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Thread: K1a4: Origins and Descendants

  1. #81
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    K1a4a1k

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    I'm K1a4a1 and I wonder how common it is in North Africa?

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    H1c3b 'Helga'

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    My wife is K1a4a1b1 from Cheshire England. 2,500 BCE. No GD=0 matches although 25 matches 1-3. All seem European in origin.

    Age taken from here
    http://thecid.com/mtdnatree/individuals.html
    LivingDNA:

    GB and Ire 98.5%
    South Germanic 1.5%


    Ancestry:

    Eng, Wales & NW Euro 50%
    North Eng, Ire and Scot 39%
    Norway 5%
    Sweden 4%
    Germanic Europe 2%

    NatGen:

    42% North Euro
    37% Mediterranean
    19% SW Asian

    Known ancestral lines:

    U152: BY3644 @ Vallum Aelium
    H1c3b Salford (mother)
    U4a3a Biddick, Durham (pat grandfather's mother)
    U198 Stanhope, Durham (pat gg grandfather)
    K1a-T195C! Wigan, Lancs (pat grandmother)

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  4. #83
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    K1a10a

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    K1a4a1d

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    I'm K1a4a1d and I am clueless what that means.

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    K1a10a

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    Quote Originally Posted by CelticGypsy View Post
    I'm K1a4a1d and I am clueless what that means.
    K1a4a1d is one of the most recent branches of K1a4, a type which flourished after coming to Europe in the Neolithic. K1a4a1d only seems to exist in Germany, England, and Ireland (apart from emigrant populations such as the USA). For a collection of cases of K1a4a1d, see Family Tree DNA's mtDNA K Project (possibly one of those cases is yours) at https://www.familytreedna.com/public...rame=mtresults

    I posted a summary of K1a4 on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/groups/2359809881

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    K1a4a1

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    I was excited to find this paper, which locates my particular (and rather rare) branch of K1a4a1i in ) Herxheim, Germany in the context of LBK (Linear Pottery culture).

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...502v1.full.pdf

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    my wife marker went from K1a4*

    to K1a4p in yfull ( western balkans )

    no change to any other on my families listings


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-CTS6397 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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  12. #88
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    K1a4a1

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    my wife marker went from K1a4*

    to K1a4p in yfull ( western balkans )

    no change to any other on my families listings
    It's always nice to have a bit of movement. Congratulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Mc View Post
    It's always nice to have a bit of movement. Congratulations.
    thanks

    7 years for 1st upgrade to her marker .....its been a long wait


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-CTS6397 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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