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    Dad's Geno 2.0 mtDNA Result: K1a1

    My dad just got his Geno 2.0 results yesterday. Up until then, I did not know what his mtDNA haplogroup is. I just found out he belongs to K1a1.

    What is known about that mtDNA haplogroup? Is there a distribution map somewhere?

    Apparently Geno 2.0 just tells you your mtDNA haplogroup but does not supply you with the list of mutations from the CRS.

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    Well, I see from Eupedia's mtDNA K distribution map that K is fairly frequent in Ireland. My dad's mtDNA mdka is his maternal grandmother, Lula McElroy (aka McIlroy), and she was either Irish or of Irish descent.

    Is K1a1 the most frequent variety of K in Ireland?

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    The raw data file lists your differences from the RSRS (Reconstructed Sapiens Reference Sequence) -- for the SNPs they include. The coverage is ~ 3281 out of the total 16,569 positions, so you could have additional "private" mutations if you did a Full Mitochondrial Sequence from FTDNA.

    One resource is http://www.mtdnacommunity.org. You can look at the phylogenetic tree there and click on K1a1 to see the geographic origins for samples in their database.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ann Turner View Post
    The raw data file lists your differences from the RSRS (Reconstructed Sapiens Reference Sequence) -- for the SNPs they include. The coverage is ~ 3281 out of the total 16,569 positions, so you could have additional "private" mutations if you did a Full Mitochondrial Sequence from FTDNA.

    One resource is http://www.mtdnacommunity.org. You can look at the phylogenetic tree there and click on K1a1 to see the geographic origins for samples in their database.
    Thanks, Ann.

    I downloaded my dad's CSV file last night, but I haven't had time to look it over very well yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    Is K1a1 the most frequent variety of K in Ireland?
    I'm not sure -- I do know that K1a4a1, K1a10, K1a15, and K1c2 are all fairly common there as well.
     

    Other ancestral Y lines:

    E1b-M81 Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    E1b-V13 England
    I1-M253 Ireland
    I2-M423 Ukraine
    R1a-L176.1 Scotland
    R1b-L584 Syria/Turkey (Sephardi)
    R1b-L20 Ireland
    R1b-L21 (1)England; (2)Wales?>Connecticut
    R1b-L48 England
    R1b-P312 Scotland
    R1b-FGC32576 Ireland

    Other ancestral mtDNA lines:

    H1b2a Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    H6a1a3 Ukraine
    K1a9 Belarus (Ashkenazi)
    K1c2 Ireland
    V7a Ukraine

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    Here are my dad's differences from the RSRS:

    195 Mt A A
    247 Mt C C
    497 Mt T T
    769 Mt C C
    825 Mt A A
    1018 Mt C C
    1189 Mt G G
    1811 Mt C C
    2395 Mt T T
    2758 Mt C C
    2885 Mt T T
    3308 Mt G G
    3480 Mt G G
    3594 Mt G G
    4104 Mt A A
    4312 Mt C C
    4739 Mt T T
    7256 Mt C C
    7521 Mt G G
    8468 Mt G G
    8655 Mt C C
    8701 Mt A A
    9055 Mt A A
    9540 Mt T T
    9698 Mt C C
    10238 Mt G G
    10550 Mt C C
    10664 Mt G G
    10688 Mt C C
    10810 Mt A A
    10873 Mt T T
    10915 Mt A A
    11299 Mt G G
    11467 Mt C C
    12308 Mt C C
    12372 Mt T T
    12705 Mt G G
    13105 Mt T T
    13276 Mt A A
    13506 Mt C C
    13650 Mt G G
    14167 Mt T T
    14798 Mt G G
    16129 Mt G G
    16172 Mt G G
    16224 Mt G G
    16230 Mt A A
    16278 Mt C C

    There are a lot of them, evidently!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    Here are my dad's differences from the RSRS:

    195 Mt A A
    247 Mt C C
    497 Mt T T
    769 Mt C C
    825 Mt A A
    1018 Mt C C
    1189 Mt G G
    1811 Mt C C
    2395 Mt T T
    2758 Mt C C
    2885 Mt T T
    3308 Mt G G
    3480 Mt G G
    3594 Mt G G
    4104 Mt A A
    4312 Mt C C
    4739 Mt T T
    7256 Mt C C
    7521 Mt G G
    8468 Mt G G
    8655 Mt C C
    8701 Mt A A
    9055 Mt A A
    9540 Mt T T
    9698 Mt C C
    10238 Mt G G
    10550 Mt C C
    10664 Mt G G
    10688 Mt C C
    10810 Mt A A
    10873 Mt T T
    10915 Mt A A
    11299 Mt G G
    11467 Mt C C
    12308 Mt C C
    12372 Mt T T
    12705 Mt G G
    13105 Mt T T
    13276 Mt A A
    13506 Mt C C
    13650 Mt G G
    14167 Mt T T
    14798 Mt G G
    16129 Mt G G
    16172 Mt G G
    16224 Mt G G
    16230 Mt A A
    16278 Mt C C

    There are a lot of them, evidently!
    These are my data as to RSRS, which is creating a lot of confusion and a recent paper has proposed to return to the rCRS
    A16129G
    T16187C
    C16189T
    T16223C
    T16224C
    G16230A
    T16278C


    HVR2 DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS

    C146T
    C152T
    C195T
    A247G
    309.1C
    315.1C
    C497T
    522.1A
    522.2C


    CODING REGION DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS

    A769G
    A825t
    A1018G
    T1189C
    A1811G
    A2758G
    C2885T
    A3480G
    T3594C
    G4104A
    T4312C
    G7146A
    T7256C
    A7521G
    T8468C
    T8655C
    G8701A
    G9055A
    C9540T
    T9698C
    G9932A
    A10550G
    T10664C
    A10688G
    C10810T
    C10873T
    C10915T
    T11204C
    T11299C
    A11467G
    A11470G
    A12308G
    G12372A
    T12705C
    G13105A
    G13276A
    T13506C
    T13650C
    C14167T
    T14798C
    A15924G

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    Even though there is a little confusion in the reading of the data, because sometime different strands are read, I noted these mutations I haven't:

    2395 TT
    3308 GG
    4739 TT
    10238 GG
    16172 GG

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    RMS, you might also run the data through James Lick's utility:

    http://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/

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    The most meaningful mutation, also for a research on Mitosearch, is 16172. It is very likely that G is a reading in reverse strand, thus we should have T16172C. As hg K1a has pretty always in HVRI the mutation in 16224C, 16311C, 16519C, we have that the closest to Rich's father are these persons:

    User ID HVR1 Mutations HVR2 Mutations
    RJ9E6 172C, 224C, 311C, 519C 073G, 263G, 497T
    94KGD 172C, 224C, 311C, 519C 073G, 263G, 315.1C, 497T
    D7AGQ 172C, 224C, 311C, 519C 073G, 195C, 263G, 315.1C, 497T, 523.1C, 523.2A

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