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    Quote Originally Posted by maroco View Post
    My uncle said we are from Taourirt
    The area North had a heavy Phoenician presence and later Carthaginian one, I think this would be the most likely scenario of your direct paternal line, I would say it with 95% confidence!
    My Y Line: J2a-L210>Z489>Z482>Y15222

    My Maternal Y: R1b-U152>Z36>Y156527

    Other Y lines: 3x Great Grandfather on Maternal side: J2a-S25258>SK1336, 5x Great Grandfather on Maternal side: E-V13> A7135, 6x Great Grandfather on Maternal side: J1-Z2331>L829

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    Thanks, you’ve being a great help. I’ll test with FTdna and will let you know the results once I have them

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    Also I don’t know if this will be useful or not, but my family name is Ancient Greek in origin

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    This could very well be the potential Y-DNA of my maternal family, who is from Calabria, Italy. Looking forward to learning more!
    MDKA: Robert Boulay, b. 1631, Réveillon, Orne, France
    Y-DNA: R1b-U152 > L2 > Z367 > Z34 > Z33 > BY164497> BY3604

    Maternal Y-DNA: J2a-M67 > Z1847 > Y4036 > Z467 > Z447> L210

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    I see a lot of Eastern and Central European flags on https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-L210/, do you think the J-L210 branches in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, Poland and Germany are of Jewish origin (at least for the paternal haplogroup)? mine could hypothetically be J-Y81401, as it's found on those two people from my paternal ancestry's region (now called Ivano-Frankivsk). could it gotten to Hutsuls/Rusyns from Jews or could it be a regional development from another source (Neolithic, Steppe etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devadatta View Post
    I see a lot of Eastern and Central European flags on https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-L210/, do you think the J-L210 branches in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, Poland and Germany are of Jewish origin (at least for the paternal haplogroup)? mine could hypothetically be J-Y81401, as it's found on those two people from my paternal ancestry's region (now called Ivano-Frankivsk). could it gotten to Hutsuls/Rusyns from Jews or could it be a regional development from another source (Neolithic, Steppe etc).
    To my understanding, all the branches under J-Y15223 are Jewish. But I'm not as knowledgeable about this clade as my own.
    Other Y-DNA:

    Maternal 6X Great Grandfather J1-ZS10441

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    Distance: 1.9563% / 0.01956275
    33.6 Levant_Ashkelon_LBA
    18.4 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
    11.8 Baltic_LTU_Late_Antiquity_low_res
    10.0 IRN_Hajji_Firuz_BA
    9.0 Canary_Islands_Guanche
    8.4 FRA_IA
    7.6 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
    1.2 CHN_Chuanyun_Historic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devadatta View Post
    I see a lot of Eastern and Central European flags on https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-L210/, do you think the J-L210 branches in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, Poland and Germany are of Jewish origin (at least for the paternal haplogroup)? mine could hypothetically be J-Y81401, as it's found on those two people from my paternal ancestry's region (now called Ivano-Frankivsk). could it gotten to Hutsuls/Rusyns from Jews or could it be a regional development from another source (Neolithic, Steppe etc).
    Devadatta, yes all of the flags you see under J-Y15223 are Ashkenazi. There does seem to ethnic Ukrainians and Russians under J-L210, which company have you tested with?
    My Y Line: J2a-L210>Z489>Z482>Y15222

    My Maternal Y: R1b-U152>Z36>Y156527

    Other Y lines: 3x Great Grandfather on Maternal side: J2a-S25258>SK1336, 5x Great Grandfather on Maternal side: E-V13> A7135, 6x Great Grandfather on Maternal side: J1-Z2331>L829

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    Quote Originally Posted by Principe View Post
    Devadatta, yes all of the flags you see under J-Y15223 are Ashkenazi. There does seem to ethnic Ukrainians and Russians under J-L210, which company have you tested with?
    tested with 23andme back in 2011. I don't know my subclade, I only know it is something under J-L210 because I've got negative calls for the other two sub-branches of J-M67. paternal side is Ukrainian (Carpathian Rusnak / Hutsul, how you want to call it) with recent Polish and possibly German ancestry (our village was populated by Orthodox Ukrainians and Lutheran Germans until WW1, but as only few Germans stayed, now it is exclusively Ukrainian, ethnically). I myself am mixed, though, as mom is West Moldovan (mt DNA H14b)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devadatta View Post
    tested with 23andme back in 2011. I don't know my subclade, I only know it is something under J-L210 because I've got negative calls for the other two sub-branches of J-M67. paternal side is Ukrainian (Carpathian Rusnak / Hutsul, how you want to call it) with recent Polish and possibly German ancestry (our village was populated by Orthodox Ukrainians and Lutheran Germans until WW1, but as only few Germans stayed, now it is exclusively Ukrainian, ethnically). I myself am mixed, though, as mom is West Moldovan (mt DNA H14b)
    Thanks for the response, by other two branches you mean Z7671 and Z500? There is 3 sub branches under Z467, have you checked S11842? There is one SK1336 Ukrainian, there probably is some under S21160/Z6271, but odds are L210, there is a bit of presence in the area, I suggest transferring to ftdna and order a Y37 test.
    My Y Line: J2a-L210>Z489>Z482>Y15222

    My Maternal Y: R1b-U152>Z36>Y156527

    Other Y lines: 3x Great Grandfather on Maternal side: J2a-S25258>SK1336, 5x Great Grandfather on Maternal side: E-V13> A7135, 6x Great Grandfather on Maternal side: J1-Z2331>L829

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    Interestingly, this is one of the haplogroups that pops up in some European gentiles as well as Ashkenazi Jews, mostly from different branches. Some carriers maybe descendants of Jewish converts to Christianity, however. I suspect the origins of this haplogroup are in the Caucasus, with it being found in the Chalcolithic/Early Bronze Age site of Arslantepe in Turkey.
    Last edited by alchemist223; 10-19-2020 at 02:55 PM.
    MDKA: Robert Boulay, b. 1631, Réveillon, Orne, France
    Y-DNA: R1b-U152 > L2 > Z367 > Z34 > Z33 > BY164497> BY3604

    Maternal Y-DNA: J2a-M67 > Z1847 > Y4036 > Z467 > Z447> L210

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