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    Khatris in Indian Punjab don't have as much power. However, they are the dominant caste in Delhi, probably the biggest industrialist/ businessmen. A lot of New Delhi was also settled by West Punjabi settlers. Delhi NCR's economy is huge - $370 billion.
    I'd say Khatris in Punjab are one of the richest communities. It's only recent media representation of khatris have made them stereotypical (not true at all). In Ludhiana, a major Punjab city for business khatris own good number of business.
    Long live Sikh Nation

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    Some UP/Bihar result harappa project
    *components above 2% only noted

    HRP 003 Bihari Brahmin
    S Indian 39%
    Baloch 38%
    Caucasian 5%
    NE Euro 11%
    Med 3%

    HRP 029 UP Brahmin
    S Indian 41%
    Baloch 37%
    Caucasian 7%
    NE Euro 11%

    HRP 032 Bihari Kayastha
    S Indian 53%
    Baloch 33%
    NE Euro 7%

    HRP 052 UP Kayastha
    S Indian 47%
    Baloch 38%
    Caucasian 5%
    NE Euro 3%

    HRP 063 UP Brahmin
    S Indian 40%
    Baloch 37%
    Caucasian 7%
    NE Euro 11%

    HRP 098 Bihari Muslim
    S Indian 42%
    Baloch 34%
    Caucasian 9%
    NE Euro 6%
    NE Asian 3%

    HRP 112 Bihari Muslim
    S Indian 42%
    Baloch 3%
    Caucasian 7%
    NE Euro 9%
    SE Asian 3%
    Siberian 3%

    HRP 119 UP Muslim Syed
    S Indian 36%
    Baloch 37%
    Caucasian 7%
    NE Euro 8%
    Med 3%
    SW Asian 4%

    HRP 123 Bihari Muslim
    S Indian 41%
    Baloch 36%
    Caucasian 7%
    NE Euro 8%

    HRP 129 UP Brahmin
    S Indian 37%
    Baloch 38%
    NE Euro 14%
    Med 3%

    HRP 137 Bihari Muslim Syed
    S Indian 42%
    Baloch 35%
    Caucasian 4%
    NE Euro 9%
    SE Asian 3%

    HRP 139 UP Muslim Mughal/Pathan
    S Indian 48%
    Baloch 36%
    Caucasian 7%
    NE Euro 4%
    NE Asian 3%

    After HRP 236 results are noisy with S indian and Baloch at bit low and others a bit high

    HRP 237 Bihari Baniya
    S Indian 47%
    Baloch 31%
    Caucasian 5%
    NE Euro 5%

    HRP 261 UP Muslim Syed
    S Indian 33%
    Baloch 31%
    Caucasian 13%
    NE Euro 7%
    Siberian 3%
    SW Asian 3%

    HRP 311 UP Muslim
    S Indian 33%
    Baloch 33%
    Caucasian 10%
    NE Euro 9%
    Med 4%

    HRP 320 UP Muslim
    S Indian 28%
    Baloch 35%
    Caucasian 12%
    NE Euro 11%
    Siberian 3%
    SW Asian 3%

    HRP 327 Bihari Muslim
    S Indian 48%
    Baloch 28%
    Caucasian 5%
    NE Euro 8%

    HRP 328 UP Pahari Rajput
    S Indian 47%
    Baloch 30%
    Caucasian 3%
    NE Euro 4%
    NE Asian 8%

    HRP 348 Bihari Muslim
    S Indian 46%
    Baloch 32%
    Caucasian 5%
    NE Euro 4%
    NE Asian 4%

    HRP 351 UP Muslim
    S Indian 35%
    Baloch 33%
    Caucasian 12%
    NE Euro 8%
    Beringian 3%

    HRP 357 Delhi Muslim
    S Indian 34%
    Baloch 31%
    Caucasian 15%
    NE Euro 7%
    SE Asian 3%
    Siberian 3%
    SW Asian 3%

    HRP 380 Western UP Brahmin
    S Indian 36%
    Baloch 36%
    Caucasian 11%
    NE Eurp 10%
    Med 4%

    HRP 384 UP Muslim Pathan

    S Indian 29%
    Baloch 32%
    Caucasian 13%
    NE Euro 10%
    MEd 3%

    HRP 386 UP Kayastha
    S Indian 47%
    Baloch 35%
    Caucasian 4%
    NE Euro 5%

    HRP 403 Bihari Kayasth
    S Indian 49%
    Baloch 31%
    Caucasian 6%
    NE Euro 5%
    SE Asian 3%

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMG View Post
    Some UP/Bihar result harappa project
    *components above 2% only noted

    HRP 003 Bihari Brahmin
    S Indian 39%
    Baloch 38%
    Caucasian 5%
    NE Euro 11%
    Med 3%

    HRP 029 UP Brahmin
    S Indian 41%
    Baloch 37%
    Caucasian 7%
    NE Euro 11%

    HRP 032 Bihari Kayastha
    S Indian 53%
    Baloch 33%
    NE Euro 7%

    HRP 052 UP Kayastha
    S Indian 47%
    Baloch 38%
    Caucasian 5%
    NE Euro 3%

    HRP 063 UP Brahmin
    S Indian 40%
    Baloch 37%
    Caucasian 7%
    NE Euro 11%

    HRP 098 Bihari Muslim
    S Indian 42%
    Baloch 34%
    Caucasian 9%
    NE Euro 6%
    NE Asian 3%

    HRP 112 Bihari Muslim
    S Indian 42%
    Baloch 3%
    Caucasian 7%
    NE Euro 9%
    SE Asian 3%
    Siberian 3%

    HRP 119 UP Muslim Syed
    S Indian 36%
    Baloch 37%
    Caucasian 7%
    NE Euro 8%
    Med 3%
    SW Asian 4%

    HRP 123 Bihari Muslim
    S Indian 41%
    Baloch 36%
    Caucasian 7%
    NE Euro 8%

    HRP 129 UP Brahmin
    S Indian 37%
    Baloch 38%
    NE Euro 14%
    Med 3%

    HRP 137 Bihari Muslim Syed
    S Indian 42%
    Baloch 35%
    Caucasian 4%
    NE Euro 9%
    SE Asian 3%

    HRP 139 UP Muslim Mughal/Pathan
    S Indian 48%
    Baloch 36%
    Caucasian 7%
    NE Euro 4%
    NE Asian 3%

    After HRP 236 results are noisy with S indian and Baloch at bit low and others a bit high

    HRP 237 Bihari Baniya
    S Indian 47%
    Baloch 31%
    Caucasian 5%
    NE Euro 5%

    HRP 261 UP Muslim Syed
    S Indian 33%
    Baloch 31%
    Caucasian 13%
    NE Euro 7%
    Siberian 3%
    SW Asian 3%

    HRP 311 UP Muslim
    S Indian 33%
    Baloch 33%
    Caucasian 10%
    NE Euro 9%
    Med 4%

    HRP 320 UP Muslim
    S Indian 28%
    Baloch 35%
    Caucasian 12%
    NE Euro 11%
    Siberian 3%
    SW Asian 3%

    HRP 327 Bihari Muslim
    S Indian 48%
    Baloch 28%
    Caucasian 5%
    NE Euro 8%

    HRP 328 UP Pahari Rajput
    S Indian 47%
    Baloch 30%
    Caucasian 3%
    NE Euro 4%
    NE Asian 8%

    HRP 348 Bihari Muslim
    S Indian 46%
    Baloch 32%
    Caucasian 5%
    NE Euro 4%
    NE Asian 4%

    HRP 351 UP Muslim
    S Indian 35%
    Baloch 33%
    Caucasian 12%
    NE Euro 8%
    Beringian 3%

    HRP 357 Delhi Muslim
    S Indian 34%
    Baloch 31%
    Caucasian 15%
    NE Euro 7%
    SE Asian 3%
    Siberian 3%
    SW Asian 3%

    HRP 380 Western UP Brahmin
    S Indian 36%
    Baloch 36%
    Caucasian 11%
    NE Eurp 10%
    Med 4%

    HRP 384 UP Muslim Pathan

    S Indian 29%
    Baloch 32%
    Caucasian 13%
    NE Euro 10%
    MEd 3%

    HRP 386 UP Kayastha
    S Indian 47%
    Baloch 35%
    Caucasian 4%
    NE Euro 5%

    HRP 403 Bihari Kayasth
    S Indian 49%
    Baloch 31%
    Caucasian 6%
    NE Euro 5%
    SE Asian 3%
    Man Kayasthas are high AF S. Indian same with Rajputs, as for the most of rest it's quite low. Also that Mughal/Pathan guy is definitely not Pathan, fake.
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    That Rajput guy have high NE Asian but still have high S Indian . In gedmatch he will get 50% S Indian. May be he is half something else . Kayastha are south shifted . Our old member redifflal was half Kayasth from Bihar or up and half bengali Brahmin .He was like 50% S Indian .

    Many UP Muslim individuals are north west shifted than Brahmins . Some has few NE Asian and Siberian as well which may indicate Mughal ancestry .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMG View Post
    That Rajput guy have high NE Asian but still have high S Indian . In gedmatch he will get 50% S Indian. May be he is half something else . Kayastha are south shifted . Our old member redifflal was half Kayasth from Bihar or up and half bengali Brahmin .He was like 50% S Indian .

    Many UP Muslim individuals are north west shifted than Brahmins . Some has few NE Asian and Siberian as well which may indicate Mughal ancestry .
    UP Muslims have had alliances to the West for a while. Plus some of them are migrants and moved for administration purposes for the Mughals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMG View Post
    That Rajput guy have high NE Asian but still have high S Indian . In gedmatch he will get 50% S Indian. May be he is half something else . Kayastha are south shifted . Our old member redifflal was half Kayasth from Bihar or up and half bengali Brahmin .He was like 50% S Indian .

    Many UP Muslim individuals are north west shifted than Brahmins . Some has few NE Asian and Siberian as well which may indicate Mughal ancestry .
    Those UP Muslims could have Pathan ancestry. Since many of them settled there it would not be surprising
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    Quote Originally Posted by Censored View Post
    Those UP Muslims could have Pathan ancestry. Since many of them settled there it would not be surprising
    What about UP Shias ? I think they have significant ancestry from Iran like hyderabadi shias

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    Quote Originally Posted by Censored View Post
    Those UP Muslims could have Pathan ancestry. Since many of them settled there it would not be surprising
    UP and Delhi Muslims do have foreign mixing. I met someone from Western UP who's last name was Turkiye. I asked him if he was a Jatt, he said he had some ancestors from Turkey that served in the Mughal courts. Old Delhi Muslims are probably the most foreign ancestry admixed in India. A lot of Muslim food businesses are also setup by them, they brought a lot of Mughali cuisine to the masses in India. They also express the most exotic looking folks. Pathan ancestry is actually lot more common than Central Asian or Middle Eastern or Turkish ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agent_lime View Post
    UP and Delhi Muslims do have foreign mixing. I met someone from Western UP who's last name was Turkiye. I asked him if he was a Jatt, he said he had some ancestors from Turkey that served in the Mughal courts. Old Delhi Muslims are probably the most foreign ancestry admixed in India. A lot of Muslim food businesses are also setup by them, they brought a lot of Mughali cuisine to the masses in India. They also express the most exotic looking folks. Pathan ancestry is actually lot more common than Central Asian or Middle Eastern or Turkish ancestry.
    Yea, but it's not all of them. I met a family from west UP/Delhi area about a year ago and their daughters were darker and more Indian looking than myself, seriously doubtful they had any foreign mixture. That ex president of Pakistan who's name I can't be bothered to look up also was from Delhi, nothing exotic about him. Same goes for Hasan Minhaj.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Censored View Post
    Yea, but it's not all of them. I met a family from west UP/Delhi area about a year ago and their daughters were darker and more Indian looking than myself, seriously doubtful they had any foreign mixture. That ex president of Pakistan who's name I can't be bothered to look up also was from Delhi, nothing exotic about him. Same goes for Hasan Minhaj.
    Obviously not all of them. Plus phenotype is not equal to genetics.

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