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    Lightbulb G25 detailed ancestry breakdown

    Hi,

    I've prepared a tool to generate a multi-level ancestry breakdown using G25 scaled coordinates data.

    The model is based on an excellent G25 calculator by SUPREEEEEME: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....LED)-G25-Model but any G25 model could be used and extended for this tool.

    My results (with penalty=0):

    Code:
    Total:100.0%
    	East_Europe:98.7%
    		West_Slavic:68.1%
    			Polish:68.1%
    		Baltic:27.7%
    			Lithuanian_SZ:27.7%
    		Northeast_Finno-Ugric:2.9%
    			Khanty:2.9%
    	North_Africa:0.5%
    		Western_North_Africa:0.5%
    			Berber_MAR_ERR:0.5%
    	West_Asia:0.3%
    		Arabia:0.3%
    			Yemenite_Al_Bayda:0.3%
    	South_Asia:0.3%
    		South_India:0.3%
    			Hakkipikki:0.2%
    			Pallan:0.1%
    	Africa:0.2%
    		Khoisan:0.2%
    			Khomani_San:0.2%
    My results (with penalty=0.001):

    Code:
    Total:100.0%
    	East_Europe:96.8%
    		West_Slavic:77.4%
    			Polish:76.1%
    			Slovakian:1.3%
    		Baltic:8.3%
    			Lithuanian_SZ:3.9%
    			Lithuanian_PZ:2.8%
    			Latvian:1.2%
    			Lithuanian_RA:0.4%
    		East_Slavic:5.6%
    			Ukrainian:5.5%
    			Cossack_Ukrainian:0.1%
    		West_Finno-Ugric:5.2%
    			Finnish_East:2.2%
    			Karelian:1.5%
    			Estonian:1.1%
    			Vepsian:0.4%
    		Southeast_Finno-Ugric:0.2%
    			Mari:0.2%
    		Northeast_Finno-Ugric:0.1%
    			Khanty:0.1%
    	South_Asia:2.4%
    		South_India:2.4%
    			Pallan:2.4%
    	North_Asia:0.3%
    		North_Asian:0.1%
    			Chukchi:0.1%
    		West_Turkic:0.1%
    			Karakalpak:0.1%
    		East_Turkic:0.1%
    			Kirghiz:0.1%
    	West_Asia:0.1%
    		Afghan:0.1%
    			Yusufzai:0.1%
    	America:0.1%
    		Indigenous_Canadian:0.1%
    			Cree:0.1%
    	Melanesian:0.1%
    		Kosipe:0.1%
    	North_Africa:0.1%
    		Western_North_Africa:0.1%
    			Berber_MAR_TIZ:0.1%
    	East_Asia:0.1%
    		Japan_&_Korea:0.1%
    			Korean:0.1%
    As you can see some breakdowns could be quite long and there is some noise.

    If you are interested in such ancestry breakdown please post your G25 scaled coordinates and donate me on paypal:

    https://paypal.me/pools/c/8o0Bvira2g

    Feel free to donate any amount of money you are comfortable with if you appreciate my work.

    If you have any additional questions just let me know via email: michalm3141@gmail.com

    Please take into consideration it takes about 5-10 minutes for me to generate the results for one sample.
    Last edited by michal3141; 04-05-2020 at 09:37 PM.

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    Tim_G_father_scaled,0.137726,0.139128,0.060339,0.0 39406,0.044008,0.017291,0.00517,0.011538,0.007772,-0.001276,-0.002923,0.004646,-0.010109,-0.003991,0.029858,0.001724,-0.021122,0.005448,0.002514,0.007003,0.009234,0.003 833,-0.004067,0.007832,-0.001676

    Tim_Mother_test_Scaled,0.12179,0.122878,0.069391,0 .05491,0.042778,0.021195,0,-0.005538,0.006136,0.000182,-0.002273,0.005544,-0.010703,-0.018303,0.025788,0.011004,-0.021384,0.006208,0.001256,-0.003501,-0.0005,-0.000123,-0.000369,0.009278,-0.00455
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    WolfDeer_scaled,0.129758,0.13405,0.060716,0.043605 ,0.038161,0.01506,0.002115,0.005538,0.001227,-0.000911,-0.008282,0.003297,-0.007433,-0.011423,0.021308,0.019225,0.011865,-0.002407,-0.003394,0.010005,0.001872,-0.000742,0.007272,0.019159,-0.001197

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    WolfDeer,0.0114,0.0132,0.0161,0.0135,0.0124,0.0054 ,0.0009,0.0024,0.0006,-0.0005,-0.0051,0.0022,-0.005,-0.0083,0.0157,0.0145,0.0091,-0.0019,-0.0027,0.008,0.0015,-0.0006,0.0059,0.0159,-0.001

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    Tim_G_scaled,0.129758,0.131003,0.064865,0.047158,0 .043393,0.019243,0.002585,0.003,0.006954,-0.000547,-0.002598,0.005095,-0.010406,-0.011147,0.027823,0.006364,-0.021253,0.005828,0.001885,0.001751,0.004367,0.001 855,-0.002218,0.008555,-0.003113

    Tim_G_father_scaled,0.137726,0.139128,0.060339,0.0 39406,0.044008,0.017291,0.00517,0.011538,0.007772,-0.001276,-0.002923,0.004646,-0.010109,-0.003991,0.029858,0.001724,-0.021122,0.005448,0.002514,0.007003,0.009234,0.003 833,-0.004067,0.007832,-0.001676

    Tim_Mother_test_Scaled,0.12179,0.122878,0.069391,0 .05491,0.042778,0.021195,0,-0.005538,0.006136,0.000182,-0.002273,0.005544,-0.010703,-0.018303,0.025788,0.011004,-0.021384,0.006208,0.001256,-0.003501,-0.0005,-0.000123,-0.000369,0.009278,-0.00455
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    Models are quite noisy as usual but I hope at least somewhat correct and interesting for you!

    Tim with penalty=0:

    Code:
    Total:100.0%
    	West_Europe:96.3%
    		Celtic:59.4%
    			Scottish:59.4%
    		Scandinavia:33.2%
    			Icelandic:33.2%
    		English:3.7%
    			English_Cornwall:3.7%
    	South_Europe:2.6%
    		Iberian:2.6%
    			Spanish_Asturias:2.6%
    	East_Asia:0.7%
    		Taiwanese:0.7%
    			Igorot:0.7%
    	Africa:0.2%
    		Khoisan:0.2%
    			Ju_hoan_North:0.2%
    	West_Asia:0.1%
    		Arabia:0.1%
    			Yemenite_Mahra:0.1%
    	America:0.1%
    		South_Amerindian:0.1%
    			Karitiana:0.1%
    Tim with penalty=0.001:

    Code:
    Total:100.0%
    	West_Europe:99.4%
    		Celtic:82.8%
    			Scottish:81.7%
    			Irish:1.0%
    			Welsh:0.1%
    		Scandinavia:16.2%
    			Icelandic:16.0%
    			Swedish:0.2%
    		English:0.4%
    			English_Cornwall:0.3%
    			English:0.1%
    	East_Asia:0.3%
    		Taiwanese:0.1%
    			Dusun:0.1%
    		Southeast_China:0.1%
    			She:0.1%
    		East_Southeast_Asian:0.1%
    			Indonesian_Bali:0.1%
    	East_Europe:0.2%
    		West_Finno-Ugric:0.2%
    			Finnish_East:0.1%
    			Saami:0.1%
    	South_Europe:0.1%
    		Iberian:0.1%
    			Spanish_Asturias:0.1%

    Your father with penalty=0:

    Code:
    Total:100.0%
    	West_Europe:93.8%
    		English:54.6%
    			English_Cornwall:54.6%
    		Scandinavia:39.2%
    			Icelandic:39.2%
    	South_Europe:2.5%
    		Iberian:2.5%
    			Spanish_Asturias:2.5%
    	West_Asia:2.4%
    		Arabia:2.4%
    			Yemenite_Mahra:2.4%
    	East_Europe:1.3%
    		Baltic:1.3%
    			Lithuanian_PZ:1.3%
    Your father with penalty=0.001:

    Code:
    Total:100.0%
    	West_Europe:99.2%
    		English:84.8%
    			English_Cornwall:57.3%
    			English:27.5%
    		Scandinavia:14.4%
    			Icelandic:12.5%
    			Swedish:1.9%
    	South_Europe:0.4%
    		Iberian:0.4%
    			Spanish_Asturias:0.4%
    	East_Europe:0.3%
    		West_Slavic:0.2%
    			Czech:0.2%
    		East_Slavic:0.1%
    			Belarusian:0.1%
    	West_Asia:0.1%
    		South_Caucasus:0.1%
    			Turkish_Trabzon:0.1%
    Your mother with penalty=0:

    Code:
    Total:100.0%
    	West_Europe:96.6%
    		Celtic:56.1%
    			Irish:46.4%
    			Scottish:9.7%
    		Scandinavia:40.5%
    			Icelandic:40.5%
    	America:1.7%
    		South_Amerindian:1.7%
    			Karitiana:1.7%
    	Africa:1.1%
    		Khoisan:1.1%
    			Khomani_San:0.8%
    			Ju_hoan_North:0.3%
    	East_Asia:0.6%
    		Taiwanese:0.6%
    			Igorot:0.6%
    Your mother with default penalty=0.001:

    Code:
    Total:100.0%
    	West_Europe:97.2%
    		Celtic:70.6%
    			Scottish:57.6%
    			Irish:13.0%
    		Scandinavia:26.6%
    			Norwegian:13.9%
    			Icelandic:12.7%
    	East_Europe:1.6%
    		West_Finno-Ugric:1.0%
    			Finnish_East:0.4%
    			Karelian:0.3%
    			Saami:0.3%
    		Southeast_Finno-Ugric:0.5%
    			Udmurt:0.4%
    			Mari:0.1%
    		Northeast_Finno-Ugric:0.1%
    			Mansi:0.1%
    	America:0.9%
    		Central_Amerindian:0.4%
    			Nahua:0.2%
    			Zapotec:0.2%
    		Indigenous_American:0.2%
    			Amerindian_North:0.1%
    			Chipewyan:0.1%
    		Alaskan:0.1%
    			Tlingit:0.1%
    		Indigenous_Canadian:0.1%
    			Cree:0.1%
    		South_Amerindian:0.1%
    			Aymara:0.1%
    	Africa:0.2%
    		North_Nilotic:0.1%
    			Ethiopian_Anuak:0.1%
    		North_Cushitic:0.1%
    			Somali:0.1%
    	South_Asia:0.1%
    		Northeast_India:0.1%
    			Bhumij:0.1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf-Deer View Post
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    WolfDeer_scaled,0.129758,0.13405,0.060716,0.043605 ,0.038161,0.01506,0.002115,0.005538,0.001227,-0.000911,-0.008282,0.003297,-0.007433,-0.011423,0.021308,0.019225,0.011865,-0.002407,-0.003394,0.010005,0.001872,-0.000742,0.007272,0.019159,-0.001197

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    WolfDeer,0.0114,0.0132,0.0161,0.0135,0.0124,0.0054 ,0.0009,0.0024,0.0006,-0.0005,-0.0051,0.0022,-0.005,-0.0083,0.0157,0.0145,0.0091,-0.0019,-0.0027,0.008,0.0015,-0.0006,0.0059,0.0159,-0.001

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    Your results below

    With penalty=0:

    Code:
    Total:100.0%
    	West_Europe:81.6%
    		Scandinavia:70.5%
    			Norwegian:70.5%
    		French:11.1%
    			French_Paris:11.1%
    	East_Europe:15.2%
    		West_Slavic:12.7%
    			Slovakian:12.7%
    		Northeast_Caucasus:2.5%
    			Lak:2.5%
    	West_Asia:1.9%
    		West_Levant:1.9%
    			Palestinian_Beit_Sahour:1.9%
    	North_Africa:1.3%
    		Western_North_Africa:1.3%
    			Berber_MAR_TIZ:1.3%
    With penalty=0.001:

    (This model gives you more Germanic and less Slavic ancestry than with penalty=0)

    Code:
    Total:100.0%
    	West_Europe:94.1%
    		Scandinavia:73.7%
    			Norwegian:73.7%
    		Germanic:17.2%
    			Dutch:11.7%
    			German:3.6%
    			Belgian:1.1%
    			Austrian:0.8%
    		French:2.5%
    			French_Paris:1.6%
    			French_Alsace:0.6%
    			French_Auvergne:0.2%
    			French_Occitanie:0.1%
    		Celtic:0.7%
    			Welsh:0.7%
    	East_Europe:3.4%
    		West_Slavic:2.0%
    			Slovakian:1.5%
    			Czech:0.5%
    		Balkan:0.5%
    			Bosnian:0.4%
    			Romanian:0.1%
    		Northeast_Caucasus:0.5%
    			Avar:0.2%
    			Chechen:0.1%
    			Darginian:0.1%
    			Kaitag:0.1%
    		Northwest_Caucasus:0.4%
    			Adygei:0.2%
    			Abkhasian:0.2%
    	South_Europe:2.0%
    		Central_Italy:0.7%
    			Italian_Marche:0.2%
    			Italian_Tuscany:0.2%
    			Italian_Umbria:0.2%
    			Italian_Molise:0.1%
    		Iberian:0.6%
    			Spanish_Eivissa:0.2%
    			Portuguese:0.2%
    			Spanish_Aragon:0.1%
    			Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:0.1%
    		North_Italy:0.4%
    			Italian_Bergamo:0.2%
    			Italian_Veneto:0.2%
    		Greek:0.3%
    			Greek_Peloponnese:0.1%
    			Greek_Thessaly:0.1%
    			Greek_Crete:0.1%
    	West_Asia:0.4%
    		West_Levant:0.1%
    			Lebanese_Druze:0.1%
    		Arabia:0.1%
    			Yemenite_Mahra:0.1%
    		East_Levant:0.1%
    			Palestinian:0.1%
    		Anatolian:0.1%
    			Turkish_Adana:0.1%
    	North_Africa:0.1%
    		Eastern_North_Africa:0.1%
    			Berber_Tunisia_Sen:0.1%
    EDIT:
    I think this second model (with default penalty) is better for you.
    Last edited by michal3141; 04-05-2020 at 10:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michal3141 View Post
    Thank you for donation!

    Your results below

    With penalty=0:

    Code:
    Total:100.0%
    	West_Europe:81.6%
    		Scandinavia:70.5%
    			Norwegian:70.5%
    		French:11.1%
    			French_Paris:11.1%
    	East_Europe:15.2%
    		West_Slavic:12.7%
    			Slovakian:12.7%
    		Northeast_Caucasus:2.5%
    			Lak:2.5%
    	West_Asia:1.9%
    		West_Levant:1.9%
    			Palestinian_Beit_Sahour:1.9%
    	North_Africa:1.3%
    		Western_North_Africa:1.3%
    			Berber_MAR_TIZ:1.3%
    With penalty=0.001:

    (This model gives you more Germanic and less Slavic ancestry than with penalty=0)

    Code:
    Total:100.0%
    	West_Europe:94.1%
    		Scandinavia:73.7%
    			Norwegian:73.7%
    		Germanic:17.2%
    			Dutch:11.7%
    			German:3.6%
    			Belgian:1.1%
    			Austrian:0.8%
    		French:2.5%
    			French_Paris:1.6%
    			French_Alsace:0.6%
    			French_Auvergne:0.2%
    			French_Occitanie:0.1%
    		Celtic:0.7%
    			Welsh:0.7%
    	East_Europe:3.4%
    		West_Slavic:2.0%
    			Slovakian:1.5%
    			Czech:0.5%
    		Balkan:0.5%
    			Bosnian:0.4%
    			Romanian:0.1%
    		Northeast_Caucasus:0.5%
    			Avar:0.2%
    			Chechen:0.1%
    			Darginian:0.1%
    			Kaitag:0.1%
    		Northwest_Caucasus:0.4%
    			Adygei:0.2%
    			Abkhasian:0.2%
    	South_Europe:2.0%
    		Central_Italy:0.7%
    			Italian_Marche:0.2%
    			Italian_Tuscany:0.2%
    			Italian_Umbria:0.2%
    			Italian_Molise:0.1%
    		Iberian:0.6%
    			Spanish_Eivissa:0.2%
    			Portuguese:0.2%
    			Spanish_Aragon:0.1%
    			Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:0.1%
    		North_Italy:0.4%
    			Italian_Bergamo:0.2%
    			Italian_Veneto:0.2%
    		Greek:0.3%
    			Greek_Peloponnese:0.1%
    			Greek_Thessaly:0.1%
    			Greek_Crete:0.1%
    	West_Asia:0.4%
    		West_Levant:0.1%
    			Lebanese_Druze:0.1%
    		Arabia:0.1%
    			Yemenite_Mahra:0.1%
    		East_Levant:0.1%
    			Palestinian:0.1%
    		Anatolian:0.1%
    			Turkish_Adana:0.1%
    	North_Africa:0.1%
    		Eastern_North_Africa:0.1%
    			Berber_Tunisia_Sen:0.1%
    EDIT:
    I think this second model (with default penalty) is better for you.
    Thank you Michal .

    The second one certainly makes more sense. That's some strong Scandinavian though, interesting.

    Thank you

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    T2b - Tara

    What is the signifance of this ? Like I just wanna know wht it will show me

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisdandy View Post
    What is the signifance of this ? Like I just wanna know wht it will show me
    Basically this is ethnicity estimate similar to estimates provided by genetic testing companies such as AncestryDNA, 23andMe, FTDNA etc.
    It is based on G25 and nMonte. You have examples of results above.

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    Kenya
    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Rashid_scaled,-0.557733,0.070072,0.012822,-0.005491,-0.002154,-0.000279,-0.008695,0.022845,0.005522,-0.019317,-0.000162,0.006444,-0.012636,-0.001927,-0.003393,-0.001061,-0.000261,-0.00038,-0.00352,0.005378,0.002745,0.007666,0.003944,-0.002169,-0.000718

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Rashid,-0.049,0.0069,0.0034,-0.0017,-0.0007,-0.0001,-0.0037,0.0099,0.0027,-0.0106,-0.0001,0.0043,-0.0085,-0.0014,-0.0025,-0.0008,-0.0002,-0.0003,-0.0028,0.0043,0.0022,0.0062,0.0032,-0.0018,-0.0006
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    96.3% Sub-Saharan African
    95.9% Southern East African
    0.4% Angolan & Congolese

    3.4% Central & South Asian
    3.4% Central Asian

    0.3% Unassigned

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