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    Quote Originally Posted by kyp.snow View Post
    Where do I find the coordinates for the model? Would like to run it since I have the coordinates now.
    You can find individual sample coordinates and coordinates for population averages (ancient and modern) here: https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/...obal25_12.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by passenger View Post
    You can find individual sample coordinates and coordinates for population averages (ancient and modern) here: https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/...obal25_12.html
    Thanks but I can't seem to find Simulated_AASI and Dinka

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    Target: FatherKyp
    Distance: 1.5896% / 0.01589648
    31.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    23.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    18.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    10.4 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
    8.6 GEO_CHG
    6.8 Levant_Natufian

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyp.snow View Post
    Target: FatherKyp
    Distance: 1.5896% / 0.01589648
    31.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    23.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    18.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    10.4 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
    8.6 GEO_CHG
    6.8 Levant_Natufian
    Nice results. Decent steppe chunk also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyp.snow View Post
    Target: FatherKyp
    Distance: 1.5896% / 0.01589648
    31.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    23.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    18.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    10.4 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
    8.6 GEO_CHG
    6.8 Levant_Natufian
    This reference groups are too old and existed in very different time periods. Better to use yamnaya, AZE_N, sintashta, syr_ebla, iran_seh_gabi and mng_n

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyp.snow View Post
    Target: FatherKyp
    Distance: 1.5896% / 0.01589648
    31.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    23.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    18.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    10.4 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
    8.6 GEO_CHG
    6.8 Levant_Natufian
    He looks like one of the higher-steppe, higher-E. Eurasian Iranian Azeris. Basically within range.

    I made simulated AASI coordinates several years back (they're somewhere in the forum). For convenience, they happen to be on Genoplot's nMonte runner (which appears to be the user 'poi's previous and popular runner). The simulations were in poi's one and have been ported over.

    The Devil's Gate %age is probably an overestimate - Iranian Azeris (like other groups in the region) register between 0-2% AASI, so the absence of an AASI sim is likely inflating the score here.

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    For comparison (thrown myself in, since I fit within Iranian Azeri diversity despite being roughly half Perisan):

    Sample Fit Barcin N Ganj Dareh N GEO CHG Yamnaya RUS Samara Levant Natufian Devils Gate Cave N
    Azeri ► AZR-1054 3.57 36.5 26.5 13.5 11.5 8 4
    Azeri ► AZR-1018 3.2 33 21.5 20 11 10 4.5
    Azeri ► AZR-1037 3.5 32 27.5 16.5 9.5 8.5 6
    Azeri ► AZR-1039 4.1 31.5 22.5 19.5 11 11.5 4
    Azeri ► AZR-1017 3.18 29 28 13.5 14 9.5 6
    Azeri ► AZR-1010 2.27 29 24 16.5 15 11 4.5
    Azeri ► AZR-1058 3.19 28.5 27.5 9.5 18 12.5 4
    Azeri ► AZR-1012 3.5 24.5 17.5 21.5 13.5 14.5 8.5
    Azeri ► AZR-1013 4.34 23.5 24.5 21.5 12 14.5 4


    Including my South AASI sim average, and the result is as predicted:

    Sample Fit Barcin N Ganj Dareh N GEO CHG Yamnaya RUS Samara Levant Natufian Devils Gate Cave N Simulated AASI by DMXX
    Azeri ► AZR-1054 3.83 35.5 27.5 13 12 9.5 2 0.5
    Azeri ► AZR-1018 3.19 34 20 21.5 9.5 10 3.5 1.5
    Azeri ► AZR-1037 3.5 33 25.5 18 8.5 8 5 2
    Azeri ► AZR-1039 4.14 32.5 25 18 10.5 11 3 0
    Azeri ► AZR-1017 3.35 29 27 14 15 10 4 1
    Azeri ► AZR-1010 2.58 29 25 17 14.5 11 2.5 1
    Azeri ► AZR-1058 3.14 28.5 27 10 18 12 3.5 1
    Azeri ► AZR-1012 3.77 25.5 18 22 12.5 14.5 6 1.5
    Azeri ► AZR-1013 4.42 24.5 24.5 23 10 14.5 2.5 1


    [edit]: removing myself; I'm too Iran_N shifted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldmountains View Post
    This reference groups are too old and existed in very different time periods. Better to use yamnaya, AZE_N, sintashta, syr_ebla, iran_seh_gabi and mng_n
    I need to include an Anatolian sample since there is the possibility that the turkic side is from Anatolia originally though

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    Distance: 2.5167% / 0.02516709
    43.6 AZE_Caucasus_lowlands_LN
    19.2 IRN_Seh_Gabi_LN
    18.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
    11.0 MNG_BA
    4.4 SYR_Ebla_EMBA
    2.6 TUR_Boncuklu_N
    0.4 TUR_Barcin_C
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMXX View Post
    For comparison (thrown myself in, since I fit within Iranian Azeri diversity despite being roughly half Perisan):

    Sample Fit Barcin N Ganj Dareh N GEO CHG Yamnaya RUS Samara Levant Natufian Devils Gate Cave N
    Azeri ► AZR-1054 3.57 36.5 26.5 13.5 11.5 8 4
    Azeri ► AZR-1018 3.2 33 21.5 20 11 10 4.5
    Azeri ► AZR-1037 3.5 32 27.5 16.5 9.5 8.5 6
    Azeri ► AZR-1039 4.1 31.5 22.5 19.5 11 11.5 4
    Azeri ► AZR-1017 3.18 29 28 13.5 14 9.5 6
    Azeri ► AZR-1010 2.27 29 24 16.5 15 11 4.5
    Azeri ► AZR-1058 3.19 28.5 27.5 9.5 18 12.5 4
    Azeri ► AZR-1012 3.5 24.5 17.5 21.5 13.5 14.5 8.5
    Azeri ► AZR-1013 4.34 23.5 24.5 21.5 12 14.5 4


    Including my South AASI sim average, and the result is as predicted:

    Sample Fit Barcin N Ganj Dareh N GEO CHG Yamnaya RUS Samara Levant Natufian Devils Gate Cave N Simulated AASI by DMXX
    Azeri ► AZR-1054 3.83 35.5 27.5 13 12 9.5 2 0.5
    Azeri ► AZR-1018 3.19 34 20 21.5 9.5 10 3.5 1.5
    Azeri ► AZR-1037 3.5 33 25.5 18 8.5 8 5 2
    Azeri ► AZR-1039 4.14 32.5 25 18 10.5 11 3 0
    Azeri ► AZR-1017 3.35 29 27 14 15 10 4 1
    Azeri ► AZR-1010 2.58 29 25 17 14.5 11 2.5 1
    Azeri ► AZR-1058 3.14 28.5 27 10 18 12 3.5 1
    Azeri ► AZR-1012 3.77 25.5 18 22 12.5 14.5 6 1.5
    Azeri ► AZR-1013 4.42 24.5 24.5 23 10 14.5 2.5 1


    [edit]: removing myself; I'm too Iran_N shifted.
    Yes I think he looks to be in range (unsurprisingly). He sometimes receives a small Shahr e Sokhta signal in calculator. This could be from Mazandarani/Persian ancestors right?

    The Devil's Gate %age is probably an overestimate - Iranian Azeris (like other groups in the region) register between 0-2% AASI, so the absence of an AASI sim is likely inflating the score here.
    He is around 8% Mongoloid.
    Last edited by kyp.snow; 07-02-2020 at 10:55 PM.

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    Distance to: Father_Kyp
    0.02603662 Azeri
    0.03338554 Turkish_Adana
    0.03372914 Azeri_Turkey
    0.03626488 Turkish_Central
    0.03714211 Iranian_Fars
    0.03863728 Azeri_Dagestan
    0.03889267 Turkish_Kayseri
    0.04078618 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    0.04111983 Iranian_Seyyed
    0.04227904 Ezid
    0.04321543 Iranian_Lor
    0.04484749 Iranian_Zoroastrian
    0.04540598 Turkish_North
    0.04556223 Kurdish
    0.04841788 Turkish_Southwest
    0.04868205 Turkish_Istanbul
    0.04973091 Turkish_South
    0.05109277 Turkish_Northwest
    0.05145289 Turkish_Aydin
    0.05442974 Kumyk
    0.05553976 Turkish_Balikesir
    0.05595084 Iranian_Mazandarani
    0.06073224 Kabardin
    0.06206089 Karachay
    0.06385229 Cherkes
    0.06393435 Circassian
    0.06489538 Abazin
    0.06545111 Parsi_Pakistan
    0.06744648 Georgian_Jew
    0.06762054 Balkar

    Target: Father_Kyp
    Distance: 1.8183% / 0.01818321 | ADC: 0.25x
    24.6 Azeri
    20.2 Turkish_North
    19.4 Iranian_Mazandarani
    14.8 Turkish_Adana
    9.2 Turkish_Southwest
    8.2 Parsi_India
    2.2 Turkish_Istanbul

    Target: Father_Kyp
    Distance: 2.0694% / 0.02069380 | ADC: 0.5x
    68.0 Azeri
    16.4 Turkish_North
    10.4 Parsi_Pakistan
    4.2 Turkish_Adana
    1.0 Turkish_Southwest

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