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Thread: J-L70 Presence in the Middle East-North Africa

  1. #201
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    Two new samples from the Turkish WGS study:

    https://yfull.com/tree/J-S11348/

    https://yfull.com/tree/J-Z2148*/

    One at J-Z2148* and one in J-S11348 - which is looking strongly Anatolian.

    I look forward to the biographical information being released for all the samples.
    Other Y-DNA:

    Maternal 6X Great Grandfather J1-ZS10441

    Target: SUPREEEEEME_scaled
    Distance: 2.0548% / 0.02054790
    38.4 Levant_Ashkelon_LBA
    36.2 HRV_IA
    8.6 Canary_Islands_Guanche
    8.0 DEU_MA_Alemannic
    7.4 Baltic_LTU_Late_Antiquity_low_res
    1.4 CHN_Chuanyun_Historic

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPREEEEEME View Post
    Two new samples from the Turkish WGS study:

    https://yfull.com/tree/J-S11348/

    https://yfull.com/tree/J-Z2148*/

    One at J-Z2148* and one in J-S11348 - which is looking strongly Anatolian.

    I look forward to the biographical information being released for all the samples.
    Some guys in Turkish DNA revealed the autosomal results of some few samples.
    Can we also determine these L70 guys ? Do any of you guys know how to get the autosomals ?
    Target: EmreAltug_scaled
    Distance: 1.3564% / 0.01356424
    17.6 TKM_Parkhai_MBA
    16.6 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    15.0 HRV_Vucedol
    14.8 Levant_Megiddo_IA
    14.4 ARM_Areni_C
    4.8 EGY_Hellenistic
    4.8 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
    3.6 MNG_Center_West_LBA_5
    3.0 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA_o
    1.6 HUN_Prescythian_IA
    1.4 Corded_Ware_Proto-Unetice_POL
    1.4 Levant_PPNC

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    New participant under the Ashkenazi J-Z39491 with id:YF85306
    Target: EmreAltug_scaled
    Distance: 1.3564% / 0.01356424
    17.6 TKM_Parkhai_MBA
    16.6 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    15.0 HRV_Vucedol
    14.8 Levant_Megiddo_IA
    14.4 ARM_Areni_C
    4.8 EGY_Hellenistic
    4.8 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
    3.6 MNG_Center_West_LBA_5
    3.0 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA_o
    1.6 HUN_Prescythian_IA
    1.4 Corded_Ware_Proto-Unetice_POL
    1.4 Levant_PPNC

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    Hello to all of you, a new sample from the Turkish study on Yfull: Y24651*.

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    One more Turkish sample under J-CTS3601*
    Target: EmreAltug_scaled
    Distance: 1.3564% / 0.01356424
    17.6 TKM_Parkhai_MBA
    16.6 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    15.0 HRV_Vucedol
    14.8 Levant_Megiddo_IA
    14.4 ARM_Areni_C
    4.8 EGY_Hellenistic
    4.8 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
    3.6 MNG_Center_West_LBA_5
    3.0 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA_o
    1.6 HUN_Prescythian_IA
    1.4 Corded_Ware_Proto-Unetice_POL
    1.4 Levant_PPNC

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    Good to see some Middle Eastern representation on this branch:

    https://yfull.com/live/tree/J-FGC32690/
    Other Y-DNA:

    Maternal 6X Great Grandfather J1-ZS10441

    Target: SUPREEEEEME_scaled
    Distance: 2.0548% / 0.02054790
    38.4 Levant_Ashkelon_LBA
    36.2 HRV_IA
    8.6 Canary_Islands_Guanche
    8.0 DEU_MA_Alemannic
    7.4 Baltic_LTU_Late_Antiquity_low_res
    1.4 CHN_Chuanyun_Historic

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    Good day. A new Turkish sample PH185*

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    Another new sample from the Turkish study under J-PF5456*
    Target: EmreAltug_scaled
    Distance: 1.3564% / 0.01356424
    17.6 TKM_Parkhai_MBA
    16.6 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    15.0 HRV_Vucedol
    14.8 Levant_Megiddo_IA
    14.4 ARM_Areni_C
    4.8 EGY_Hellenistic
    4.8 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
    3.6 MNG_Center_West_LBA_5
    3.0 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA_o
    1.6 HUN_Prescythian_IA
    1.4 Corded_Ware_Proto-Unetice_POL
    1.4 Levant_PPNC

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    I got the autosomal results of the 8 samples from the Turkish study. Most of them are Anatolian and Balkan Turks , also one from Pontus region, and a Nusayri. The latter 2 are Z2177+ and PH185+.
    I'll be sharing them soon.
    Target: EmreAltug_scaled
    Distance: 1.3564% / 0.01356424
    17.6 TKM_Parkhai_MBA
    16.6 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
    15.0 HRV_Vucedol
    14.8 Levant_Megiddo_IA
    14.4 ARM_Areni_C
    4.8 EGY_Hellenistic
    4.8 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
    3.6 MNG_Center_West_LBA_5
    3.0 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA_o
    1.6 HUN_Prescythian_IA
    1.4 Corded_Ware_Proto-Unetice_POL
    1.4 Levant_PPNC

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    A Pontic J-L70 is quite a find. J-L70 is rare amongst them. Hundreds of them have tested with FamilyTreeDNA, but none are J-L70.

    It is reasonable to assume that SRS8752836 (Balkan Turk) is a Jewish exit given that he forms a clade with a Sephardic testee (many Jewish clades have a similar TMRCA of 2000 ybp). Quite a few individuals from this study are turning out to be Jewish exits. Given that his autosomal results don't show any recent Jewish ancestry, it would likely not be a recent exit.

    This would have implications for J-FGC58748 as a whole (and likely for J-Z40772 aswell)
    Other Y-DNA:

    Maternal 6X Great Grandfather J1-ZS10441

    Target: SUPREEEEEME_scaled
    Distance: 2.0548% / 0.02054790
    38.4 Levant_Ashkelon_LBA
    36.2 HRV_IA
    8.6 Canary_Islands_Guanche
    8.0 DEU_MA_Alemannic
    7.4 Baltic_LTU_Late_Antiquity_low_res
    1.4 CHN_Chuanyun_Historic

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