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    using G25 or direct to GEDmatch?
    If do you mean from G25, can you please give me "SOURCE" datas? I'm not still so able to understand which datas i have to use.
    Last edited by Diego.M˛chen; 09-23-2020 at 07:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diego.M˛chen View Post
    using G25 or direct to GEDmatch?
    If do you mean from G25, can you please give me "SOURCE" datas? I'm not still so able to understand which datas i have to use.
    Gedmatch or Admixture Studio.
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    Kit T226161

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 32.18
    2 West_Med 24.31
    3 East_Med 18.62
    4 Baltic 14.8
    5 West_Asian 7.21
    6 Red_Sea 2.84
    7 East_Asian 0.03

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 North_Italian 3.09
    2 Tuscan 8.21
    3 Portuguese 8.91
    4 Spanish_Extremadura 9.42
    5 Spanish_Galicia 9.97
    6 Spanish_Cataluna 10.45
    7 Spanish_Murcia 10.45
    8 Spanish_Valencia 10.54
    9 Spanish_Andalucia 10.75
    10 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.96
    11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 11.95
    12 French 12.7
    13 Spanish_Cantabria 13.2
    14 Romanian 13.29
    15 Greek_Thessaly 13.92
    16 Bulgarian 14.22
    17 Southwest_French 14.41
    18 Serbian 14.57
    19 Spanish_Aragon 14.78
    20 Italian_Abruzzo 14.96

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 87% North_Italian + 13% Hungarian @ 0.95
    2 86.5% North_Italian + 13.5% Austrian @ 0.99
    3 90.9% North_Italian + 9.1% South_Polish @ 1
    4 91.8% North_Italian + 8.2% Polish @ 1.03
    5 92.6% North_Italian + 7.4% Belorussian @ 1.05
    6 92.5% North_Italian + 7.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.08
    7 88% North_Italian + 12% East_German @ 1.08
    8 93.4% North_Italian + 6.6% Lithuanian @ 1.09
    9 93.1% North_Italian + 6.9% Estonian @ 1.1
    10 92.6% North_Italian + 7.4% Estonian_Polish @ 1.13
    11 92.4% North_Italian + 7.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.15
    12 92.3% North_Italian + 7.7% Southwest_Russian @ 1.18
    13 91.4% North_Italian + 8.6% Ukrainian @ 1.18
    14 92.4% North_Italian + 7.6% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.19
    15 91.1% North_Italian + 8.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.19
    16 88.9% North_Italian + 11.1% Croatian @ 1.19
    17 93.1% North_Italian + 6.9% Finnish @ 1.21
    18 93.5% North_Italian + 6.5% East_Finnish @ 1.34
    19 84% North_Italian + 16% Serbian @ 1.37
    20 93.2% North_Italian + 6.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 1.42
    My results:

    YDNA: R1b-U106 --> R-Z2265 --> BY30097 --> Z18 (positive to Z16 and Z14) --> FGC79182 --> Z17 --> Z372 --> S4037 --> CTS5860 (positive). First known ancestor : Simone L******, married in Mala (Fersental - italian Tirol) in 1537.

    mtDNA: H2a2a1g firs known ancestor: Lucia Tomasi born in Bedollo (italian Tirol) in early 1700 years.

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    let me know what do you think
    My results:

    YDNA: R1b-U106 --> R-Z2265 --> BY30097 --> Z18 (positive to Z16 and Z14) --> FGC79182 --> Z17 --> Z372 --> S4037 --> CTS5860 (positive). First known ancestor : Simone L******, married in Mala (Fersental - italian Tirol) in 1537.

    mtDNA: H2a2a1g firs known ancestor: Lucia Tomasi born in Bedollo (italian Tirol) in early 1700 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diego.M˛chen View Post
    let me know what do you think
    Quite typical Northeast Italian results. I assume you are a Italian-speaking Trentini?

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    Austrian Empire Republic of Venice Italy Trentino Alto Adige European Union
    exactly, and i also want to add that a part of my ancestors comes from german population that still today is settle in some little areas of Trentino.

    User Ph2ter showned me this pic, what do you think about this (it has been made with my G25 coordinates).

    G25 Distance Maps To Modern Europeans_forum Anthrogenia - settembre2020.png
    My results:

    YDNA: R1b-U106 --> R-Z2265 --> BY30097 --> Z18 (positive to Z16 and Z14) --> FGC79182 --> Z17 --> Z372 --> S4037 --> CTS5860 (positive). First known ancestor : Simone L******, married in Mala (Fersental - italian Tirol) in 1537.

    mtDNA: H2a2a1g firs known ancestor: Lucia Tomasi born in Bedollo (italian Tirol) in early 1700 years.

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    You have some Slavic admixture in your autosomal profile witch is normal since many northeast italians and even Austrians do show Slavic DNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diego.M˛chen View Post
    exactly, and i also want to add that a part of my ancestors comes from german population that still today is settle in some little areas of Trentino.

    User Ph2ter showned me this pic, what do you think about this (it has been made with my G25 coordinates).

    G25 Distance Maps To Modern Europeans_forum Anthrogenia - settembre2020.png
    Interesting, you are more northern-shifted in Global25. How distant is your Mocheno ancestry?

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    in reality not so much, i mean, is not so simple to determinate this distance.
    I try to add this map to explain what i mean.

    My direct "mocheno" ancestor, traced in early 1500, and his descendants has settled in Fersental till early 1900.
    So the whole branch mixed sometimes with italian speaker an sometimes with other german speaker.

    This happened still for other "non-mocheno" branches of my family.

    for example, one of my mother's branch (who mainly comes from an other valley of Trentino) comes from the PinŔ plateau (just in part of Fersental).
    In this PinŔ plateau, today pepople speak italian, but in the past (untill the end of 1700) there where people speaking German, this because in this areas has settled same
    people who colonized Fersental. So we could afford that still my mother has german ancestors, and this fact happened scattered in all my family tree.

    I want to show this map, it is hasn't a good resolution, but you can appreciate mainly german settlement of trentino and north veneto in a period that go back 1800-1700 century. If you want to refer to a modern map, let's take Garda Lake and Trient as reference points.

    52633970_628092140966555_800515804427714560_o.jpg
    My results:

    YDNA: R1b-U106 --> R-Z2265 --> BY30097 --> Z18 (positive to Z16 and Z14) --> FGC79182 --> Z17 --> Z372 --> S4037 --> CTS5860 (positive). First known ancestor : Simone L******, married in Mala (Fersental - italian Tirol) in 1537.

    mtDNA: H2a2a1g firs known ancestor: Lucia Tomasi born in Bedollo (italian Tirol) in early 1700 years.

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