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Thread: How much do you know about the y-haplogroups in your pedigree?

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    My closest known ones:
    R1a-Y2613 - Slovenia
    C-Y11990 or R1b-U106-A8551 - Germany (Haven't been able to verify which line)
    E-V13 - Italy
    Paternal Line: Rhineland Germany (J2-Z387) - Confirmed
    Maternal Grandfather - (Škofja Loka, Slovenia) - R1a1 - Y2613 - Confirmed
    Paternal G-Grandfather - Germany - R1b - U106 - Confirmed
    Maternal G-Grandfather - Briano, Caserta, Italy - Possible R1b - L51

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    No offense, but your method seems a little loose to me, which explains how you get so many results.

    I find out if an autosomal match shares a common ancestor with me and then if that match or a close male relative has y-dna test results and a known y haplogroup. Then I can be reasonably sure that’s the y haplogroup of the common male ancestor we share. Most of my autosomal matches don’t have y-dna results, and our shared ancestors aren’t represented in FTDNA projects, not clearly and unambiguously anyway.

    Just my opinion, but I think you’re picking up a lot of lines that probably aren’t yours.
    They used to be easier to find with FTDNA's old search function. I guess they got scared off of allowing it for privacy reasons. I had a couple more besides the ones in my sig line, but I hit the character limit for the sig, and didn't add them. Now I don't know if I still have the YDNA info somewhere.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Small ironic note:
    I don't have any idea about anyone's Y-DNA on the Lebanese half of my tree.
    And while I can tell pretty clearly what they were autosomally, looking at my mom's results, I don't have any idea who any of them were before 1850 or so.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    I have four wildly diverse family haplogroups that I'm particularly interested in.

    1. My own R1b-U152-Z36-A7992 that I've passed on to my son and one of my grandsons. Helvetian?
    2. My mother's father's R1b-L21
    3. My wife's grandfather's Native American Q-M902
    4. My son-in-law's West African E-M2 passed on to two of my grandsons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    They used to be easier to find with FTDNA's old search function. I guess they got scared off of allowing it for privacy reasons. I had a couple more besides the ones in my sig line, but I hit the character limit for the sig, and didn't add them. Now I don't know if I still have the YDNA info somewhere.
    Ysearch used to be a big help, too, but of course those old days - and Ysearch itself - are gone.

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    accidental duplicate
    Last edited by alchemist223; 01-02-2020 at 11:07 PM.
    MDKA: Robert Boulay, b. 1631, Réveillon, Orne, France
    Y-DNA: R1b-U152 > L2 > Z367 > Z34 > Z33 > BY164497> BY3604

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    Unfortunately, quite little. I tested at AncestryDNA , not 23&me, so this explains much of it. The only one I know is my paternal great-grandmother's father's line (an undetermined branch of R-U106), who carried the surname of Bouchard. I'm particularly interested in the lines of my mother's side (Calabria, Italy), as that area is extremely undertested. Unfortunately, attempting to contact matches on AncestryDNA has been unsuccessful.
    MDKA: Robert Boulay, b. 1631, Réveillon, Orne, France
    Y-DNA: R1b-U152 > L2 > Z367 > Z34 > Z33 > BY164497> BY3604

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    Ysearch used to be a big help, too, but of course those old days - and Ysearch itself - are gone.
    I'm glad I took a few screen grabs from that site. We need more resources like that, but the new era of personal data fears doesn't bode well unfortunately.
    Living DNA's former Cautious mode:
    Wales-related ancestry: 86.8%
    Cornwall: 8%
    North England-related ancestry: 5.2%
    Y line: Peak District, England. Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,100 ybp (YFull);
    mtDNA: traces to Glamorgan, Wales
    Mother's Y: traces to Llanvair Discoed, Wales

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADW_1981 View Post
    I don't have any non-R1b that I am aware of. The funny thing is some other family names (Holman, Day) have been popping up in the DF27 project who match the Z209 modal. Highly doubtful the latter would be my relative due to the frequency of the surname though, but it's possible.
    Of course, you're bound to have plenty of non-R1b y-dna haplogroups in your pedigree. As you said, you just don't know of any non-R1b haplogroups yet. They're there, waiting to be discovered.

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    In this y-dna connection Ancestry is really frustrating, since it doesn't test for y-dna anymore. If it would just go at least as far as 23andMe does, that would be a big plus.

    Another limiting factor is the apparent preponderance of women in genealogy. I'm glad for their interest and enthusiasm - and they are behind many a male's y-dna test - but, from the y-dna point of view, I wish more guys would get into it. It's kind of frustrating when checking ThruLines at Ancestry, hunting for a y-chromosome line connection, to see female after female after female.

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