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    ~30% of ancient Roman samples (0-400 AD) from Viminacium , and ~25% of Roman/Early Medieval samples (300-700 AD) from Timacum Minus are E-V13.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viminacium

    Viminacium or Viminatium was a major city (provincial capital) and military camp of the Roman province of Moesia (today's Serbia), and the capital of Moesia Superior.

    The site is located 12 km (7.5 mi) from the modern town of Kostolac in Eastern Serbia. The city dates back to the 1st century AD, and at its peak it is believed to have had 40,000 inhabitants, making it one of the biggest cities of that time. It lies on the Roman road Via Militaris. Viminacium was devastated by Huns in the 5th century, but was later rebuilt by Justinian. It was completely destroyed with the arrival of Slavs in the 6th century.

    Viminacium holds a distinction of having the largest number of graves discovered in any Roman archaeological site. As of 2018, 15,000 graves have been discovered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    ~30% of ancient Roman samples (0-400 AD) from Viminacium , and ~25% of Roman/Early Medieval samples (300-700 AD) from Timacum Minus are E-V13.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viminacium



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timacum_Minus
    Interesting. How do you know this, is this from an upcoming aDNA study or something like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trojet View Post
    Interesting. How do you know this, is this from an upcoming aDNA study or something like that?
    Nowhere to be found officially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trojet View Post
    Interesting. How do you know this, is this from an upcoming aDNA study or something like that?
    Yes, it's from an upcoming aDNA paper by Reich's team. Since most, if not all sequencing and subsequent analyses are done (autosomal, Y-DNA, mtDNA), I hope we'll see the paper published this year. As per usual, they didn't bother much with Y chromosome, so we'll have to wait BAM files to discover deeper subclades. There are also J2b2a-L283 and R1b-Z2103>CTS1450 samples from Timacum Minus, dated 300-500 AD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Yes, it's from an upcoming aDNA paper by Reich's team. Since most, if not all sequencing and subsequent analyses are done (autosomal, Y-DNA, mtDNA), I hope we'll see the paper published this year. As per usual, they didn't bother much with Y chromosome, so we'll have to wait BAM files to discover deeper subclades. There are also J2b2a-L283 and R1b-Z2103>CTS1450 samples from Timacum Minus, dated 300-500 AD.
    Very interesting!
    Could you tell us about the total number of sequenced aDNA samples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bane View Post
    Very interesting!
    Could you tell us about the total number of sequenced aDNA samples?
    I see 75 samples, one of which is previously published Hun/Gepid sample Vim2b from Viminacium, so 74 new samples. Of those, 52 are from Viminacium (four necropoli: Pirivoj (100-400 AD) - 19; Rit (0-300 AD) - 13; Više Grobalja (0-300 AD) - 10 and Pećine (0-300 AD) - 10) and 17 from Timacum Minus (two necropoli: Slog (300-500 AD) - 11 and Kuline (400-700 AD) - 6). There are also 1 Roman and 1 Late Medieval sample from Lepenski Vir, 2 Gepid samples (300-500 AD) from Mediana (near Niš/Naisos) and 1 Medieval (850-950 AD) sample from Gomolava (this one belongs to I2-Din, so he's most likely Slavic).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Yes, it's from an upcoming aDNA paper by Reich's team. Since most, if not all sequencing and subsequent analyses are done (autosomal, Y-DNA, mtDNA), I hope we'll see the paper published this year. As per usual, they didn't bother much with Y chromosome, so we'll have to wait BAM files to discover deeper subclades. There are also J2b2a-L283 and R1b-Z2103>CTS1450 samples from Timacum Minus, dated 300-500 AD.
    Dang! This is the type of news I have been waiting for

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    ~30% of ancient Roman samples (0-400 AD) from Viminacium , and ~25% of Roman/Early Medieval samples (300-700 AD) from Timacum Minus are E-V13.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viminacium



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timacum_Minus
    Interesting, so we can say for sure that E-V13 was found in pretty high frequencies in the Balkans (Central Balkans at least) during the Roman period and Early Medieval. Some info in regards to Viminacium https://www.academia.edu/2274871/Ter..._Slavic_Tribes. From what I gathered, a number of the inhabitants originally came from other Balkan provinces such as Dalmatia, Pannonia, Thrace and Macedonia. Some even came from the Asian provinces such as Pontus and Syria. Most seem to have been Latin speaking locals.
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    Ydna: J1>P58>YSC234>ZS241>BY32817 (Y179831)

    Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS1273*

    Mtdna: T1a1l

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Yes, it's from an upcoming aDNA paper by Reich's team. Since most, if not all sequencing and subsequent analyses are done (autosomal, Y-DNA, mtDNA), I hope we'll see the paper published this year. As per usual, they didn't bother much with Y chromosome, so we'll have to wait BAM files to discover deeper subclades. There are also J2b2a-L283 and R1b-Z2103>CTS1450 samples from Timacum Minus, dated 300-500 AD.
    What about any Bronze to Iron Age samples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trojet View Post
    What about any Bronze to Iron Age samples?
    I wish they've sequenced those also, but I'm not aware there will be Bronze and/or Iron Age samples featured in this paper.
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