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    Living DNA members update

    Got email telling me this . I go to log in, and get a blank white page !
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    Finally managed to lo'gin to see I have 2 profiles. Both are listed as 'testing'. The original paid,Find my past transfer,£29 full results and father's full results have disappeared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    Got email telling me this . I go to log in, and get a blank white page !
    Hi, Firemonkey - Today was my first log-in since last Spring and was surprised to see only one autosomal DNA results page now with only one map - the so-called Complete view - which they did mention in the overview to the update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt_?? View Post
    Hi, Firemonkey - Today was my first log-in since last Spring and was surprised to see only one autosomal DNA results page now with only one map - the so-called Complete view - which they did mention in the overview to the update.
    That's a big loss in my opinion. I preferred the cautious view because I still suspect that the POBI study that LDNA tapped into was right in showing a uniform red for most of England. So I think broad brush strokes give the better picture here. Even trying to differentiate Southeast England from the Northern regions, for example, is problematic in my view.
    Living DNA's former Cautious mode:
    Wales-related ancestry: 86.8%
    Cornwall: 8%
    North England-related ancestry: 5.2%
    Y line: Peak District, England. Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,100 ybp (YFull);
    mtDNA: traces to Glamorgan, Wales
    Mother's Y: traces to Llanvair Discoed, Wales

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonikW View Post
    I preferred the cautious view because I still suspect that the POBI study that LDNA tapped into was right in showing a uniform red for most of England. So I think broad brush strokes give the better picture here. Even trying to differentiate Southeast England from the Northern regions, for example, is problematic in my view.
    Although in my case Cautious view didn't offer much, I couldn't agree more with your reasoning.
    Paper trail ancestry to the best of my knowledge:
    English (possibly containing some Welsh ancestry) 31.25%, Scottish 17.96%, Scotch-Irish 12.5%, Eastern German 12.5%, Eastern European (Likely Polish possibly including Romanian) 12.5%, French 7.81%, Native American (Saulteaux and Assiniboine) 2.34%, and Colonial American, 3.125%, which cannot be traced with certainty. With certainty, there is Dutch (at least 1.36%) and some English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonikW View Post
    That's a big loss in my opinion. I preferred the cautious view because I still suspect that the POBI study that LDNA tapped into was right in showing a uniform red for most of England. So I think broad brush strokes give the better picture here. Even trying to differentiate Southeast England from the Northern regions, for example, is problematic in my view.
    Couldn't agree more, JonikW. Immediately prior to LDNA's 'update', my mum's Cautious view was practically a bang-on match for what we've been able to determine from documentary research across the Isles. Mine has always been a little dodgy as my dad's Finnish contribution to my mix seems to have confused matters Most significantly in our case, the Cautious view gave a much more accurate representation of our Ulster Scots + Cumbrian branch than does the Complete view. It's a shame that's vanished from the system, but I'm glad we took screenshots of the old views.

    Anyone have any news on whether LDNA's 'Ireland' cluster is likely to become more fine-grained than it is at the moment? Currently my sense of things is that 'Ireland' almost pops up in LDNA results if you've got heritage from anywhere on the west coast of Britain from Cornwall to Scotland, as well as Ireland, of course. If they're going to stick with this single view approach, they'll need to get this sorted methinks.

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    Interesting about the Ireland results (and totally agree about the need for the cautious mode).

    They apparently still have not updated my old results -- which remain exactly the same -- since the addition of the Irish panel. As a result, I continue to get no Irish or Scottish results at all (but for a little Orkney), whereas both of my parents do (note: my parents are uploads from FTDNA, mine is an actual LDNA test).

    My dad gets:

    Ireland 5.6%
    North Wales 4.6%
    South Wales 1.6%

    This is interesting since I get more Welsh than him (as well as some Welsh borders), and my Welsh comes from him (and is actually seemingly accurate). Maybe this explains his Ireland result, as misidentified Welsh?

    My mom gets:

    Ireland 6.7%
    Southwest Scotland and Northern Ireland 6%
    South Wales 5.8%
    Northwest Scotland 2.5%

    She does have Irish (Northern) ancestry on paper, so this makes sense. I don't know of any Welsh ancestry but it's possible.

    It continues to miss German, though, as my mother is likely about 50% German and Swedish (she has a grandmother who was Swedish, plus German and Swiss dating from American colonial era), and gets only 15% Swedish, no German.

    So long as they are counting German as English, I suspect it's distorting all of their regional results.

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    So I have been chatting with someone over at Living DNA and here is what I learned.
    The Irish Update still hasn't officially happened, they are only in year 3 of 5 of the project.
    The anticipated new ethnicity update is scheduled to happen around New Years time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daragon39 View Post
    So I have been chatting with someone over at Living DNA and here is what I learned.
    The Irish Update still hasn't officially happened, they are only in year 3 of 5 of the project.
    The anticipated new ethnicity update is scheduled to happen around New Years time.
    Thanks.

    Still I will believe it when I see it.

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