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    Good point, it'll be good to get either Michal or parasar to expound on your questions. I'm a novice and still learning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe B View Post
    Morely's predictor for Haddad
    Examining: R1a [R1a-F3650 (R1a-F928, R1a-CTS10627)]

    This suggested classification does not account for the following positive SNPs:
    CTS8749
    F2302 (Geno 2.0 results are erratic for this SNP)
    L566 (mis-called by FTDNA?)
    PF15 (mis-called by FTDNA?)
    PF601 (mis-called by FTDNA?)
    PF720 (mis-called by FTDNA?)

    Ftdna removed M269 from the confirmed SNPs list for Haddad in the projects. Is that typical?
    The same lab, FTDNA, is giving conflicting results using different methodologies. It should be up to FTDNA to rerun these test. From a professional credibility standpoint, FTDNA or any lab, should want to clear this up.
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    There's two related Haddad's with the exact same haplotype in the FTDNA Iraq project. The newest one is confirmed R1, and the older one (I think the forum poster) labeled as *green* R1b1a2

    There are a bunch of likely R-V88 results among SW Asian projects erroneously labeled R1b1a2. I'm not expert on the science and methods behind the test results, but this "glitch" is very troubling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahaddad View Post
    Anyone have the frequency for my Y-Haplogroup in World? how common in european or arabs my haplogroup? What my SNP? About Who i'am i can get more clear the data like admixing in GedMatch? Because say just Georgian and Lebanese. How is my branch of R so? I'm R1a??
    Your branch is probably Alan or Persian in origin. (my own theory) There is a related branch to yours in England/Scotland which might represent Alan mercenary settlement during Roman Britain. Certainly this pet theory of mine weighs more than the previous YDNA G = Alan theory which pervaded these types of forums over the years. We know that was pure oversimplification and just plain wrong.

    It seems the Geno 2.0 result is more reliable, you are probably R1a-M420, which is more inline with your haplotype results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADW_1981 View Post
    Your branch is probably Alan or Persian in origin. (my own theory) There is a related branch to yours in England/Scotland which might represent Alan mercenary settlement during Roman Britain. Certainly this pet theory of mine weighs more than the previous YDNA G = Alan theory which pervaded these types of forums over the years. We know that was pure oversimplification and just plain wrong.

    It seems the Geno 2.0 result is more reliable, you are probably R1a-M420, which is more inline with your haplotype results.
    The YDNA G=Alans was based on nothing more than the assumption that Ossetians=Alans. But it is still possible and likely IMO Alans also carried carried G in minor amounts. Their ancestral location in Western Kazakhstan is not very far from the farming settlements of South Central Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADW_1981 View Post
    There's two related Haddad's with the exact same haplotype in the FTDNA Iraq project. The newest one is confirmed R1, and the older one (I think the forum poster) labeled as *green* R1b1a2

    There are a bunch of likely R-V88 results among SW Asian projects erroneously labeled R1b1a2. I'm not expert on the science and methods behind the test results, but this "glitch" is very troubling.
    Yes one it's me and other my dad!!!!

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    WHO I AM

    59% MEDITERRANEAN
    31% SOUTHWEST ASIAN
    8% NORTH EUROPEAN
    And about this dates what mean??? I can put the GENO 2.0 results one calculator to see admix??

    FIRST POPULATION REFERENCE- GEORGIAN
    SECOND POPULATION REFERENCE-LEBANESE

    1,1% NEANDERTHAL
    1,3% DENISOVAN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahaddad View Post
    About Who i'am i can get more clear the data like admixing in GedMatch? Because say just Georgian and Lebanese.
    Please do not take these literally. The Assyrian ZephyrousMandaru received the same pair, Georgian and Lebanese. They do not have Assyrians and Chaldeans as reference populations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADW_1981 View Post
    There's two related Haddad's with the exact same haplotype in the FTDNA Iraq project. The newest one is confirmed R1, and the older one (I think the forum poster) labeled as *green* R1b1a2.
    One is the forum poster, and one is the sample of the forum poster's father, the Chaldean Catholic from Mosul (Nineveh) Iraq, I believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahaddad View Post
    Yes one it's me and other my dad!!!!
    I see that Ahaddad beat me to it.
    Last edited by Humanist; 01-16-2014 at 09:30 PM.

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    Haddad I have been following your story from when you posted over at FTDNA forum. Your Gene 2.0 result for your yDNA is interesting. Have you questioned FTDNA about the discrepancy between their result for you and your Geno 2.0 result?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tįltos View Post
    Haddad I have been following your story from when you posted over at FTDNA forum. Your Gene 2.0 result for your yDNA is interesting. Have you questioned FTDNA about the discrepancy between their result for you and your Geno 2.0 result?
    Not yet, i don't know what i write and where i send.

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