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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    If that’s the case how could they be slightly different and plus my mother has got Welsh on top....Isn’t this another feature I have read somewhere the firmname of but I have forgotten the name.....
    Probably because her oracle is off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generalissimo View Post
    Probably because her oracle is off.
    May be, but it's more likely a separate tool.

    I must be something separate because by no way we get about 12,5% I2a2 based on the oracle results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    May be, but it's more likely a separate tool.

    I must be something separate because by no way we get about 12,5% I2a2 based on the oracle results.
    And there's no way you can share 50cM with ancient samples either. So there you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generalissimo View Post
    And there's no way you can share 50cM with ancient samples either. So there you go.
    That's true, but that's besides that specific tool. As fare as I know only this specific part (the haplogroups analysis) they bought from Dante. The rest is otherwise.

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    Keep hoping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generalissimo View Post
    Keep hoping.
    I can't judge if this Dante tool is right or not. You can.

    The result makes sense. My paper trail is 100% NE Dutch, more specific in a tiny subregion (mom North Drenthe/ father Groningen, just few miles). Exaggerated: this part of the North Dutch area is a kind of genetic jurassic park

    The west part of North Dutch in Friesland, they got a severe population decline at the end of Ronan times, in North Drenthe and Groningen this is not so much the case. This is at easy what archeologist state (Nieuwhof, Nicolay).

    It's also visible in the nowadays genetic landscape. R1b S116 (Beakerish) is very low in the Westergo part of Friesland and high on the old BB hotspot Veluwe. 10% difference.
    Westergo was repopulated by Anglo-Saxons and other North Sea dwellers.

    Larmuseau et al (2019):


    So seen the fact that North Drenthe was the hotspot of the funnel beakers and later on BB, and there was no population decline like in Friesland. So a higher Funnelbeaker I2a2 and Beaker kind of R1b as a substrate is no wonder..... So seen form the result this is not weird.

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    It's not a Dante tool. They're just using Dante data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny wilson View Post
    As Davidski said before, it is exactly the same feature as in this example, I hope it is easy to understand...

    You can use in G25 spreadsheet with individual ancient data and results will be similar to MTA single distances list or breakdown.

    You will receive a breakdown of individual ancient samples then.

    And next you can check using relevant websites Y-DNA and mtDNA of every sample you have in G25 breakdown.

    And in very last step you can make simple calculation of haplogroups frequencies of G25 samples in your breakdown and it is exactly what you get in MTA. But they use not G25 but old K15 for calculation this oracle Plus they add some samples which are fake like St. Bryce Massacre vikings, Franks, Picts, which aren't tested and published nowhere.

    And tell me you consider your G25 breakdown as genealogical tree of your real ancestors or just a similarity to ancient samples? No? So why you do it for MTA vague results? Because they give you fake "deep dive " matches with unrealistic values?
    As said they use a tool or data of the Dante firm, that has no relationship with K15 or G25. Apples and oranges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny wilson View Post
    Again.


    You are quoting three separate sentences about their new features... Not related to each other...

    Should be like this




    This message which you quoted shouldn't be read as one sentence. I hope it is clear now.

    It was about Dante Finn... They simply started to support Dante kits. That's it.

    All fine but this leads to nothing (besides textexegesis): is that "haplogroup analytics" thing valuable or firewood?

    See from the result it is seen the context not weird. So I consider it valuable.

    But the technique is a black box for me.

    What I do know is that is they didn't used the K15 results because then we never had 12,5% I2a2 because our K15 results don't have such percentages I2a2

    My result:

    1. North_Dutch (2.685) Frisians have 1% I2a2 (wiki)
    2. Danish (3.107) 2 % I2a2
    3. West_Scottish (4.213) 1% I2a2 (although on the map there are some I2a2 highlights).
    4. Norwegian (4.773) 0% I2a
    5. Orcadian (4.790) ?
    6. Irish (4.931) 1% I2a2 1% I2a2
    7. West_Norwegian (5.083) 1% I2a2
    8. Southeast_English (6.218) 1% I2a2

    There are subregional highlights, but 12,5 % is for a NW European quite high.



    Basically: based on K15 you can't make 12,5% I2a2 out of it. i'm not a whiz kid, but this is too obvious.


    And by the way the MtDNA results of my parents is quite differentiated.
    Last edited by Finn; 02-20-2020 at 12:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generalissimo View Post
    Keep hoping.
    Hummmmm

    Wat makes me very suspicious is that my wife Southwest Dutch/ Northern France get's also 11% I2a2.....can't be true.

    Hope gone

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