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Thread: Post Your Eurogenes K13 Vahaduo Results(Modern & Ancient)

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    Post Your Eurogenes K13 Vahaduo Results(Modern & Ancient)

    Very interesting results Didn't know we had Vlach and Torbesh, and Pomak samples. Will add my mother and father sometime tomorrow for comparison to my own. See what components are more inflated than others in each case.

    Modern:

    Distance to: Dibran
    3.98526034 Albanian
    5.85422924 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
    6.28579351 Vlach_Central-Macedonia

    6.60322648 Greek_Western-Thrace
    7.03342733 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    7.29570422 Greek_Thessaly
    7.43398951 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
    7.92290982 Greek_Thessaloniki
    8.01198678 Kosovo_Albanian
    8.50455172 Macedonian_Southwest
    8.70899535 Greek_Peloponnese
    8.96395560 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
    9.01587766 GR_Peloponese
    9.22083732 Bulgarian_Thrace
    9.67818681 Greek_Central-Macedonia
    9.83182757 GR_Macedonia
    9.84918271 Romagna
    9.99868991 Lazio
    10.06792928 Vlach_North-Macedonia
    10.21352535 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    10.25471599 Macedonian_North
    10.34964734 Greek_Northern-Thrace
    10.42514268 Marche
    10.56011364 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
    10.62055083 Macedonian_Central


    Target: Dibran
    Distance: 0.7720% / 0.77197698

    31.2 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
    20.4 Albanian
    19.8 Sardinian
    13.0 Macedonian_Greece
    7.0 Pomak_Xanthi
    5.2 Greek_Trabzon
    3.0 Greek_Thessaloniki
    0.4 Greek_Northern-Thrace


    Target: Dibran
    Distance: 1.5978% / 1.59776225 | ADC: 0.25x

    75.0 Albanian
    10.0 Sardinian
    8.8 Macedonian_Southwest
    3.8 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
    1.2 Cyprian
    1.2 Greek_Cypriot


    K13 Ancient:

    Distance to: Dibran
    6.06847592 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
    8.59573150 SZ32_szolad_hungary_longobard
    10.38236486 SZ37_szolad_hungary_longobard

    11.80490152 SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    12.00131243 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
    12.28974776 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
    12.41847817 SZ1.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    12.58201892 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    12.62345832 SZ40_szolad_hungary_longobard
    13.16741432 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
    13.70586371 SZ43.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    13.83035068 SZ28_szolad_hungary_longobard
    14.42058598 I7424_morisco
    14.42664202 CL36_collegno_italy_longobard
    14.95858282 I7424_morisco2
    15.82697697 CrusaderSI53KingdomofJerusalem
    15.83844058 CL121_collegno_italy_longobard
    15.89745263 I12647_iberia
    16.05095324 SZ19_szolad_hungary_longobard
    16.06342118 I12647_iberia2
    17.01763791 IA_Civitavecchia_R475
    17.36985032 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
    17.51972603 ScythianMoldova_SCY197_Moldova_288502632_BC
    17.66943123 I3808_morisco_I3808_morisco
    18.31939955 I8146_Muslim_Iberian(Emirate_of_Granada)

    Target: Dibran
    Distance: 2.1408% / 2.14078652 | ADC: 0.25x
    59.8 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian

    24.8 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
    5.2 SZ20_szolad_hungary_longobard
    5.0 Bar8_Anatolian_Neolithic_Barcin_6212_6030_BCE8222_ 8040_ybp
    3.8 Minoan_Minoan_Lasithi
    1.4 I7426_iberia

    Also added myself to source code out of curiosity and MJ12 Thraco Kimmerian(with ADC 0.25X) seems to shift closer to me than other ancients. Call it calculator bias most likely. still interesting.

    Target: MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
    Distance: 1.4256% / 1.42555570 | ADC: 0.25x
    85.0 Dibran

    3.0 CL110_collegno_italy_longobard
    3.0 Sigauri_Sigauri._Melkhiy_(Chechen_Republic)
    2.8 Crimean_Nogay
    2.2 ANCIENT_SA6001Sharakhalsun6_Steppe_of_Maykop_cultu re_5444
    2.0 SIJ003_Sinyukha_Late_Maykop_5174_U4c1
    0.8 MARC1492_Ancient_Mi_kmaq_1492
    0.8 SaryBel_Russia_RISE602_Sary0Bel._Russia
    0.4 ANCIENT_VJ1001_Vonyuchka_1_Steppe_of_N_Caucasus_62 42_year_old

    Distance to: MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
    6.06847592 Dibran
    10.59270504 SZ32_szolad_hungary_longobard
    11.36090225 SZ37_szolad_hungary_longobard

    12.25233855 SZ1.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    13.07933102 SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    13.64351128 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    13.77450544 CrusaderSI53KingdomofJerusalem
    13.97814008 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
    14.28469461 SZ40_szolad_hungary_longobard
    14.67555450 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
    15.13207190 CL36_collegno_italy_longobard
    15.54451350 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
    15.99143833 SZ43.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    16.21950677 CL121_collegno_italy_longobard
    16.44667140 SZ28_szolad_hungary_longobard
    17.00225279 I7424_morisco2
    17.51473380 I7424_morisco
    18.09144826 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
    18.56905490 IA_Ardea_R850
    19.12721360 I12647_iberia2
    19.43850817 I12647_iberia
    19.49771782 I3808_morisco_I3808_morisco
    19.62588597 I7499_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE2
    19.66646638 CL30_collegno_italy_longobard
    19.79443356 CL23_collegno_italy_longobard
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    K13 Modern:

    Distance to: Dibran_Father
    5.08872283 Albanian
    5.94013468 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
    6.31205989 Greek_Thessaly

    6.61690260 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
    6.79828655 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
    6.90493302 Greek_Thessaloniki
    7.01196121 Greek_Western-Thrace
    7.48124321 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
    7.50649885 GR_Peloponese
    7.85510662 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    7.96658259 Bulgarian_Thrace
    8.02168312 Macedonian_Southwest
    8.48948762 Greek_Peloponnese
    8.64179958 GR_Macedonia
    8.89287098 Kosovo_Albanian
    9.32624791 Turk_Thessaloniki
    9.55220393 Greek_Northern-Thrace
    10.04790028 Greek_Central-Macedonia
    10.35350665 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    10.35705074 Turk_Kazanlik
    10.37924853 Central_Greek
    10.48154569 Macedonian_North
    10.75241833 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
    10.89028925 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
    11.02540702 Macedonian_Greece


    Target: Dibran_Father
    Distance: 1.1215% / 1.12148454

    27.2 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
    23.8 Pomak_Xanthi
    21.0 Sardinian
    16.4 Greek_Northern-Thrace
    7.2 Lebanese_Druze
    4.2 Greek_Trabzon
    0.2 Macedonian_Greece

    Target: Dibran_Father
    Distance: 2.2084% / 2.20843387 | ADC: 0.25x

    52.2 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
    29.2 Albanian
    12.0 Sardinian
    6.6 Pomak_Xanthi

    Target: Dibran_Father
    Distance: 3.2742% / 3.27416516 | ADC: 0.5x

    56.0 Albanian
    37.6 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
    5.2 Sardinian
    1.2 Algerian_Jewish

    K13Ancient:

    Target: Dibran_Father
    Distance: 2.2841% / 2.28405218 | ADC: 0.25x

    66.8 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
    15.0 Bar8_Anatolian_Neolithic_Barcin_6212_6030_BCE8222_ 8040_ybp
    11.0 SZ20_szolad_hungary_longobard
    5.6 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
    1.2 ScythianMoldova_SCY197_Moldova_288502632_BC
    0.4 I7426_iberia


    Distance to: Dibran_Father
    6.84813843 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
    11.32818609 SZ32_szolad_hungary_longobard
    11.81369967 SZ40_szolad_hungary_longobard

    12.13224217 SZ37_szolad_hungary_longobard
    13.05864465 SZ1.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    13.19786725 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
    13.36297497 SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    13.39810434 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
    14.47944750 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    14.95215369 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
    15.32874424 CrusaderSI53KingdomofJerusalem
    15.65184654 I7424_morisco
    15.74446887 SZ43.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    16.29414005 I7424_morisco2
    16.30319601 I3808_morisco_I3808_morisco
    16.63006314 CL36_collegno_italy_longobard
    16.72736082 SZ28_szolad_hungary_longobard
    16.74627123 CL121_collegno_italy_longobard
    16.85198208 SZ19_szolad_hungary_longobard
    17.74226028 IA_Ardea_R850
    17.87511119 IA_Civitavecchia_R475
    18.11703618 I12647_iberia
    18.14362422 I12647_iberia2
    18.46852458 I7499_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE2
    18.54656302 I3808_iberia

    Running Thraco_Kimmerian against my father:

    Target: MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
    Distance: 1.3892% / 1.38919657 | ADC: 0.25x
    80.6 Dibran_Father

    8.4 CL110_collegno_italy_longobard
    3.0 SaryBel_Russia_RISE602_Sary0Bel._Russia
    3.0 V2_Vratitsa_Bulgaria_1500_1100_BC_M_U2e1_2_3
    1.6 RISE407_Armenian_LBA
    1.2 ANCIENT_SA6001Sharakhalsun6_Steppe_of_Maykop_cultu re_5444
    1.0 ANCIENT_VJ1001_Vonyuchka_1_Steppe_of_N_Caucasus_62 42_year_old
    0.8 RISE407_Norabak_Armenia_2827_years_CT_M5805_H8a
    0.4 AY2001_Aygurskiy_2_Steppe_Maykop_5271_5_T2e
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    Distance to: Hawk

    2.12983567 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    2.59244391 Kosovo_Albanian
    2.88050343 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
    3.17275905 Greek_Central-Macedonia
    4.71118881 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
    4.76116385 North_Macedonian
    5.11178051 Turk_Alexandroupoli
    5.18319400 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
    5.21117069 Turk_Kavala
    5.38241581 Albanian
    5.56982046 Vlach_North-Macedonia
    5.59730292 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    5.68471635 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
    5.70264851 Greek_Thessaloniki
    5.81178974 Macedonian_Southeast
    5.91164106 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
    6.05023966 Turk_Kazanlik
    6.09680244 Turk_Thessaloniki
    6.15550160 Macedonian_East
    6.31424580 Bulgarian_Central
    6.34282272 Greek_Thessaly
    6.42212582 Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
    6.70327532 Greek_Northern-Thrace
    7.13302881 Greek_Western-Thrace
    7.23918504 Bulgarian

    Target: Hawk
    Distance: 0.4381% / 0.43807291


    27.8 Greek_Northern-Thrace
    25.8 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    12.6 Swiss_Italian
    10.6 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
    6.6 Greek_Istanbul
    6.0 Greek_Trabzon
    5.0 Lombardy
    4.6 Southeast_English
    1.0 Marche

    Target: Hawk
    Distance: 0.7681% / 0.76805846 | ADC: 0.25x


    63.8 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    21.8 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
    7.8 Albanian
    6.6 Lombardy

    Target: Hawk
    Distance: 1.0370% / 1.03695094 | ADC: 0.5x


    59.2 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    19.4 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
    17.2 Kosovo_Albanian
    3.8 Lombardy
    0.2 Albanian
    0.2 Emilia

    Target: Hawk
    Distance: 1.4737% / 1.47367874 | ADC: 1x


    61.8 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    24.6 Kosovo_Albanian
    13.6 Bulgarian_Plovdiv

    Target: Hawk
    Distance: 1.9942% / 1.99419927 | ADC: 2x


    93.6 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    6.4 Kosovo_Albanian

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    K13 Modern:

    Distance to: Dibran_Mother
    2.22298320 Kosovo_Albanian
    3.03117139 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    3.28397625 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East

    3.47142622 Albanian
    3.62939389 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
    3.92322571 Vlach_North-Macedonia
    4.43372304 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
    4.68892312 Greek_Central-Macedonia
    5.18954719 Greek_Thessaloniki
    5.19636411 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    5.35211173 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
    5.35496032 Greek_Thessaly
    5.47417574 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
    5.87451966 North_Macedonian
    6.06470939 Macedonian_Southeast
    6.26196455 Macedonian_Central
    6.30479976 Greek_Peloponnese
    6.46352071 Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
    6.48000772 Macedonian_Southwest
    6.59423233 Macedonian_North
    6.62502350 Bulgarian_Thrace
    6.63723587 Turk_Alexandroupoli
    6.64586338 GR_Macedonia
    6.89069663 Greek_Western-Thrace
    6.96596727 Turk_Kavala


    Target: Dibran_Mother
    Distance: 1.0075% / 1.00751159 | ADC: 0.5x

    42.8 Kosovo_Albanian
    22.6 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    19.2 Albanian
    8.2 Vlach_North-Macedonia
    4.6 Serb_North-Macedonia
    2.6 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East

    Target: Dibran_Mother
    Distance: 0.7507% / 0.75073438 | ADC: 0.25x

    29.4 Kosovo_Albanian
    26.8 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    24.6 Albanian
    10.6 Vlach_North-Macedonia
    8.0 Serb_North-Macedonia
    0.6 Greek_Peloponnese

    K13Ancient:

    Distance to: Dibran_Mother
    5.97952339 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
    8.80801340 SZ1.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    8.93100778 SZ32_szolad_hungary_longobard

    9.19652108 SZ37_szolad_hungary_longobard
    9.28174553 SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    9.89020222 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    10.89342921 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
    12.35422600 CL36_collegno_italy_longobard
    13.22728997 SZ43.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    13.46365478 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
    13.92451435 CrusaderSI53KingdomofJerusalem
    14.14964664 SZ28_szolad_hungary_longobard
    14.26841617 I7424_morisco2
    14.30894825 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
    14.40588769 SZ40_szolad_hungary_longobard
    14.66658106 I7424_morisco
    15.48080424 CL121_collegno_italy_longobard
    15.93637035 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
    16.50686221 CL23_collegno_italy_longobard
    16.56552444 CL49_collegno_italy_longobard
    16.97227150 SZ27_szolad_hungary_longobard
    16.99817637 I12647_iberia2
    17.27123331 SZ45.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    17.39381212 I12647_iberia
    17.48317191 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9


    Target: Dibran_Mother
    Distance: 1.8057% / 1.80573540 | ADC: 0.25x

    60.6 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
    17.8 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
    13.2 SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    4.2 RISE555_Stalingard_Quarry_Russia_4082_years_R_CTS6 23_N1a
    2.6 I7426_iberia
    1.0 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
    0.6 SZ20_szolad_hungary_longobard

    Running Thraco_Kimmerian against source code with my moms data:

    Target: MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
    Distance: 2.2071% / 2.20710510 | ADC: 0.25x
    78.6 Dibran_Mother

    13.0 Chalcolithic_Age_Anatolian_Barcinhoyuk._Turkey_394 3_BC
    3.6 ANCIENT_SA6001Sharakhalsun6_Steppe_of_Maykop_cultu re_5444
    3.4 sar00665_sar00665
    1.0 RISE497_Arban_1_Russia_2000_years_F_P142_A2f2
    0.4 HDGP01037_Pima_Male_HDGP01037

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    Distance to: Hawk

    2.12983567 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    2.59244391 Kosovo_Albanian
    2.88050343 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
    3.17275905 Greek_Central-Macedonia
    4.71118881 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
    4.76116385 North_Macedonian
    5.11178051 Turk_Alexandroupoli
    5.18319400 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
    5.21117069 Turk_Kavala
    5.38241581 Albanian
    5.56982046 Vlach_North-Macedonia
    5.59730292 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    5.68471635 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
    5.70264851 Greek_Thessaloniki
    5.81178974 Macedonian_Southeast
    5.91164106 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
    6.05023966 Turk_Kazanlik
    6.09680244 Turk_Thessaloniki
    6.15550160 Macedonian_East
    6.31424580 Bulgarian_Central
    6.34282272 Greek_Thessaly
    6.42212582 Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
    6.70327532 Greek_Northern-Thrace
    7.13302881 Greek_Western-Thrace
    7.23918504 Bulgarian

    Target: Hawk
    Distance: 0.4381% / 0.43807291


    27.8 Greek_Northern-Thrace
    25.8 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    12.6 Swiss_Italian
    10.6 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
    6.6 Greek_Istanbul
    6.0 Greek_Trabzon
    5.0 Lombardy
    4.6 Southeast_English
    1.0 Marche

    Target: Hawk
    Distance: 0.7681% / 0.76805846 | ADC: 0.25x


    63.8 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    21.8 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
    7.8 Albanian
    6.6 Lombardy

    Target: Hawk
    Distance: 1.0370% / 1.03695094 | ADC: 0.5x


    59.2 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    19.4 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
    17.2 Kosovo_Albanian
    3.8 Lombardy
    0.2 Albanian
    0.2 Emilia

    Target: Hawk
    Distance: 1.4737% / 1.47367874 | ADC: 1x


    61.8 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    24.6 Kosovo_Albanian
    13.6 Bulgarian_Plovdiv

    Target: Hawk
    Distance: 1.9942% / 1.99419927 | ADC: 2x


    93.6 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    6.4 Kosovo_Albanian
    I have a Kosovar sample from Podujev, Llap, Bessiana. E-L241. Will post shortly after the kit uploads.

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    H11a2*-146+
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    J2b-L283>PH1751
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    Albania Kosovo Macedonia United States of America Sweden Greece
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    [B]..............
    Peculiar results. Perhaps it has to do with Paeonian/Dardanian like admixture? Single distances make a tad more sense

    Distance to: Llap_Podujeva_Kosova
    4.32090268 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
    4.88799550 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    4.90771841 Albanian
    5.56587209 Kosovo_Albanian

    5.71035901 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
    5.79739597 Vlach_North-Macedonia
    6.44476532 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
    6.67084702 Macedonian_Southwest
    6.80235988 Macedonian_Central
    6.82824282 Greek_Thessaly
    7.03749245 Greek_Thessaloniki
    7.27059832 Macedonian_North
    7.34114189 Bulgarian_Thrace
    7.47624237 Greek_Peloponnese
    7.66792671 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
    7.83833528 Greek_Central-Macedonia
    8.00422388 GR_Macedonia
    8.25339816 North_Macedonian
    8.34238575 Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
    8.42389459 Macedonian_Southeast
    8.42917552 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
    8.49047113 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    8.56168792 Turk_Kazanlik
    8.57170928 Greek_Western-Thrace
    8.88958942 Greek_Northern-Thrace


    Target: Llap_Podujeva_Kosova
    Distance: 3.5667% / 3.56669023 | ADC: 1x

    85.0 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
    8.4 Serb_North-Macedonia
    4.8 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    1.8 Albanian

    Target: Llap_Podujeva_Kosova
    Distance: 2.4453% / 2.44525211 | ADC: 0.5x

    46.2 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
    23.0 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    21.0 Serb_North-Macedonia
    8.4 Albanian
    1.4 Sardinian

    Target: Llap_Podujeva_Kosova
    Distance: 1.4251% / 1.42513314 | ADC: 0.25x

    38.6 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
    26.0 Serb_North-Macedonia
    25.0 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    5.0 Sardinian
    3.0 Romani
    2.4 Albanian

    K13 Ancient:

    Target: Llap_Podujeva_Kosova
    Distance: 1.9444% / 1.94442218 | ADC: 0.25x

    63.2 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
    11.4 SZ32_szolad_hungary_longobard
    10.2 I7426_iberia
    8.2 SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    5.6 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
    0.8 Kajan
    0.4 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
    0.2 K2_52_vengr_lider

    Distance to: Llap_Podujeva_Kosova
    5.18546044 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
    9.13344404 SZ32_szolad_hungary_longobard
    10.74330955 SZ37_szolad_hungary_longobard

    11.04078802 SZ1.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    11.36214328 SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    11.75405462 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
    13.18671680 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
    13.85634151 CL36_collegno_italy_longobard
    13.86269815 SZ28_szolad_hungary_longobard
    14.00870087 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
    14.79013523 SZ43.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
    15.03743662 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
    15.36587127 I7424_morisco2
    15.75273310 CrusaderSI53KingdomofJerusalem
    15.77072287 SZ40_szolad_hungary_longobard
    15.78633903 I7424_morisco
    16.07274090 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
    16.97215072 I12647_iberia2
    17.11508107 CL121_collegno_italy_longobard
    17.38497052 I12647_iberia
    17.91083471 CL23_collegno_italy_longobard
    18.43681372 I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1 _2
    18.48424735 I7499_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE2
    18.55706604 CL49_collegno_italy_longobard
    18.65580339 SZ45.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard

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  13. #7
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    Target: Llap_Podujeva_Kosova
    Distance: 3.5667% / 3.56669023 | ADC: 1x


    85.0 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
    8.4 Serb_North-Macedonia
    4.8 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    1.8 Albanian

    Target: Hawk
    Distance: 1.4737% / 1.47367874 | ADC: 1x


    61.8 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    24.6 Kosovo_Albanian
    13.6 Bulgarian_Plovdiv

    We have different results, i am shifted toward Thessaly/Greek Macedonia a lot, he is shifted toward Balkan Slavs. Anyway, these calculators are out of context calculators, do a G25 for him so we can see where he plots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Target: Llap_Podujeva_Kosova
    Distance: 3.5667% / 3.56669023 | ADC: 1x


    85.0 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
    8.4 Serb_North-Macedonia
    4.8 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    1.8 Albanian

    Target: Hawk
    Distance: 1.4737% / 1.47367874 | ADC: 1x


    61.8 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    24.6 Kosovo_Albanian
    13.6 Bulgarian_Plovdiv

    We have different results, i am shifted toward Thessaly/Greek Macedonia a lot, he is shifted toward Balkan Slavs. Anyway, these calculators are out of context calculators, do a G25 for him so we can see where he plots.
    True. Gedmatch can be clunky.

    I need to reach out to Davidski. Currently have only G25 for myself. What is the link again? I am going to get it for his, my mothers, my fathers, and potentially a Montengro-Albanian Kit I sponsor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Target: Llap_Podujeva_Kosova
    Distance: 3.5667% / 3.56669023 | ADC: 1x


    85.0 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
    8.4 Serb_North-Macedonia
    4.8 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
    1.8 Albanian

    Target: Hawk
    Distance: 1.4737% / 1.47367874 | ADC: 1x


    61.8 Greek_Western-Macedonia
    24.6 Kosovo_Albanian
    13.6 Bulgarian_Plovdiv

    We have different results, i am shifted toward Thessaly/Greek Macedonia a lot, he is shifted toward Balkan Slavs. Anyway, these calculators are out of context calculators, do a G25 for him so we can see where he plots.
    Here is his MDLP K23b. Way more accurate

    Target: Llap_Podujeva_Kosova
    Distance: 2.6284% / 2.62839526 | ADC: 0.25x
    77.2 Kosovar

    12.6 Italian_Piedmont
    6.2 French
    3.0 BedouinB
    1.0 Pulliyar

    Target: Llap_Podujeva_Kosova
    Distance: 2.2664% / 2.26635308
    63.8 Kosovar

    13.6 Greek_Phokaia
    9.2 Croat_BH
    7.8 Basque_Spanish
    3.0 BedouinB
    1.0 Pulliyar
    1.0 Roma
    0.6 Sardinian

    Distance to: Llap_Podujeva_Kosova
    5.42985267 Kosovar
    5.81886587 Greek_Northwest
    7.08734083 Greek_Thessaly
    7.16335117 Albanian_Tirana

    7.49277652 Greek_Peloponnesos
    8.23400874 Greek_Thessaloniki
    8.73080752 Italian_Tuscan
    9.18487343 Italian_North
    9.35790575 Italian_Piedmont
    9.82243351 Central_Greek
    11.10060809 Italian_Abruzzo
    12.46762608 Ashkenazi
    12.56902940 Bulgarian
    12.71736215 Greek
    12.82840598 Sicilian_Siracusa
    13.00475682 Sicilian_West
    13.22702536 Romanian
    13.24917356 Ashkenazi_Jew
    13.41865493 Greek_Athens
    13.48640797 Italian_Bergamo
    13.49539922 Sicilian_Trapani
    13.55797182 Macedonian
    13.64933332 Greek_Macedonia
    13.82102746 Gagauz
    13.87436485 Greek_Phokaia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    Here is his MDLP K23b. Way more accurate

    Target: Llap_Podujeva_Kosova
    Distance: 2.6284% / 2.62839526 | ADC: 0.25x
    77.2 Kosovar

    12.6 Italian_Piedmont
    6.2 French
    3.0 BedouinB
    1.0 Pulliyar

    Target: Llap_Podujeva_Kosova
    Distance: 2.2664% / 2.26635308
    63.8 Kosovar

    13.6 Greek_Phokaia
    9.2 Croat_BH
    7.8 Basque_Spanish
    3.0 BedouinB
    1.0 Pulliyar
    1.0 Roma
    0.6 Sardinian

    Distance to: Llap_Podujeva_Kosova
    5.42985267 Kosovar
    5.81886587 Greek_Northwest
    7.08734083 Greek_Thessaly
    7.16335117 Albanian_Tirana

    7.49277652 Greek_Peloponnesos
    8.23400874 Greek_Thessaloniki
    8.73080752 Italian_Tuscan
    9.18487343 Italian_North
    9.35790575 Italian_Piedmont
    9.82243351 Central_Greek
    11.10060809 Italian_Abruzzo
    12.46762608 Ashkenazi
    12.56902940 Bulgarian
    12.71736215 Greek
    12.82840598 Sicilian_Siracusa
    13.00475682 Sicilian_West
    13.22702536 Romanian
    13.24917356 Ashkenazi_Jew
    13.41865493 Greek_Athens
    13.48640797 Italian_Bergamo
    13.49539922 Sicilian_Trapani
    13.55797182 Macedonian
    13.64933332 Greek_Macedonia
    13.82102746 Gagauz
    13.87436485 Greek_Phokaia

    Here is mine for comparison:

    Distance to: Hawk

    4.82787738 Albanian_Tirana
    5.02982107 Greek_Thessaloniki
    5.59347835 Greek_Thessaly
    5.81755963 Central_Greek
    6.18156129 Kosovar
    6.66300233 Greek_Northwest
    6.88271022 Greek_Peloponnesos
    8.72805247 Greek
    9.16654242 Greek_Macedonia
    9.19699407 Greek_Athens
    9.19924997 Gagauz
    9.82313596 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
    11.02965548 Bulgarian
    11.50143904 Ashkenazi
    11.50279966 Romanian
    12.10314009 Italian_South
    12.24657503 Greek_Phokaia
    12.65390058 Romanian_Jew
    12.69924407 Macedonian
    13.71561883 Ashkenazi_Jew
    13.93301834 Azov_Greek
    14.12670521 Sicilian_Siracusa
    14.29040937 Sicilian_Center
    14.29873771 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
    14.44387760 Italian_Tuscan

    Target: Hawk
    Distance: 2.8697% / 2.86971695 | ADC: 0.25x


    75.2 Kosovar
    12.4 Gagauz
    5.2 Georgian_Laz
    4.4 Georgian_Tbilisi
    2.8 Albanian_Tirana

    Target: Hawk
    Distance: 3.9387% / 3.93870247 | ADC: 0.5x


    84.6 Albanian_Tirana
    10.4 Gagauz
    3.0 Georgian_Tbilisi
    2.0 Kosovar

    Target: Hawk
    Distance: 4.7786% / 4.77859493 | ADC: 1x


    83.8 Albanian_Tirana
    16.2 Greek_Thessaloniki

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