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Thread: Has Ulster Scots dna been “bred” out?

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    I have only found ONE convert line in my tree, the McSheffrey’s and that conversion was way back in the late 1700’s.

    My GGG grandmother was an Irwin. I believe her to be descendant of the above Irwin and Wylie movement from Glencoe/Aberdeenshire.

    I think my Thompson line is from Lancashire due to an abnormal number of Thompson matches from there.
    Last edited by Nqp15hhu; 11-16-2019 at 12:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    I have only found ONE convert line in my tree, the McSheffrey’s and that conversion was way back in the late 1700’s.

    My GGG grandmother was an Irwin. I believe her to be descendant of the above Irwin and Wylie movement from Glencoe/Aberdeenshire.

    I think my Thompson line is from Lancashire due to an abnormal number of Thompson matches from there.
    I have McDowell ancestors who were intermarried with the Irvine and Wylie families in Glencoe, Raloo Parish.. I see the same family names intermarrying over and over and remaining together from Scotland to Ireland to the US. I’d love to visit some of those cemeteries over there. I’ve read in Raloo parish, some of the oldest McDowell headstones over there contain the coats of arms of the McDowells of Garthland which would be cool to see.
    AncestryDNA results:
    England, Wales, & NW Europe 73%
    Ireland & Scotland 18%
    Germanic Europe 5%
    France 3%
    Cameroon, Congo 1%

    23&me results:
    British & Irish 62.9%
    French & German 15.0%
    Scandinavian 0.9%
    Broadly Northwestern European 19.4%
    Broadly Southern European 0.9%
    Broadly European 0.1%
    Sub-Saharan African 0.7%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    I have only found ONE convert line in my tree, the McSheffrey’s and that conversion was way back in the late 1700’s.

    My GGG grandmother was an Irwin. I believe her to be descendant of the above Irwin and Wylie movement from Glencoe/Aberdeenshire.

    I think my Thompson line is from Lancashire due to an abnormal number of Thompson matches from there.
    It was merely a suggestion by a user that there could be convert lines that might increase the Irish percentage. You suggested the same to me by saying, 'You must have a sizeable chunk of Protestant ancestry. How can you not be aware of that?' Actually that wasn't even a suggestion but saying that I do have it which is telling me that I don't know my own tree or ancestry. I didn't take offence to it. Questions were asked and people made suggestions. I think that the answer that is going to be the most satisfactory is that Ireland and Scotland are too similar to be separated correctly by Living DNA and Ancestry (who don't attempt to split it).
    Last edited by FionnSneachta; 11-16-2019 at 01:02 AM.
    Ancestry: Ireland (Paper trail ≅ 81.25% Roscommon, 12.5% Galway, 6.25% Mayo)
    Y-DNA (P) ancestor (Y): Kelly b. c1830 in Co. Roscommon (Uí Maine)
    mtDNA (P) ancestor: Fleming b. c1831 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA (M) ancestor: McDermott b. c1814 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA Great grandfather: Connella b. c1798 in Co. Roscommon (T2a1a8)
    Y-DNA 2x great grandfather: Higgins b. c1816 in Co. Roscommon (R-DF109)
    Y-DNA 3x great grandfather: Fleming b. c1829 in Co. Roscommon (R-Z23534)

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