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    En North alom, de North venom
    En North fum naiz, en North manom

    (Roman de Rou, Wace, 1160-1170)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andour View Post
    Je me permets de réitérer une requête déjà postée plus haut, et restée sans réponse.

    Y a-t-il eu des coordonnées G25 publiées quelque part sur Anthro (ou ailleurs) pour quelques-uns de ces nouveaux échantillons italiens ?

    Si oui, quelqu'un pourrait-il poster un lien, svp ?
    Tu peux les récupérer dans les fichiers sur le site de Davidski (scaled et unscaled).
    http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/

    Edit : Trop lent !

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    J'ai comparé 6 échantillons de la période impériale, et j'ai choisi parmi les plus gros "outliers", ils sont tous très proches des turcs génétiquement. Il y a aussi des populations du Caucase (comme les azéris ou les circassiens) qui apparaissent en bon ordre. Moins vrai pour le Levant ou d'autres régions orientales qui sont plus éloignés.

    Je pense raisonnablement qu'on a à faire à des grecs anatoliens ou autrement dit, des anatoliens hellénisés.
    Last edited by Genetique; 11-11-2019 at 11:37 PM.

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    @Anglesqueville, Fitis

    Merci pour le lien. J'avais fureté ici et là, en vain. Eurogenes, bien sûr !
    Immi uiros rios toutias rias

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitis View Post
    Helgenes, si tu as le temps, pourrais-tu tester sur les coordonnées de mes parents (père Limousin / mère Bourgogne-Rhône) ?
    Merci beaucoup !

    Code:
    Fitis_Mom_scaled,0.127482,0.137096,0.048271,0.011628,0.040623,0.002789,0.000235,0.001385,0.012067,0.021504,-0.00747,0.004496,-0.011447,-0.016239,0.005022,0.011403,0.008084,0.003167,0.001634,0.003126,0.002995,0.001978,-0.000123,0.006507,-0.000239
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    Fitis_Father_scaled,0.126344,0.148267,0.050911,0.017442,0.040623,0.003626,0.005405,0.007846,0.022089,0.025331,-0.001461,0.007044,-0.013231,-0.01156,0.009772,-0.001193,-0.008866,0.005194,-0.002011,0.004252,0.002496,-0.000989,0.005546,0.005302,-0.005269
    Avec un peu de retard...mais je ne suis pas du soir !!!...désolé

    Il faut tenir compte aussi de England-Roman, qui lui aussi est de l'Est méditerranée et doit servir d'extra au Rome Imperiale



    Fitis_Father_scaled
    Distance: 1.7792% / 0.01779232

    37.4 England_Roman
    34.4 Iberia_East_IA
    13.8 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    6.2 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    4.2 Iberia_North_CA
    4.0 England_Roman_o

    Fitis_Mom_scaled
    Distance: 0.9659% / 0.00965852

    37.2 Iberia_East_IA
    30.4 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    14.2 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    9.2 England_Roman
    9.0 Hallstatt_Bylany
    Recent Ancestry, full Normand. Known Genealogy 7/8 of the Cotentin peninsula 1/8 region of Coutances. Unfortunately, there are many missing branches on the maternal side.

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    Hum... quant à moi j'ai traîné des pieds pour lancer le téléchargement des data sur Stanford, et voilà: le lien est cassé. Saletés de Romains!

    edit: problème réglé à peine posé, et grâce à David comme toujours.
    Last edited by anglesqueville; 11-12-2019 at 08:59 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anglesqueville View Post
    Hum... quant à moi j'ai traîné des pieds pour lancer le téléchargement des data sur Stanford, et voilà: le lien est cassé. Saletés de Romains!

    edit: problème réglé à peine posé, et grâce à David comme toujours.
    Tu as vu David a ajouté tout un tas de français à G25
    Et bien sur pas de Normands !!!!...la honte

    Edit: je n'avais pas vu ton post
    Last edited by Helgenes50; 11-12-2019 at 11:02 AM.
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    Ce que cela donne avec les French de Biagini

    Target: French_South
    Distance: 0.7223% / 0.00722336

    35.6 Iberia_East_IA
    29.4 England_Roman
    20.6 Iberia_North_CA
    5.6 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    4.2 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    3.0 Hallstatt_Bylany
    1.6 England_Roman_o

    Target: French_Brittany
    Distance: 0.8779% / 0.00877875

    71.2 England_Roman
    18.0 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    9.2 Iberia_East_IA
    1.6 Iberia_North_CA

    Target: French_Paris
    Distance: 0.9812% / 0.00981172

    41.0 England_Roman
    31.6 Iberia_East_IA
    15.8 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    8.2 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    3.4 Hallstatt_Bylany

    Target: French_Nord
    Distance: 0.5711% / 0.00571082

    36.4 England_Roman
    24.4 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    14.0 Iberia_East_IA
    13.4 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    9.2 Hallstatt_Bylany
    2.6 Iberia_North_CA

    Target: French_Auvergne
    Distance: 0.4775% / 0.00477525

    32.2 Iberia_East_IA
    23.6 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    20.0 England_Roman
    15.8 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    4.4 Hallstatt_Bylany
    4.0 Iberia_North_CA

    Target: French_Occitanie
    Distance: 0.5059% / 0.00505927

    35.8 England_Roman
    26.2 Iberia_East_IA
    15.4 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    13.0 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    6.6 Iberia_North_CA
    3.0 Hallstatt_Bylany

    Target: French_Provence
    Distance: 0.3844% / 0.00384371

    31.6 Iberia_East_IA
    26.6 England_Roman
    23.8 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    18.0 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna

    Target: French_Prov_Marseille
    Distance: 0.9561% / 0.00956098

    27.2 ITA_Rome_Imperial

    26.8 Iberia_East_IA
    22.0 England_Roman
    22.0 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    2.0 Iberia_North_CA

    Target: French_Corsica
    Distance: 0.8302% / 0.00830219

    46.2 ITA_Rome_Imperial

    20.4 Iberia_East_IA
    16.2 Iberia_North_CA
    14.6 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    2.2 Hallstatt_Bylany
    0.4 England_Roman
    Recent Ancestry, full Normand. Known Genealogy 7/8 of the Cotentin peninsula 1/8 region of Coutances. Unfortunately, there are many missing branches on the maternal side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helgenes50 View Post
    Ce que cela donne avec les French de Biagini

    Target: French_South
    Distance: 0.7223% / 0.00722336

    35.6 Iberia_East_IA
    29.4 England_Roman
    20.6 Iberia_North_CA
    5.6 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    4.2 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    3.0 Hallstatt_Bylany
    1.6 England_Roman_o

    Target: French_Brittany
    Distance: 0.8779% / 0.00877875

    71.2 England_Roman
    18.0 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    9.2 Iberia_East_IA
    1.6 Iberia_North_CA

    Target: French_Paris
    Distance: 0.9812% / 0.00981172

    41.0 England_Roman
    31.6 Iberia_East_IA
    15.8 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    8.2 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    3.4 Hallstatt_Bylany

    Target: French_Nord
    Distance: 0.5711% / 0.00571082

    36.4 England_Roman
    24.4 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    14.0 Iberia_East_IA
    13.4 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    9.2 Hallstatt_Bylany
    2.6 Iberia_North_CA

    Target: French_Auvergne
    Distance: 0.4775% / 0.00477525

    32.2 Iberia_East_IA
    23.6 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    20.0 England_Roman
    15.8 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    4.4 Hallstatt_Bylany
    4.0 Iberia_North_CA

    Target: French_Occitanie
    Distance: 0.5059% / 0.00505927

    35.8 England_Roman
    26.2 Iberia_East_IA
    15.4 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    13.0 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    6.6 Iberia_North_CA
    3.0 Hallstatt_Bylany

    Target: French_Provence
    Distance: 0.3844% / 0.00384371

    31.6 Iberia_East_IA
    26.6 England_Roman
    23.8 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    18.0 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna

    Target: French_Prov_Marseille
    Distance: 0.9561% / 0.00956098

    27.2 ITA_Rome_Imperial

    26.8 Iberia_East_IA
    22.0 England_Roman
    22.0 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    2.0 Iberia_North_CA

    Target: French_Corsica
    Distance: 0.8302% / 0.00830219

    46.2 ITA_Rome_Imperial

    20.4 Iberia_East_IA
    16.2 Iberia_North_CA
    14.6 Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
    2.2 Hallstatt_Bylany
    0.4 England_Roman
    La référence corse a un taux similaire de romain impérial aux régions centrales d'Italie tels que l'Ombrie et la Toscane, rien d'étonnant étant donné leur génétique.

    Le français de Marseille a un score plus haut que Bergamo, Veneto, la référence Italian_Northeast, Trentino Alto Adige par contre.
    Last edited by Genetique; 11-12-2019 at 11:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genetique View Post
    La référence corse a un taux similaire de romain impérial aux régions centrales d'Italie tels que l'Ombrie et la Toscane, rien d'étonnant étant donné leur génétique.

    Le Français de Marseille a un score plus haut que Bergamo, Veneto, la référence Italian_Northeast, Trentino Alto Adige
    En effet tout ça est très logique
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