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    Coptic J1-p58 to yemen

    Is it possible that the basal lineages of J1-p58 were then carried over to abyssians and from there into yemen? And then from yemen to the rest of the arabian peninsula?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisdandy View Post
    Is it possible that the basal lineages of J1-p58 were then carried over to abyssians and from there into yemen? And then from yemen to the rest of the arabian peninsula?
    J1-P58 in the Horn originated in Yemen and came over with South Semitic speakers.The J1 in Somalia are descendants of more recent assimilated Yemeni migrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    J1-P58 in the Horn originated in Yemen and came over with South Semitic speakers.The J1 in Somalia are descendants of more recent assimilated Yemeni migrants.
    Ok so it wasnt the other way around? So how did basal j1-p58 come into egypt? Sinai?

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    I'm not sure about the history of J1 in Egypt but I'm 100% sure that the Horn didn't receive any Semitic migration from the North

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisdandy View Post
    Is it possible that the basal lineages of J1-p58 were then carried over to abyssians and from there into yemen? And then from yemen to the rest of the arabian peninsula?
    Most likely first from Caucasus or from northern Iran then to fertile crescent and then from there to further south and west.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisdandy View Post
    Is it possible that the basal lineages of J1-p58 were then carried over to abyssians and from there into yemen? And then from yemen to the rest of the arabian peninsula?
    Doubt it. The Arabian peninsula has the most diverse presence of J1 itself. Apart from J1a (including both branches of P58), there's J1b (Yemen) and J1c (new YFull sample from KSA) in the Arabian peninsula.

    So it's most likely the other way around - Yemen to the Horn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejkhan View Post
    Doubt it. The Arabian peninsula has the most diverse presence of J1 itself. Apart from J1a (including both branches of P58), there's J1b (Yemen) and J1c (new YFull sample from KSA) in the Arabian peninsula.

    So it's most likely the other way around - Yemen to the Horn.
    Let us see if you can solve this puzzle then. https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-ZS3698/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jatt1 View Post
    Let us see if you can solve this puzzle then. https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-ZS3698/
    What exactly are you contesting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejkhan View Post
    What exactly are you contesting?
    Not contesting anything but looking for information. There was a kit on yfulltree 11/18/2019 New sample YF66089 in subclade J-Z1853* from Russia Chechenia, it shows up no more. Kit from India belongs to my brother. I thought you may have better knowledge and may help to solve the puzzle, just trying to find my roots, nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jatt1 View Post
    Not contesting anything but looking for information. There was a kit on yfulltree 11/18/2019 New sample YF66089 in subclade J-Z1853* from Russia Chechenia, it shows up no more. Kit from India belongs to my brother. I thought you may have better knowledge and may help to solve the puzzle, just trying to find my roots, nothing else.
    As you have figured out I'm sure, your clade is likely associated with IE migrations because the sample closest to your lineage is Norwegian. Just speculating now - maybe it's part of the same migration that took the Chechen J-Z1853* northward across the Northern Caucasus mountains.

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