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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    As I recall, the paper lists the Late Antiquity samples as dating from 400 - 600 AD. Having a little Italian ancestry, I’ve been using them for a medieval model to try and capture that portion of my DNA.
    As you saw in the first post it did a quite good job as a proxy for my Italian ancestry too. But I find it strange that Firemonkey score that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    As you saw in the first post it did a quite good job as a proxy for my Italian ancestry too. But I find it strange that Firemonkey score that too.
    It actually worked quite well for me, too. Although, it may be a good idea to run a PCA on the group because some of them are very northern and even British like. I removed all of the samples that were tending in that direction.
    Paper Trail: 42.25% English, 31.25% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA(c): 86.3% British Isles (48.6% English, 37.7% Scottish & Irish), 7.8% NW Germanic, 5.9% Europe South (Aegean 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%)
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >FT80854 (circa 1650 AD).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    It actually worked quite well for me, too. Although, it may be a good idea to run a PCA on the group because some of them are very northern and even British like. I removed all of the samples that were tending in that direction.
    Would you mind helping me selection samples to run?
    I thought Icelandic Norse was best proxy for my Swedish ancestry. Since DEU_MA is to south/continental shifted to represent swedish ancestry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    Would you mind helping me selection samples to run?
    I thought Icelandic Norse was best proxy for my Swedish ancestry. Since DEU_MA is to south/continental shifted to represent swedish ancestry.

    I’m not sure that I should be giving anyone advice in this regard. Although, I do think your choice sounds reasonable, considering your ancestry. I also used them in my model, figuring there might be some Norse admixture in my Scottish. Which has shown up in other venues but they didn’t register here.


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    Fit: 1.4649

    England_Briton: 55.6
    German_Medieval: 17.8
    England_Saxon: 13.8
    Viking_Age_Gaelic: 6.6
    Rome_Late_Antiquity: 6.2
    Viking_Age_Norse: 0
    Last edited by JMcB; 12-27-2019 at 05:01 PM.
    Paper Trail: 42.25% English, 31.25% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA(c): 86.3% British Isles (48.6% English, 37.7% Scottish & Irish), 7.8% NW Germanic, 5.9% Europe South (Aegean 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%)
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >FT80854 (circa 1650 AD).

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    Distance: 1.3531% / 0.01353069
    73.6 ITA_Collegno_MA
    14.6 ISL_Viking_Age_Gaelic
    6.6 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
    2.4 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA_o
    2.2 FIN_Levanluhta_IA_o
    0.6 ITA_Collegno_MA_o1

    Target: Tim_G_father_scaled
    Distance: 1.5302% / 0.01530215 | ADC: 0.5x
    81.2 ITA_Collegno_MA
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    3.0 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity

    Target: Tim_G_father_scaled
    Distance: 1.8086% / 0.01808590 | ADC: 1x
    91.8 ITA_Collegno_MA
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    Distance: 2.1095% / 0.02109531 | ADC: 2x
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    Distance: 2.1983% / 0.02198326
    68.6 ISL_Viking_Age_mixed
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    6.8 FIN_Levanluhta_IA_o
    2.8 FIN_Levanluhta_IA
    1.0 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
    0.4 ISL_Viking_Age_Norse

    Target: Tim_Mother_test_Scaled
    Distance: 2.2933% / 0.02293278 | ADC: 0.5x
    80.8 ISL_Viking_Age_mixed
    12.4 ISL_Viking_Age_Gaelic
    5.0 ITA_Collegno_MA
    1.8 FIN_Levanluhta_IA_o

    Target: Tim_Mother_test_Scaled
    Distance: 2.4266% / 0.02426560 | ADC: 1x
    83.8 ISL_Viking_Age_mixed
    16.2 ITA_Collegno_MA

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    Distance: 2.7274% / 0.02727381 | ADC: 2x
    84.8 ISL_Viking_Age_mixed
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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    The only very tenuous ,possible links to North Italy for me are -
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Henry_Gatty

    chr1 Bolzano chr13 Bolzano chr 18 Bolzano

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/18mg...ZztI_LaHp/view
    Gatti = Cats

    https://www.cognomix.it/origine-cognome/gatti.php

    Insubri are the ancient people of Lombardy before the Lombards arrived

    https://www.cognomix.it/mappe-dei-co...italiani/GATTI
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    Back to the subject.
    Can somebody with more knowledge help me?
    Is mine and Firemonkeys modelling good ? How can he and his family score "Italic" without any Italian ancestry?
    Is it like I wrote, Just a proxy for more French(Continental) admixture into Britian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    Back to the subject.
    Can somebody with more knowledge help me?
    Is mine and Firemonkeys modelling good ? How can he and his family score "Italic" without any Italian ancestry?
    Is it like I wrote, Just a proxy for more French(Continental) admixture into Britian?
    I'm not sure there is a total lack of Italian ancestry , but it may be so far back that for DNA purposes it's been washed out . I get very little French with Poi's runners .
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