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    J-FGC60677 Turkey and Kirgizistan TMRCA 1650

    Hi gents and lads. I`ve just right now observed new turkish sample on yfull under J1-P58/..../J-FGC4453/J-FGC60677 who is in the same subclade with kirgiz from sayak tribe.
    Does anyone have any info regarding this turkish sample? I know that his region mainly is of arabic origin, but really such a coincidence?
    Most distant known ancestor Qaraqoyunlu Turkmen Emir Saad, owner of the Chuxur Saad (Erivan province), Chieftain of the Turkoman Saadlu tribe (Black Sheep Turkomans) 14th century. Buried here : Hidden Content


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    Altough I dont know who the sample belongs to, its likely its an arab. It is probably a result of arabic expansion.
    If I recall correctly there are some samples from Diyarbakir (banu bakr tribe) that also end up somewhere in this clade
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    Yes sure, even if that turkish is ethnic turk his ancestors had been turkified. However that also would mean back migration as a turkic among seljuks etc. If that is true ( which I don't believe honestly considering turkish samples homecity) guys revealed new turkic subclade within J-P58
    Most distant known ancestor Qaraqoyunlu Turkmen Emir Saad, owner of the Chuxur Saad (Erivan province), Chieftain of the Turkoman Saadlu tribe (Black Sheep Turkomans) 14th century. Buried here : Hidden Content


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