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    Quote Originally Posted by Huijbregts View Post
    When I look at the map #483, I see the usual suspects British and Swedish, but also a blob in Bavaria. Maybe that is ancestry of DEU_MA.
    This Bavaria blob is also obvious in NH_dad#455, Aye23#446, Tolan#438, Conqueror#446, DavidC#423. And also in my countryman Radboud, although he is mapped very differently.
    You should know that there is no Bavarian average. Only German.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by macman View Post
    Can you make new map for me if you have time ?
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    can you "blue map" me and my parents when you have time? Thanks!



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    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    You should know that there is no Bavarian average. Only German.
    Yes, that is the way it is, We have only the labels 'German' and 'German_East', for a substantial variance of Global 25 scores.
    What interests me that this 'Bavarian' blob is visible in many of the blue maps.
    Do you have any idea what feature of your algorithm has produced this? It might be informative.

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    any chance you could run the blue map for me too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huijbregts View Post
    When I look at the map #483, I see the usual suspects British and Swedish, but also a blob in Bavaria. Maybe that is ancestry of DEU_MA.
    This Bavaria blob is also obvious in NH_dad#455, Aye23#446, Tolan#438, Conqueror#446, DavidC#423. And also in my countryman Radboud, although he is mapped very differently.
    That seemingly inexplicable Bavarian blob does seem to suggest something of a more ancient migratory nature as I don't have any known ancestry from Bavaria, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    Nice Ph2ter, welkom in Nederland Mitch
    Yes my mostly British Red and German Yellow mixture is looking rather Dutch Orange
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huijbregts View Post
    Yes, that is the way it is, We have only the labels 'German' and 'German_East', for a substantial variance of Global 25 scores.
    What interests me that this 'Bavarian' blob is visible in many of the blue maps.
    Do you have any idea what feature of your algorithm has produced this? It might be informative.
    And again we see that Sire there are no Belgians!...euhm Dutch. Radboud ends up in Norway, Finn/Mom have a shift to Sweden, you end up in the corner of Scotland....what a mess Only Finn Dad and of course Mitchell seem to be most of all Dutch....(and in the case of Mitch its a kind of middle ground).
    Last edited by Finn; 11-29-2019 at 07:32 PM.

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    Hi ph2ter. Nice work! I have my mother's coordinates, new FF chip, if you wouldn't mind

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    Scandinavian-love structure

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    Anglo-Saxon from recent rural English (Derbyshire/Staffordshire) with possible trace Danish
    1/16 Bronze Age Swedish from Finland/Karelia
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    I see I am late to the game.... curious to see

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