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    Determining my subclade of mtDNA H

    Here is my predicted results from James Lick's mtDNA haplogroup predictor:

    Markers found (shown as differences to rCRS):

    HVR2: 263G (315.1C) 522.1A 522.2C
    CR:
    HVR1: 16239T (16519C)


    Best mtDNA Haplogroup Matches:

    1) H1(C16239T)

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H1(C16239T):
    HVR2: 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 3010A 4769G 8860G 15326G
    HVR1: 16239T

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H1(C16239T) (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G
    ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 3010A ⇨ H1 ⇨ 16239T ⇨ H1(C16239T) ⇨ (315.1C) 522.1A
    522.2C (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(2): 263G 16239T
    Extras(2): (315.1C) 522.1A 522.2C (16519C)
    Untested(6): 750 1438 3010 4769 8860 15326


    2) H1bf

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H1bf:
    HVR2: 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 3010A 4769G 8860G 13768C 15326G
    HVR1: 16239T

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H1bf (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G
    ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 3010A ⇨ H1 ⇨ 16239T ⇨ H1(C16239T) ⇨ 13768C ⇨ H1bf ⇨
    (315.1C) 522.1A 522.2C (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(2): 263G 16239T
    Extras(2): (315.1C) 522.1A 522.2C (16519C)
    Untested(7): 750 1438 3010 4769 8860 13768 15326


    2) H1bh

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H1bh:
    HVR2: 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 3010A 4769G 8860G 11377A 15326G
    HVR1: 16239T

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H1bh (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G
    ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 3010A ⇨ H1 ⇨ 16239T ⇨ H1(C16239T) ⇨ 11377A ⇨ H1bh ⇨
    (315.1C) 522.1A 522.2C (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(2): 263G 16239T
    Extras(2): (315.1C) 522.1A 522.2C (16519C)
    Untested(7): 750 1438 3010 4769 8860 11377 15326


    2) H1ch

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H1ch:
    HVR2: 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 1462A 3010A 4769G 8860G 15326G
    HVR1: 16239T

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H1ch (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G
    ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 3010A ⇨ H1 ⇨ 16239T ⇨ H1(C16239T) ⇨ 1462A ⇨ H1ch ⇨
    (315.1C) 522.1A 522.2C (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(2): 263G 16239T
    Extras(2): (315.1C) 522.1A 522.2C (16519C)
    Untested(7): 750 1438 1462 3010 4769 8860 15326


    2) H1bg

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H1bg:
    HVR2: 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 3010A 4769G 5054A 7849T 8860G 15326G
    HVR1: 16239T

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H1bg (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G
    ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 3010A ⇨ H1 ⇨ 16239T ⇨ H1(C16239T) ⇨ 5054A 7849T ⇨
    H1bg ⇨ (315.1C) 522.1A 522.2C (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(2): 263G 16239T
    Extras(2): (315.1C) 522.1A 522.2C (16519C)
    Untested(8): 750 1438 3010 4769 5054 7849 8860 15326


    3) H2a2a

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a:
    HVR2: 263G
    CR:
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ (315.1C) 522.1A 522.2C 16239T (16519C)

    Good Match! Your results also had extra markers for this haplogroup:
    Matches(1): 263G
    Extras(3): (315.1C) 522.1A 522.2C 16239T (16519C)

    Could someone translate these results?

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    Just to clarify, you tested HVR1 and HVR2, but NOT the CR...correct?
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    It looks as if you tested with a company who don’t do the full sequence. So you have some defining mutations but not enough to be sure of where you fit. No tool can predict when the test has not been done. So you get the 3 best guesses.

    If I were to bet (and I rarely do) it would be on option 3 since you have a positive selection for this sub-clade. Your extras are positions which mutate a bit too fast to be very useful as tree markers.
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