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    Table S2. Sample information. Ancient Italian individuals included in this study
    Sample Archaeological ID and Notes Skeletal Element Site Cultural Affiliation Radiocarbon Dated Date (Direct radiocarbon date on the individual calibrated 95% confidence interval or date range based on the archaeological context, including AMS dating of stratigraphic unit) Period according to archaeological context Period Label for Analyses UDG treatment SNP Coverage Inferred Sex mtDNA Y-chr Coverage Contamination_MT Contamination_Xchr Damage rate on last base (5p G>A) %Endogenous
    R132 Marcellino & Pietro; A Petrous Marcellino & Pietro Roman Imperial Yes 136 - 326 calCE Late Antiquity Imperial 30-min (partial) 404374 Male R0a2j G-Z3428 1,50 0,01 0,00551 7,69% 67,92
    R49 Centocelle; ADL 2000; US 2335; T. 20 Petrous Centocelle Roman Imperial No 0 - 400 CE Imperial Rome Imperial 30-min (partial) 373741 Female H1u -- 1,22 0,01 -- 6,24% 61,40
    R51 Centocelle; ADL; 2616 Petrous Centocelle Roman Imperial No 0 - 400 CE Imperial Rome Imperial 30-min (partial) 331479 Female U3b1 -- 0,99 0,01 -- 5,92% 46,10
    R37 SCR; 426; Isola Sacra Petrous Isola Sacra Roman Imperial No 1 - 400 CE Imperial Rome Imperial 30-min (partial) 325372 Female U6a6a1 -- 0,92 0,02 -- 10,34% 59,20
    R38 SCR; 711; Isola Sacra Petrous Isola Sacra Roman Imperial No 1 - 400 CE Imperial Rome Imperial 30-min (partial) 363689 Female T2d2 -- 1,15 0,01 -- 10,69% 65,80
    R40 SCR; 479; Isola Sacra Petrous Isola Sacra Roman Imperial No 1 - 400 CE Imperial Rome Imperial 30-min (partial) 343396 Female K1a4a -- 1,01 0,01 -- 8,56% 61,10
    R41 SCR; 306; Isola Sacra Petrous Isola Sacra Roman Imperial No 1 - 400 CE Imperial Rome Imperial 30-min (partial) 367037 Female H5a1 -- 1,11 0,01 -- 9,47% 62,30
    R43 SCR; 148; Isola Sacra Petrous Isola Sacra Roman Imperial No 1 - 400 CE Imperial Rome Imperial 30-min (partial) 403151 Female H7f -- 1,50 0,01 -- 9,53% 56,70
    R44 SCR; 201; Isola Sacra Petrous Isola Sacra Roman Imperial No 1 - 400 CE Imperial Rome Imperial 30-min (partial) 351348 Male T2 J-M304 1,03 0,13 0,00389 6,85% 62,80
    R45 SCR; 510; Isola Sacra Petrous Isola Sacra Roman Imperial No 1 - 400 CE Imperial Rome Imperial 30-min (partial) 353465 Female U3b1 -- 1,07 0,00 -- 7,73% 68,91
    R1543 Mazzano Romano Cranio 3 Petrous Mazzano Romano Roman Imperial No 1 - 400 CE Imperial Imperial 30-min (partial) 340275 Male H1e T-Z709 0,99 0,01 0,00508 11,23% 21,37
    R1544 Mazzano Romano T.1 Petrous Mazzano Romano Roman Imperial No 1 - 400 CE Imperial Imperial 30-min (partial) 322069 Female J1c -- 0,93 0,01 -- 4,32% 35,08
    R1545 Mazzano Romana Tomba Camera Cranio 1 Petrous Mazzano Romano Roman Imperial No 1 - 400 CE Imperial Imperial 30-min (partial) 404833 Male H8c G-CTS9909 1,52 0,01 0,00480 8,61% 32,19
    R47 Centocelle; ADL 2000; US 2288; T 16 Petrous Centocelle Roman Imperial Yes 232 - 333 calCE Imperial Rome Imperial 30-min (partial) 357112 Male J1c1c G-M406 1,12 0,01 0,01262 5,04% 54,90
    R126 27 Petrous Casale del dolce Roman Imperial Yes 240 - 334 calCE Imperial Rome/Late Antiquity Imperial 30-min (partial) 347356 Female U6a7c1 -- 1,04 0,01 -- 6,64% 85,95
    R130 Marcellino & Pietro; C7 Petrous Marcellino & Pietro No 300 - 500 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 395031 Male H107 J-L818 1,37 0,01 0,00416 4,98% 63,80
    R133 Marcellino & Pietro; B Petrous Marcellino & Pietro No 300 - 500 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 410816 Female HV1a3 -- 1,62 0,00 -- 6,33% 89,98
    R134 Marcellino & Pietro; C2 Petrous Marcellino & Pietro No 300 - 500 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 363312 Female K1a4c1 -- 1,17 0,01 -- 7,14% 89,82
    R136 Marcellino & Pietro; C5 Petrous Marcellino & Pietro No 300 - 500 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 430786 Male T2d2 J-L70 1,82 0,00 0,00594 5,11% 89,70
    R137 Marcellino & Pietro; C6 Petrous Marcellino & Pietro No 300 - 500 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 386155 Female U5b2a1a -- 1,32 0,01 -- 6,07% 87,67
    R31 Mausoleo di Augusto; 2010; US 4093 = 4100 Petrous Mausoleo di Augusto Yes 332 - 419 calCE Late Antiquity/Early Medieval LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 436490 Male K1c1 R-Z302 1,96 0,01 0,00829 8,52% 69,10
    R35 Celio; Limite Sud; AMB XXII Petrous Celio No 400 - 600 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 256461 Female H32 -- 0,64 0,01 -- 7,89% 31,20
    R36 Celio A Petrous Celio No 400 - 600 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 374866 Male T1a1 R-Z145 1,25 0,01 0,01141 8,56% 70,10
    R105 T53 Petrous Crypta Balbi No 400 - 600 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 366252 Male T1a J-M267 1,13 0,01 0,00443 7,31% 56,10
    R106 754-2 Petrous Crypta Balbi No 400 - 600 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 347498 Female J2a1a1a2 -- 1,06 0,00 -- 9,26% 70,20
    R107 754-1 Petrous Crypta Balbi No 400 - 600 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 401070 Male T2h E-V13 1,47 0,01 0,00580 7,17% 71,20
    R108 754-3 Petrous Crypta Balbi No 400 - 600 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 357674 Male T2b+150 G-Z726 1,06 0,01 0,00596 7,57% 65,20
    R109 XII 130 BIS Petrous Crypta Balbi No 400 - 600 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 219780 Female H1ba -- 0,49 0,03 -- 5,38% 22,00
    R110 XII 127 Petrous Crypta Balbi No 400 - 600 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 278983 Male H1e I-M253 0,68 0,01 0,00449 6,87% 45,00
    R30 Mausoleo di Augusto; 2010; US 4115/B Petrous Mausoleo di Augusto No 300 - 700 CE Late Antiquity/Early Medieval LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 394954 Male L4a2 G-CTS796 1,39 0,01 0,00889 7,97% 61,80
    R32 Mausoleo di Augusto; 2010; US 4018 Petrous Mausoleo di Augusto No 300 - 700 CE Late Antiquity/Early Medieval LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 273169 Male H2a1 I-CTS616 0,65 0,01 0,01158 9,00% 44,90
    R33 Mausoleo di Augusto; 2010; US 4112 Petrous Mausoleo di Augusto No 300 - 700 CE Late Antiquity/Early Medieval LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 410063 Male K1a R-P312 1,52 0,01 0,01529 8,19% 61,30
    R34 Mausoleo di Augusto; 2010; US 4112 Petrous Mausoleo di Augusto No 300 - 700 CE Late Antiquity/Early Medieval LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 356048 Male H+195+146 J-M410 1,06 0,01 0,01286 7,65% 58,30
    R117 110/352 Petrous San Ercolano No 400 - 600 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 331826 Male T2b J-M410 0,95 0,01 0,00420 6,65% 61,00
    R118 215/22 Petrous San Ercolano No 400 - 600 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 265983 Male H1e1a H-P96 0,63 0,01 0,00372 6,10% 36,40
    R120 1072/82 Petrous San Ercolano No 400 - 600 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 227419 Male I1c T-L446 0,51 0,01 0,00523 6,94% 29,20
    R121 1112/38 Petrous San Ercolano No 400 - 600 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 252989 Female H17 -- 0,61 0,02 -- 6,14% 36,70
    R122 1119-1130/39 Petrous San Ercolano No 400 - 600 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 397743 Female J1c+16261 -- 1,38 0,01 -- 4,81% 60,50
    R104 754-4 Petrous Crypta Balbi No 400 - 600 CE Late Antiquity LateAntiquity 30-min (partial) 308078 Male U5b3a1a I-PF4088 0,85 0,01 0,00623 10,42% 55,30
    R1283 Palazzo della Cancelleria US 294 65 A Petrous Cancelleria Yes 771 - 947 calCE Medieval Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 350515 Male H12 J-M12 1,04 0,01 0,01055 5,07% 43,43
    R60 VM 10; MON 3885 Petrous Villa Magna *same stratigraphic unit as R59 820 - 990 calCE Early Medieval Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 428944 Female T2c1 -- 1,91 0,01 -- 8,08% 69,10
    R59 VM 3864 Petrous Villa Magna Yes 820 - 990 calCE Early Medieval Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 391580 Male N1b1a E-V12 1,44 0,00 0,00741 10,04% 64,30
    R63 VM 09; BII; 4274 Petrous Villa Magna Yes 970 - 1010 calCE Central Medieval A Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 437544 Male K1a2a I-M423 1,97 0,01 0,00396 6,41% 71,50
    R1285 Palazzo della Cancelleria US 394 Petrous Cancelleria Yes 974 - 1035 calCE Medieval Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 340817 Male T2c1a C-V222 0,99 0,01 0,00762 7,83% 39,38
    R58 VM 09; MON BI; 3550 Petrous Villa Magna No 700 - 1500 CE Medieval (General) Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 407668 Male H1c3 R-Z306 1,49 0,01 0,00738 NA 53,50
    R57 VM 3524 Petrous Villa Magna *same stratigraphic unit as R64 1070 - 1150 calCE Central Medieval B Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 361222 Female I1a1a3 -- 1,23 0,01 -- 9,20% 63,30
    R65 VM 09; MON BII; 4378 Petrous Villa Magna *same stratigraphic unit as R64 1070 - 1150 calCE Central Medieval B Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 438123 Female T2b -- 2,04 0,01 -- 5,72% 74,80
    R64 VM 4342 Petrous Villa Magna Yes 1070 - 1150 calCE Central Medieval B Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 435049 Male HV0a G-Z6800 1,93 0,02 0,00553 8,17% 70,70
    R62 VM 4142 Petrous Villa Magna *stratigraphic unit dated 1130 - 1300 calCE Central Medieval C Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 416894 Female HV0a -- 1,69 0,01 -- 8,55% 68,60
    R1290 Palazzo della Cancelleria US 501 94 Petrous Cancelleria Yes 1295 - 1400 calCE Medieval Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 357974 Female H1c3a -- 1,08 0,00 -- 5,59% 34,62
    R52 VM 07; MON BI; 2306 Petrous Villa Magna *same stratigraphic unit as R54 1280 - 1430 calCE Late Medieval Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 273478 Male T1a1 G-PF3239 0,67 0,01 0,01013 5,41% 35,40
    R53 VM 08; MON BI; 2676 Petrous Villa Magna *same stratigraphic unit as R54 1280 - 1430 calCE Late Medieval Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 382883 Male U2e1c1 E-V257 1,22 0,13 0,01249 6,03% 62,80
    R55 VM 08; MON BI; 2757 Petrous Villa Magna *same stratigraphic unit as R54 1280 - 1430 calCE Late Medieval Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 397654 Male J2b1a G-Z30771 1,43 0,01 0,00668 5,87% 71,10
    R56 VM BI 2857 Petrous Villa Magna *same stratigraphic unit as R54 1280 - 1430 calCE Late Medieval Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 311581 Female U5b3f -- 0,92 0,01 -- 7,72% 55,40
    R61 VM 07; BII; 4067 Petrous Villa Magna *same stratigraphic unit as R54 1280 - 1430 calCE Late Medieval Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 399332 Male HV R-PF7589 1,45 0,01 0,00560 8,24% 62,80
    R54 VM 09 BI 2688 Petrous Villa Magna Yes 1280 - 1430 calCE Late Medieval Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 302155 Male H4a1 J-Z1296 0,81 0,02 0,01468 6,67% 45,60
    R1287 Palazzo della Cancelleria US 450 B Petrous Cancelleria *same stratigraphic unit as R1286 1411 - 1447 calCE Medieval Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 361495 Male T2b R-U152 1,14 0,01 0,00558 7,84% 51,19
    R1288 Palazzo della Cancelleria US 450 C Petrous Cancelleria *same stratigraphic unit as R1286 1411 - 1447 calCE Medieval Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 358402 Female I3a1 -- 1,14 0,01 -- 7,09% 69,41
    R1289 Palazzo della Cancelleria US 450 D Petrous Cancelleria *same stratigraphic unit as R1286 1411 - 1447 calCE Medieval Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 296503 Female K1a4a1 -- 0,76 0,01 -- 8,30% 39,21
    R1286 Palazzo della Cancelleria US 450 A Petrous Cancelleria Yes 1411 - 1447 calCE Medieval Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 349979 Male H1g1 I-M253 1,05 0,01 0,00727 6,55% 66,32
    R1219 Cancelleria US 17 1 Petrous Cancelleria Yes 1417 - 1463 calCE Renaissance Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 407981 Male H11a E-V13 1,61 0,01 0,00629 7,72% 51,69
    R1220 Cancelleria US 17 2 Petrous Cancelleria No 1480-1490 CE Renaissance Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 338580 Male T2f1a1 R-P312 1,02 0,01 0,00784 9,57% 25,35
    R1221 Cancelleria US 17 6 Petrous Cancelleria No 1480-1490 CE Renaissance Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 378458 Male H1e2 J-L70 1,32 0,01 0,00753 7,05% 56,16
    R1224 Cancelleria US 17 38 Petrous Cancelleria No 1480-1490 CE Renaissance Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 344821 Male T2b4f G-CTS10391 1,10 0,01 0,00928 7,34% 32,73
    R970 49/G/72 Petrous Tivoli Palazzo Cianti No 1600-1700 CE Renaissance Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 259155 Male J1b3 J-L70 0,61 0,01 0,01210 12,68% 14,10
    R973 45/G/72 Petrous Tivoli Palazzo Cianti No 1600-1700 CE Renaissance Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 353636 Female HV+16311 -- 1,15 0,01 -- 9,99% 49,88
    R969 34/G/73 Petrous Tivoli Palazzo Cianti No 1600-1700 CE Renaissance Medieval/EarlyModern 30-min (partial) 454015 Male U5b J-M67 2,38 0,01 0,00504 4,26% 70,13

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    Could someone post the links to the BAM files so I can have a look? I want to look at the mtDNA markers for the two Mesolithic U5b and the U8b samples..

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    Quote Originally Posted by hartaisarlag View Post
    So far I can track down 1 Black Sea Turk, 5 Balkars, 1 Brit. Will start doing a deep dive on other R-F1019's out there. Thank you.

    To quote the Adam Sandler Hanukkah song, "... not a Jew".
    I've read that the R-F19019* Turk from Samsun has roots from Northern Greece, his paternal ancestors were Balkan Turks.

    There are some Greeks who are F2935+, though I'm not sure if they are F19019+.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    I've read that the R-F19019* Turk from Samsun has roots from Northern Greece, his paternal ancestors were Balkan Turks.

    There are some Greeks who are F2935+, though I'm not sure if they are F19019+.
    That's good to know. Didn't know about the Greeks, but now I see a user here who posted about his roots / membership in this branch earlier this year.
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    Just finished to download the BAM File of R473, now I will soon upload on Gedmatch.

    It's an etruscan sample !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf View Post
    List of sample dates:

     
    R11 BCE:9958
    R7 BCE:8732
    R15 BCE:7175
    R2 BCE:6034
    R3 BCE:5780
    R8 BCE:5774
    R10 BCE:5679
    R9 BCE:5546
    R18 BCE:5349
    R19 BCE:5283
    R17 BCE:5274
    R16 BCE:5258
    R6 BCE:5210
    R24 BCE:3500
    R1014 BCE:3000
    R4 BCE:2915
    R5 BCE:2890
    R25 BCE:2200
    R26 BCE:2200
    R27 BCE:2200
    R28 BCE:2200
    R29 BCE:2200
    R22 BCE:1946
    R1 BCE:885
    R1015 BCE:850
    R1016 BCE:800
    R850 BCE:650
    R851 BCE:650
    R1021 BCE:650
    R473 BCE:650
    R474 BCE:650
    R475 BCE:650
    R435 BCE:400
    R437 BCE:300
    R42 CE:71
    R80 CE:77
    R39 CE:99
    R436 CE:100
    R111 CE:100
    R113 CE:100
    R114 CE:100
    R115 CE:100
    R116 CE:100
    R131 CE:100
    R75 CE:100
    R76 CE:100
    R78 CE:100
    R81 CE:100
    R1551 CE:133
    R835 CE:137
    R836 CE:137
    R1547 CE:137
    R1548 CE:137
    R1549 CE:137
    R1550 CE:137
    R123 CE:145
    R66 CE:200
    R67 CE:200
    R68 CE:200
    R69 CE:200
    R70 CE:200
    R71 CE:200
    R72 CE:200
    R73 CE:200
    R50 CE:190
    R125 CE:200
    R128 CE:200
    R132 CE:231
    R49 CE:200
    R51 CE:200
    R37 CE:201
    R38 CE:201
    R40 CE:201
    R41 CE:201
    R43 CE:201
    R44 CE:201
    R45 CE:201
    R1543 CE:201
    R1544 CE:201
    R1545 CE:201
    R47 CE:283
    R126 CE:287
    R130 CE:400
    R133 CE:400
    R134 CE:400
    R136 CE:400
    R137 CE:400
    R31 CE:376
    R35 CE:500
    R36 CE:500
    R105 CE:500
    R106 CE:500
    R107 CE:500
    R108 CE:500
    R109 CE:500
    R110 CE:500
    R30 CE:500
    R32 CE:500
    R33 CE:500
    R34 CE:500
    R117 CE:500
    R118 CE:500
    R120 CE:500
    R121 CE:500
    R122 CE:500
    R104 CE:500
    R1283 CE:859
    R60 CE:905
    R59 CE:905
    R63 CE:990
    R1285 CE:1005
    R58 CE:1100
    R57 CE:1110
    R65 CE:1110
    R64 CE:1110
    R62 CE:1215
    R1290 CE:1348
    R52 CE:1355
    R53 CE:1355
    R55 CE:1355
    R56 CE:1355
    R61 CE:1355
    R54 CE:1355
    R1287 CE:1429
    R1288 CE:1429
    R1289 CE:1429
    R1286 CE:1429
    R1219 CE:1440
    R1220 CE:1485
    R1221 CE:1485
    R1224 CE:1485
    R970 CE:1650
    R973 CE:1650
    R969 CE:1650


    There are no samples from 300 BC to 71 AD.
    R850 BCE:650
    R851 BCE:650
    R1021 BCE:650
    R473 BCE:650
    R474 BCE:650
    R475 BCE:650
    R435 BCE:400
    R437 BCE:300

    ^^^ All of these IA-Republican samples could potentially have East Mediterranean admixture, but it's more likely that R437, which is dated to 300 BCE, or the beginning of the 3rd century BCE, would have such admixture than the other earlier ones. And indeed, out of all the samples from the mid-7th century BCE, only one, R850, has East Mediterranean admixture, while "all" of the samples from the beginning of the 3rd century BCE onward appear to have such admixture:

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    two individuals from Latin sites (R437 and R850) can be modeled as a mixture between
    local people and an ancient Near Eastern
    population (best approximated by Bronze Age
    Armenian or Iron Age Anatolian; tables S17
    and S18)."

    I know it's a weak argument, since in this case, N=1 when it comes to 3rd century BCE Roman samples, but I would bet my money that if we had 6 samples dated to that period, we would see many more of them plotted like R437.

    R475 is an Etruscan sample btw:

    "An Etruscan individual (R475)"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erikl86 View Post
    R850 BCE:650
    R851 BCE:650
    R1021 BCE:650
    R473 BCE:650
    R474 BCE:650
    R475 BCE:650
    R435 BCE:400
    R437 BCE:300

    ^^^ All of these IA-Republican samples could potentially have East Mediterranean admixture, but it's more likely that R437, which is dated to 300 BCE, or the beginning of the 3rd century BCE, would have such admixture than the other earlier ones. And indeed, out of all the samples from the mid-7th century BCE, only one, R850, has East Mediterranean admixture, while "all" of the samples from the beginning of the 3rd century BCE onward appear to have such admixture:

    "
    two individuals from Latin sites (R437 and R850) can be modeled as a mixture between
    local people and an ancient Near Eastern
    population (best approximated by Bronze Age
    Armenian or Iron Age Anatolian; tables S17
    and S18)."

    I know it's a weak argument, since in this case, N=1 when it comes to 3rd century BCE Roman samples, but I would bet my money that if we had 6 samples dated to that period, we would see many more of them plotted like R437.

    R475 is an Etruscan sample btw:

    "An Etruscan individual (R475)"
    473 isn't etruscan also ? He comes from Civitavecchia (anyway since Etruscans and Latins are nearly the same and this is not an outlier, that will give us an idea of where these republican era samples would plot)

    Civitavecchia Date Range: 700 BCE - 600 BCE Individuals: R473, R474, R475

    La Mattonara is an Iron Age Etruscan necropolis near the coastal town of Civitavecchia, on the Tyrrhenian Sea (129, 130). Archaeological evidence, such as storage rooms for traded goods and pits for salting and preserving seafood, suggests the economy of this and other coastal Etruscan towns was based on long-distance trade and the exploitation of marine resources (131). Civitavecchia later served as a major Roman port (built between 103 and 110 CE) and was known at the time as Centum Cellae.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genetique View Post
    473 isn't etruscan also ? He comes from Civitavecchia (anyway since Etruscans and Latins are nearly the same and this is not an outlier, that will give us an idea of where these republican era samples would plot)

    Civitavecchia Date Range: 700 BCE - 600 BCE Individuals: R473, R474, R475

    La Mattonara is an Iron Age Etruscan necropolis near the coastal town of Civitavecchia, on the Tyrrhenian Sea (129, 130). Archaeological evidence, such as storage rooms for traded goods and pits for salting and preserving seafood, suggests the economy of this and other coastal Etruscan towns was based on long-distance trade and the exploitation of marine resources (131). Civitavecchia later served as a major Roman port (built between 103 and 110 CE) and was known at the time as Centum Cellae.
    It is, but R475 is an Etruscan outlier, since it's heavily admixed with North African ancestry. Most likely result of some Carthaginian influence among Etruscans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erikl86 View Post
    R850 BCE:650
    R851 BCE:650
    R1021 BCE:650
    R473 BCE:650
    R474 BCE:650
    R475 BCE:650
    R435 BCE:400
    R437 BCE:300

    ^^^ All of these IA-Republican samples could potentially have East Mediterranean admixture, but it's more likely that R437, which is dated to 300 BCE, or the beginning of the 3rd century BCE, would have such admixture than the other earlier ones. And indeed, out of all the samples from the mid-7th century BCE, only one, R850, has East Mediterranean admixture, while "all" of the samples from the beginning of the 3rd century BCE onward appear to have such admixture:

    "
    two individuals from Latin sites (R437 and R850) can be modeled as a mixture between
    local people and an ancient Near Eastern
    population (best approximated by Bronze Age
    Armenian or Iron Age Anatolian
    ; tables S17
    and S18)."

    I know it's a weak argument, since in this case, N=1 when it comes to 3rd century BCE Roman samples, but I would bet my money that if we had 6 samples dated to that period, we would see many more of them plotted like R437.

    R475 is an Etruscan sample btw:

    "An Etruscan individual (R475)"
    Well, Bronze Age Armenians were not that Near Eastern, they had an amount of Steppe ancestry ranging from 21 to 27%. As for Anatolia_IA, the two samples that make up that average are actually modern Anatolian Turks. To better analyze the Italic samples, we would need the coordinates.

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