not yet been able to get my G25 coordinates (a problem with Paypal) so going by various tests, my top three non-UK populations tend to be Dutch, Iranian and Indian.
    Target: mildlycurly_scaled
    Distance: 1.3578% / 0.01357814
    57.0 Irish
    37.6 English
    2.6 Roma_Barcelona
    1.8 Ashkenazi_Germany
    1.0 Roma_Granada


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    If I do a run against the Modern Population Averages, I get this:


    JMcB_scaled_default
    1000 cycles
    500 batches

    Fit: 1.3952

    English: 40.6
    French_Brittany: 27.4
    Swedish: 4.6
    German: 2.8

    Norwegian: 2.4
    English_Cornwall: 2.2
    Basque_French: 2
    Basque_Spanish: 2
    German_East: 1.2
    Spanish_Catalunya_Central: 1.2
    French_East: 1
    French_South: 1


    On the other hand, if I do a Fit Check and remove all the individuals, I get this:


    01 Custom:AGUser_JMcB French_Brittany_Averaged 1.821
    02 Custom:AGUser_JMcB English_Averaged Averaged 1.824
    03 Custom:AGUser_JMcB English_Cornwall_Averaged 1.842
    11 Custom:AGUser_JMcB Scottish_Averaged Averaged 2.234
    13 Custom:AGUser_JMcB Orcadian_Averaged Averaged 2.258
    16 Custom:AGUser_JMcB German_Averaged 2.284
    23 Custom:AGUser_JMcB Welsh_Averaged Averaged 2.365
    25 Custom:AGUser_JMcB Dutch_Averaged 2.415
    Last edited by JMcB; 09-21-2019 at 03:45 PM.
    Paper Trail: 42.25% English, 31.25% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA(c): 86.3% British Isles (48.6% English, 37.7% Scottish & Irish), 7.8% NW Germanic, 5.9% Europe South (Aegean 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%)
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >FT80854 (circa 1650 AD).

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    0.02201867 Albanian
    0.02584720 Greek
    0.03212038 Italian_Bergamo
    0.03295229 Italian_Veneto

    0.03355755 Swiss_Italian
    0.03408136 Italian_Liguria
    0.03436122 Italian_Lombardy
    0.03474236 Italian_Tuscany
    0.03481950 Italian_Marche
    0.03654686 Moldavian
    0.03655192 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.03707430 Italian_Northeast
    0.03777084 Italian_Umbria
    0.03838511 HRV_IA
    0.03849540 Bulgarian
    0.03939660 Gagauz
    0.04025882 Macedonian
    0.04042319 Italian_Lazio
    0.04078618 HRV_MBA
    0.04175030 Italian_Molise
    0.04275742 HRV_EBA
    0.04306354 Italian_Abruzzo
    0.04392676 Romanian
    0.04631176 Italian_Apulia
    0.04662961 Scythian_MDA
    Ydna: J1>P58>YSC234>ZS241>BY32817 (Y179831)

    Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS1273*

    Mtdna: T1a1l

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    Input Group Name Details Fit
    1 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian_Averaged Averaged 1.447
    2 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish_Averaged Averaged 1.614
    4 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish_Averaged Averaged 1.816
    6 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Averaged Averaged 1.945
    10 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall_Averaged Averaged 2.031
    13 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic_Averaged Averaged 2.059
    23 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch_Averaged Averaged 2.199

    27 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French_Brittany_Averaged Averaged 2.265


    I think if there were Danish samples included in g25 that would replace one of them in the scaled Fit check/runner
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    "sample": "Test1:Jessie_scaled",
    "fit": 1.6971,
    "Icelandic": 30,
    "Welsh": 21.67,
    "Irish": 20,
    "Orcadian": 11.67,
    "English": 3.33,
    "Norwegian": 3.33,
    "Scottish": 3.33,
    "Swedish": 3.33,
    "French_Brittany": 1.67,
    "Cossack_Kuban": 0.83,
    "English_Cornwall": 0.83,


    2 Custom:AGUser_Jessie Irish_Averaged Averaged 1.876
    3 Custom:AGUser_Jessie Icelandic_Averaged Averaged 1.914
    5 Custom:AGUser_Jessie Scottish_Averaged Averaged 1.964
    6 Custom:AGUser_Jessie Welsh_Averaged Averaged 1.977

    7 Custom:AGUser_Jessie Orcadian_Averaged Averaged 1.98
    13 Custom:AGUser_Jessie English_Averaged Averaged 2.206
    23 Custom:AGUser_Jessie Norwegian_Averaged Averaged 2.336
    26 Custom:AGUser_Jessie French_Brittany_Averaged Averaged 2.359
    37 Custom:AGUser_Jessie English_Cornwall_Averaged Averaged 2.454
    38 Custom:AGUser_Jessie Dutch_Averaged Averaged 2.459
    43 Custom:AGUser_Jessie Shetlandic_Averaged Averaged 2.494

    Not sure why I get Icelandic so prominently in my results.

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    0.02066829 Slovenian
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    0.02385247 Croatian
    0.02726424 Polish
    0.03017845 Slovakian
    0.03040173 Austrian
    0.03119677 Ukrainian
    0.03499420 Bosnian
    0.03523389 Cossack_Ukrainian
    0.03558369 German
    0.03607076 Russian_Voronez
    0.03672126 Sorb_Niederlausitz
    0.03726652 Russian_Orel
    0.04001468 Russian_Smolensk
    0.04082521 Swedish
    0.04197653 Russian_Kursk
    0.04374385 Belarusian
    0.04609979 Dutch
    0.04774924 Montenegrin
    0.04884245 Serbian
    0.04994702 Orcadian
    0.05061718 Russian_Tver
    0.05120451 English
     
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    0.03340172 Italian_Northeast_o
    0.03354885 Bosnian
    0.03609564 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky
    0.03687042 Romanian
    0.03789578 DEU_MA_ACD
    0.03886699 Croatian
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    0.04182068 Austrian
    0.04259037 Slovenian
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    0.04287804 HUN_MA
    0.04390197 Macedonian
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    0.04570456 Scythian_HUN
    0.04603027 Moldavian
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    0.05135980 CZE_Early_Slav
    0.05179824 HUN_MA_Szolad
    0.05188882 Czech
    0.05329963 Turkish_Balkans


    Unscaled

    Distance to: Dorkymon
    0.01473211 Montenegrin
    0.01654841 Italian_Northeast_o
    0.01702762 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky
    0.01762531 Bosnian
    0.01779375 Slovakian
    0.01878730 Romanian
    0.01984504 Macedonian
    0.01999470 Moldavian
    0.02011160 Bulgarian
    0.02088093 Serbian
    0.02161538 Croatian
    0.02208393 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige_o
    0.02214161 Hungarian
    0.02217370 Turkish_Balkans
    0.02257826 Scythian_HUN
    0.02310187 Austrian
    0.02322766 Slovenian
    0.02397870 Gagauz
    0.02500340 CZE_Early_Slav
    0.02604976 Greek
    0.02617470 Italian_Northeast
    0.02623306 Czech
    0.02691706 DEU_MA_ACD
    0.02713510 Albanian
    0.02724642 Scythian_UKR
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    If I try running the Modern Averages on Vahaduo, which doesn’t use any penalty, I get the following:

    Target: JMcB_scaled

    Distance: 1.2298% / 0.01229838

    41.4 Swedish
    22.4 English
    16.2 Basque_Spanish
    11.8 Swiss_French
    7.2 French_Brittany
    0.8 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    0.2 Biaka

    Which is why I rarely use pen=0


    Although, I do like using their fit check because it removes the individuals

    Distance to: JMcB_scaled
    0.01820809 French_Brittany
    0.01823704 English
    0.01841603 English_Cornwall
    0.02233857 Scottish
    0.02258235 Orcadian
    0.02284345 German
    0.02365273 Welsh
    0.02414544 Dutch
    0.02430356 Belgian
    0.02522091 Irish
    0.02858005 Shetlandic
    0.02983328 Norwegian
    Last edited by JMcB; 09-21-2019 at 04:10 PM.
    Paper Trail: 42.25% English, 31.25% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA(c): 86.3% British Isles (48.6% English, 37.7% Scottish & Irish), 7.8% NW Germanic, 5.9% Europe South (Aegean 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%)
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >FT80854 (circa 1650 AD).

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    0.02488614 Spanish_Extremadura
    0.02589305 Spanish_Alacant

    0.02597823 Portuguese
    0.02627439 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    0.02845471 Spanish_Eivissa
    0.02973615 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    0.03028934 Spanish_Valencia
    0.03034411 Spanish_Mallorca
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    0.03140340 Spanish_Barcelones
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    0.03172354 Spanish_Asturias
    0.03199310 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
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    0.03258607 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
    0.03268666 Spanish_Cantabria
    0.03279146 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
    0.03296248 Spanish_Penedes

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