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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    Appreciate if mine can be done ?

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Vettor_scaled,0.120652,0.147252,0.029415,-0.001615,0.032006,0.001673,0.00235,0.004846,0.0102 26,0.018588,-0.001786,0.000899,-0.009812,0.003028,-0.004343,-0.011005,-0.014081,0.002787,0.007165,-0.00988,-0.004367,0.005564,-0.004807,0.002892,0.001078

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Vettor,0.0106,0.0145,0.0078,-0.0005,0.0104,0.0006,0.001,0.0021,0.005,0.0102,-0.0011,0.0006,-0.0066,0.0022,-0.0032,-0.0083,-0.0108,0.0022,0.0057,-0.0079,-0.0035,0.0045,-0.0039,0.0024,0.0009
    Distance: 1.7751%/0.01775142
    39.2, Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
    26.0, Slavic_Migration
    25.4, Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World
    8.6, Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
    0.8, Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
    Ydna: J1>P58>YSC234>ZS241>BY32817 (Y179831)

    Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS1273*

    Mtdna: T1a1l

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  3. #12
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    Interesting calculator could someone run mine. Thanks much!
    PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC12 ,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC22 ,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Anthony_C_scaled,0.121791,0.150298,0.010936,-0.026486,0.022773,-0.005299,-0.005405,-0.002077,-0.001227,0.022051,0.005521,0.004346,-0.006392,0.012524,-0.017236,-0.010475,0.001304,0.003294,0.006034,-0.009129,-0.001747,0.003957,0.008258,0.007832,0.001197

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    Anthony_C,0.0107,0.0148,0.0029,-0.0082,0.0074,-0.0019,-0.0023,-0.0009,-0.0006,0.0121,0.0034,0.0029,-0.0043,0.0091,-0.0127,-0.0079,0.001,0.0026,0.0048,-0.0073,-0.0014,0.0032,0.0067,0.0065,0.001

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    Target: Anthony_C_scaled
    Distance: 1.4296% / 0.01429592
    43.0 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
    22.2 Slavic_Migration
    16.6 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
    12.6 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
    5.6 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World

    Target: GS_scaled
    Distance: 1.3911% / 0.01391056
    33.0 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
    29.8 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
    18.6 Slavic_Migration
    18.4 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
    0.2 Mongols_et_al.


    Greeks aren't very Greek on this test. I am not sure how well trying to separate Myceneans/Thracians/Illyrians actually works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greekscholar View Post
    Target: Anthony_C_scaled
    Distance: 1.4296% / 0.01429592
    43.0 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
    22.2 Slavic_Migration
    16.6 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
    12.6 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
    5.6 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World

    Target: GS_scaled
    Distance: 1.3911% / 0.01391056
    33.0 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
    29.8 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
    18.6 Slavic_Migration
    18.4 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
    0.2 Mongols_et_al.


    Greeks aren't very Greek on this test. I am not sure how well trying to separate Myceneans/Thracians/Illyrians actually works.
    Yes. Most illogical is the fact that other than me so far, no Balkanite gets any Illyrian IF at all. Yet Italians are getting it. Which is why I am not so sure admixture levels are always indicative of actual relatedness. IBD sharing seems to be the most effective for that from what I have been told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    Yes. Most illogical is the fact that other than me so far, no Balkanite gets any Illyrian IF at all. Yet Italians are getting it. Which is why I am not so sure admixture levels are always indicative of actual relatedness. IBD sharing seems to be the most effective for that from what I have been told.
    Italians will always get dalmatian, liburnian , nori tribes since the late bronze age......there are even dalmatians as emperors of the roman empire


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-CTS6397 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    Appreciate if mine can be done ?

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Vettor_scaled,0.120652,0.147252,0.029415,-0.001615,0.032006,0.001673,0.00235,0.004846,0.0102 26,0.018588,-0.001786,0.000899,-0.009812,0.003028,-0.004343,-0.011005,-0.014081,0.002787,0.007165,-0.00988,-0.004367,0.005564,-0.004807,0.002892,0.001078

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Vettor,0.0106,0.0145,0.0078,-0.0005,0.0104,0.0006,0.001,0.0021,0.005,0.0102,-0.0011,0.0006,-0.0066,0.0022,-0.0032,-0.0083,-0.0108,0.0022,0.0057,-0.0079,-0.0035,0.0045,-0.0039,0.0024,0.0009
    With 0 pen:

    Target: Vettor_scaled
    Distance: 1.7751% / 0.01775142
    39.2 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
    26.0 Slavic_Migration
    25.4 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World
    8.6 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
    0.8 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
    distance%=4.6465"
    Barcin_N,47.2
    Yamnaya_Samara,41.4
    WHG,10.6
    Ethiopia_4500BP,0.8

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    My dads and a friend of mines. Both Croatian-Serbs.


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    Target: Thracian_scaled
    Distance: 1.9028% / 0.01902791
    38.6 Slavic_Migration
    31.6 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
    26.0 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
    3.8 Mongols_et_al.

    R (pen=0.001)

    [1] "distance%=2.7349"

    Thracian_scaled

    Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World,61.8
    Slavic_Migration,21.6
    Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements,14.2
    Mongols_et_al.,2.4

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    Results:
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    Target: dosas_scaled
    Distance: 3.1169% / 0.03116912
    44.8	Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
    39.0	Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
    14.2	Slavic_Migration
    1.4	Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
    0.6	Mongols_et_al.
    I don't think it works for me, I need to add RUS_Alan_ to get a good fit:

    Code:
    Target: dosas_scaled
    Distance: 2.1898% / 0.02189794
    36.4	RUS_Alan_MA
    20.6	Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
    18.0	Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
    16.8	Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
    8.2	Slavic_Migration
    dosas: 56.25% Greek_Macedonia + 43.75% Greek_Trabzon @ 1.769
    wife: 50% English + 50% Irish @ 1.837
    kid1: 56.25% English + 43.75% Greek_Cappadocia @ 1.817
    kid2: 56.25% English_Cornwall + 43.75% Greek_Cappadocia @ 1.866

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    Quote Originally Posted by digital_noise View Post
    With 0 pen:

    Target: Vettor_scaled
    Distance: 1.7751% / 0.01775142
    39.2 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
    26.0 Slavic_Migration
    25.4 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World
    8.6 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
    0.8 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
    Thanks

    Looks like all northern balkan lands


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-CTS6397 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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