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    I need help in understanding, please?

    Hi,
    I am such a newbie and I admit it. My mtDNA came back U5a2c3a. FTDNA says that I have no matches at all, but within the U5a FMS Project, I have 2 other matches with the same unique mutations that are enough to have submitted to GenBank for a new subclade. In addition, there are within the U5a FMS Project, several others just like mine, U5a2c3a, with additional, unique mutations (i.e., potentially with also form a new subclade. My question is, how, under these constraints, can I have zero matches at any level, HRV1, HRV2, or Coding regions and still have the new subclade situation? I feel like I am missing something, or that something is off and is missing me.

    Can anyone help me to grasp this? It will go a long way to teach me, and alternately, to shut me up if I can just grasp this.

    Thank you one and all,
    Beth

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    I think FTDNA has a poor matching algorithm. In my case, for my Y-DNA, I match the same person at 12 and 37 markers, but he does not show up at 25 markers! (I am guessing somehow our differences are maximal within 25 markers and so the matching algorithm neglects him). Unless you have some private mutations that all three of you exclusively share along with the HVR1,HVR2 and CR being exactly identical, I don't think the result means much for recent genealogy and so may not be a useful match.
    Paternal YDNA: G-P303+ -> G-Z30522+
    Paternal mtDNA: U7a3b1
    Maternal YDNA: R-Z2123+ -> R-YP526+
    Maternal mtDNA: C4a1 (T195C!)

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    Hi Beth. Welcome to the forum. Gail T. (admin of the U5a FMS project) would be the person to talk to. She does pop in here, but you could contact her direct.

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    Hi, Beth!

    According to BritainsDNA's Chromo2 Complete test, I am also U5a2c3a. Small world! My most distant mtDNA ancestor is my great grandmother, Nora Lancaster, born March 1878 in Lauderdale County, Alabama. I know next to nothing about her family.

    Here is a photo of Nora Lancaster, with my grandmother seated on her lap. The younger kids are all siblings. The older girl on the right in the photo is a niece from Nora's husband's side of the family (surname Morris).

    Nora E. Lancaster and kids.jpg

    Here are my results (with my own little notes to keep me on the right track).

    HVR1 (runs from nucleotide 16001 to nucleotide 16569)

    16223T
    16256T
    16270T
    16294T
    16526A

    HVR2 (runs from nucleotide 00001 to nucleotide 00574)

    73G
    263G

    Coding Region (runs from nucleotide 00575 to nucleotide 16000)

    750G
    1438G
    2706G
    3197C
    4769G
    7028T
    7960c
    9477A
    10709C
    11465C
    11467G
    11719A
    12308G
    12372A
    13617C
    13880A
    14793G
    Last edited by rms2; 01-29-2014 at 01:45 AM.

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