Which group is genetically more Levanite, Lebanese or Palestinian Christians?

[Dewsloth]

Mom's results, 7 Christian "Lebanese" great-grandparents born in the 19th cent, one Armenian great-grandfather (so she may exhibit some pull to the NE):

Distance to: DewslothMom_scaled
0.02564413 Levant_LBN_MA
0.02599229 Levant_LBN_Roman
0.03707480 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
0.03909758 Anatolia_Ovaoren_EBA
0.04077012 Levant_Canaanite_MBA
0.04125967 IND_Roopkund_B_o
0.04188566 Levant_LBN_MA_o3
0.04381826 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
0.04649365 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2
0.04748353 ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.05042246 Levant_ISR_MLBA
0.05073781 ITA_Collegno_MA_o1
0.05114107 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1
0.05559179 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
0.05625645 Anatolia_Barcin_C
0.05846513 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
0.06162692 IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C
0.06512466 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA_o
0.07028337 IND_Roopkund_B
0.07339622 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
0.07356796 ITA_Sardinia_Late_Antiquity
0.07377218 Ostrogothic_Crimea_ACD
0.07521298 ARM_Areni_C
0.07685994 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
0.07888683 Levant_JOR_EBA

Target: DewslothMom_scaled
Distance: 0.6675% / 0.00667462
23.6 Levant_PPNC
12.0 TKM_Sumbar_LBA
9.8 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
9.4 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kalavan
8.4 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
7.4 Levant_LBN_MA
4.6 GRC_Minoan_Lassithi
4.0 TKM_Gonur3_BA
3.6 Levant_JOR_EBA
3.0 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
2.6 RUS_Maykop_Novosvobodnaya
2.6 USA_colonial_period
1.8 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA
1.6 MKD_N
1.6 RUS_Alan_MA
1.4 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Talin
1.0 RUS_Kubano-Tersk
0.4 Anatolia_Barcin_C
0.4 DEU_MA_o
0.4 LAO_LN_BA
0.2 BGR_IA
0.2 ZAF_2100BP

Edit: Moderns:

Distance to: DewslothMom_scaled
0.01677597 Druze
0.01967495 Lebanese_Druze
0.02020828 Lebanese_Christian
0.02514901 Cypriot
0.02539458 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.02810177 Lebanese_Muslim
0.02921977 Karaite_Egypt
0.03063383 Syrian_Jew
0.03405758 Iraqi_Jew
0.04103243 Samaritan
0.04150630 Iranian_Jew
0.04152754 Romaniote_Jew
0.04197251 Syrian
0.04215081 Georgian_Jew
0.04280461 Assyrian
0.04311491 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.04680930 Armenian
0.04712804 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.04999879 Sephardic_Jew
0.05091373 Tunisian_Jew
0.05098221 Greek_Kos
0.05108900 Jordanian
0.05170682 Libyan_Jew
0.05317664 Italian_Jew
0.05520402 Turkish_Trabzon

Target: DewslothMom_scaled
Distance: 1.0363% / 0.01036270
48.4 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
23.4 Greek_Trabzon
14.6 Cypriot
9.2 Samaritan
1.6 Yemenite_Mahra
1.2 Sardinian
0.6 Yakut
0.4 Mbuti
0.2 Ju_hoan_North
0.2 Koinanbe
0.2 Lebbo

[Dewsloth]

Samaritans, scaled:

Distance to: Samaritan
0.02163410 Levant_Canaanite_MBA
0.02287706 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
0.03115637 Levant_LBN_Roman
0.03127514 Levant_LBN_MA
0.03524076 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2
0.04287756 Levant_ISR_MLBA
0.04840492 Levant_LBN_MA_o3
0.05328437 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
0.05712025 Levant_JOR_EBA
0.06268079 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1
0.06392600 Anatolia_Ovaoren_EBA
0.06508686 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
0.06627914 IND_Roopkund_B_o
0.06669452 EGY_Late_Period
0.06728954 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
0.06903536 ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.07418887 ITA_Collegno_MA_o1
0.07571905 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA_o
0.07730470 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
0.07802007 EGY_Hellenistic
0.08069435 Levant_ISR_C
0.08256876 IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C
0.08334494 Anatolia_Barcin_C
0.08449830 ITA_Sardinia_Late_Antiquity
0.09205715 IND_Roopkund_B

Target: Samaritan
Distance: 0.9270% / 0.00926980
33.8 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
21.6 Levant_ISR_C
17.2 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
10.4 TKM_Parkhai_MBA
6.2 EGY_Hellenistic
5.2 Levant_Natufian
3.0 Levant_PPNC
1.0 Baltic_LVA_BA
0.8 Anatolia_Kumtepe_N_low_res
0.8 Levant_Canaanite_MBA

[Alexander87]

What calculators are you guys using for these nmonte results?

[Dewsloth]

for me, raw vahaduo

[Alexander87]

Silly question ............whats religion got to do with a geographical term as in levant? ..............and also how many generations are you asking about 2, 3, 50, 100 ?

oldest I recall is for northern levant .........was hittite mixed with luwian

and palestians came via eastern crete - minoans ................that is the latest studies I have seen

How much, genetically speaking, did the minoans influence the Levant?

[Alexander87]

for me, raw vahaduo

Raw vahaduo? You mean the website with all the gedmatch calculators? Like for your mom results are you going off of eurogenes k13 ancient? I don't know what you mean by raw vahaduo.

[Dewsloth]

Raw vahaduo? You mean the website with all the gedmatch calculators? Like for your mom results are you going off of eurogenes k13 ancient? I don't know what you mean by raw vahaduo.

This site: https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

using G25 coordinates from this site: http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/0...obal25_12.html

[Johnny ola]

How much, genetically speaking, did the minoans influence the Levant?

Not exactly minoans but more specific the infamous sea people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Peoples


Philistine people were aegean and anatolian like.

[xripkan]

I think Ashkelon_IA1067 is a good example how were genetically the Sea people who settled the Levant area. A mix of Aegean (Minoan-like) and Luwian/Hettites people. Most of the other Ashkelon IA1 samples have some local/Levantine influence.

[Johnny ola]

I think Ashkelon_IA1067 is a good example how were genetically the Sea people who settled the Levant area. A mix of Aegean (Minoan-like) and Luwian/Hettites people. Most of the other Ashkelon IA1 samples have some local/Levantine influence.

Yes.Also the arzawa league was probably their stronghold and later the Lukka lands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arzawa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lukka_lands