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    Yfull T1a2 ydna matches

    The below link is one of the families that is linked to me in Yfull

    http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~fresh...ine/aqwg01.htm

    and

    https://www.familytreedna.com/public...frame=yresults

    Curtiss is together with me in Ftdna......................Daniel CURTISS b.1652 - Stratford, CT

    Brooks ( Brucke) surname as well........................John/1f Brooks, b. 1640-d 1695 Stratford, CT

    ( Brooks and curtiss are same Ydna and where together as in a family unit about 100 years ago )


    https://www.familytreedna.com/public...ur?iframe=ysnp

    They seem to originate on the Swiss and south-german border areas


    A Frush person is doing By700 so I will get more information , early next year
    Last edited by vettor; 12-09-2019 at 06:44 AM.


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    The below link is one of the families that is linked to me in Yfull

    http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~fresh...ine/aqwg01.htm

    and

    https://www.familytreedna.com/public...frame=yresults

    Curtiss is together with me in Ftdna......................Daniel CURTISS b.1652 - Stratford, CT

    Brooks ( Brucke) surname as well........................John/1f Brooks, b. 1640-d 1695 Stratford, CT

    ( Brooks and curtiss are same Ydna and where together as in a family unit about 100 years ago )


    https://www.familytreedna.com/public...ur?iframe=ysnp

    They seem to originate on the Swiss and south-german border areas


    A Frush person is doing By700 so I will get more information , early next year
    I miss semargyl .............i got the Frush family (below) from that site and the Belgium is from Walloon ............all are snp Z19945

    Last edited by vettor; 12-10-2019 at 04:50 PM.


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    new sample in Yfull is linked in same group as all of the above, is a Pole from old Prusi lands

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Prussians

    https://web.archive.org/web/20040411...s/prussia.html

    https://web.archive.org/web/20040412...~wolf/prussia/

    he is T1a2-Z19945

    most likely ancient west-balt in ethnicity .............but could be german thuringian
    Last edited by vettor; 03-07-2020 at 04:18 PM.


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    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    new sample in Yfull is linked in same group as all of the above, is a Pole from old Prusi lands

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Prussians

    https://web.archive.org/web/20040411...s/prussia.html

    https://web.archive.org/web/20040412...~wolf/prussia/

    he is T1a2-Z19945

    most likely ancient west-balt in ethnicity .............but could be german thuringian
    He is in Polish project and I convinced him to join YFull to see whether he connects with research samples. I am not certain whether he correctly chose a region anyway, I need to ask him.
    Last edited by Artmar; 03-12-2020 at 05:49 PM.
    R1a-Z282>Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>Y33>CTS8816>Y2902>Y3 226>YP5224
    N1c-L1026>CTS10760>VL29>Z4908>L550>L1025>M2783>Z17902> L591>Y5582
    R1a-Z282>Z280>CTS1211>YP1019>YP1020*
    R1b-P312>U152>L2>DF103

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artmar View Post
    He is in Polish project and I convinced him to join YFull to see whether he connects with research samples. I am not certain whether he correctly chose a region anyway, I need to ask him.
    thanks I have spoken to him

    he sits with myself and an american ( ex cornwall England, ex Hanover Germany ) ................the american is related to the Curtiss branch, and Freshour and Frush branches in Hesse germany

    I just want to see if he has snp CTS1848 and then he sits with the Walloon from Belgium .................I am negative for this snp

    Is he from old Prusi lands ? ..............that is pre-prussian


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    thanks I have spoken to him

    he sits with myself and an american ( ex cornwall England, ex Hanover Germany ) ................the american is related to the Curtiss branch, and Freshour and Frush branches in Hesse germany

    I just want to see if he has snp CTS1848 and then he sits with the Walloon from Belgium .................I am negative for this snp

    Is he from old Prusi lands ? ..............that is pre-prussian
    We have recently been split into a new group together , with an ancient italian sample as well .................it is the third branch coming out of Z19945 ..............the new group that we sit under is
    T - BY143483

    I think BY snp's have ftdna origin , unsure


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post

    Is he from old Prusi lands ? ..............that is pre-prussian
    His line is from the province of Lublin but he himself was born in Pomerania and misinterpreted flags. It should be PL-LU.
    R1a-Z282>Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>Y33>CTS8816>Y2902>Y3 226>YP5224
    N1c-L1026>CTS10760>VL29>Z4908>L550>L1025>M2783>Z17902> L591>Y5582
    R1a-Z282>Z280>CTS1211>YP1019>YP1020*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artmar View Post
    His line is from the province of Lublin but he himself was born in Pomerania and misinterpreted flags. It should be PL-LU.
    The T project person from Fydna will push for snp BY143483 to be added to the file away from a private snp

    when this happens, we should see some changes

    what is the difference between Pomerania and Lublin in regards to ethnicy, is there any ?...............I mean in olden times , 1000 years ago ....................IIRC, Pomerania was ethnically west-baltic people (old Prusi)


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    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    The T project person from Fydna will push for snp BY143483 to be added to the file away from a private snp

    when this happens, we should see some changes

    what is the difference between Pomerania and Lublin in regards to ethnicy, is there any ?...............I mean in olden times , 1000 years ago ....................IIRC, Pomerania was ethnically west-baltic people (old Prusi)
    Pomerania has visibly different distribution of some clades of R1a and higher Germanic (Ostsiedlung) influence.
    R1a-Z282>Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>Y33>CTS8816>Y2902>Y3 226>YP5224
    N1c-L1026>CTS10760>VL29>Z4908>L550>L1025>M2783>Z17902> L591>Y5582
    R1a-Z282>Z280>CTS1211>YP1019>YP1020*
    R1b-P312>U152>L2>DF103

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artmar View Post
    Pomerania has visibly different distribution of some clades of R1a and higher Germanic (Ostsiedlung) influence.
    Thanks

    BTW, is the name ....Lamia Poe a slavic name......this person is from slovakia ( ex Austrian galicia )..........https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia_(Eastern_Europe)


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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