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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirtan24 View Post
    The mixed-mode oracles still look a bit weird for me:



    I am more SI-shifted than almost all these communities!

    The 4-way oracles are closer to reality. Do you know what might be causing this issue?
    I'm the base sample of Punjabi Ramgarhia. I just ran the 2-way and confirmed it. I think the Punjabi Khatri/Arora includes some outlier high SI samples. If I remember properly, you're not far off from me on harappa.

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  3. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirtan24 View Post
    The mixed-mode oracles still look a bit weird for me:

    I am more SI-shifted than almost all these communities!

    The 4-way oracles are closer to reality. Do you know what might be causing this issue?
    The HarappaWorld extended oracles are user compiled so they can be a bit hit or miss. The sheet contains samples that are somewhat problematic when viewed in the context of their community/group.

    Code:
    Khatri/Arora
    
    S-Indian:           	40.22%
    Baloch:             	37.55%
    Caucasian:          	9.32%
    NE-Euro:            	7.00%
    Siberian:           	0.96%
    NE-Asian:           	0.09%
    Papuan:             	0.86%
    American:           	2.03%
    Beringian:          	0.26%
    SW-Asian:           	1.72%
    
    Punjabi_Jatt
    
    S-Indian:           	37.31%
    Baloch:             	34.64%
    Caucasian:          	10.10%
    NE-Euro:            	10.19%
    Siberian:           	1.03%
    NE-Asian:           	0.79%
    Papuan:             	0.15%
    American:           	0.88%
    Beringian:          	1.29%
    Mediterranean:      	1.39%
    SW-Asian:           	2.22%
    These may very well be samples that belong to these communities, but given that they are clearly outliers we've removed them from the sheet.
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    I believe the Khatri/Arora is from my spreadsheet. They aren't fully Punjabi Khatri/Arora but half Punjabi Khatri/Arora and half Baniya. They showed up in some Khatri/Arora matches and were listed separately to the other Khatri/Arora samples but somehow treated as fully Punjabi Khatri/Arora on admixture studio. Thanks for removing them. The Punjabi Jatt is likely one of the kits belonging to the forum member Dr_McNinja who is Pakistani Punjabi and seems to have some type of non Punjabi Jatt admixture whether from Delhi or some place else. It's hard to say as I don't believe he is aware of any recent non Punjabi Jatt ancestry.
    Last edited by Sapporo; 01-15-2021 at 10:34 PM.
    pegasus modeling:
    sample": "Punjabi_Jat:Sapporo_AGUser",
    "fit": 1.1506,
    "IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3": 43.33,
    "TKM_Gonur1_BA": 31.67,
    "RUS_Sintashta_MLBA": 25,
    "closestDistances": [

    avatar credit goes out to aaronbee2010

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    Not entirely unexpected I suppose..


    Mixed Mode:
    1 51.17% gujarati + 48.83% phalura @ 1.338
    2 50.39% phalura + 49.61% gujarati @ 1.379
    3 52.73% meghawal2 + 47.27% phalura @ 1.576
    4 76.17% kashmiri-pandit + 23.83% up-kshatriya @ 1.607
    5 55.08% gujarati-b + 44.92% phalura @ 1.608
    6 64.45% phalura + 35.55% gujarati-patel @ 1.629
    7 51.95% phalura + 48.05% iyer-brahmin @ 1.634
    8 50.39% phalura + 49.61% tn-brahmin @ 1.665
    9 80.86% kashmiri-pandit + 19.14% oriya @ 1.672
    10 50.39% tn-brahmin + 49.61% phalura @ 1.676

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 populations approximation
    1 100% Punjabi_Jatt_Balham @ 2.563
    2 100% punjabi-brahmin @ 3.504
    3 100% singapore-indian-c @ 3.777
    4 100% Bhumihar_Brahmin @ 3.831
    5 100% Rajput_Minhas @ 3.858
    6 100% punjabi @ 3.897
    7 100% Punjabi_Jatt_Pansota @ 3.985
    8 100% punjabi-saini @ 3.998
    9 100% kashmiri-pandit @ 4.003
    10 100% Punjabi_Brahmin @ 4.034

    Using 2 populations approximation
    1 50% gujarati + 50% phalura @ 1.357
    2 50% phalura + 50% tn-brahmin @ 1.667
    3 50% meghawal2 + 50% phalura @ 1.694
    4 50% phalura + 50% iyer-brahmin @ 1.702
    5 50% phalura + 50% kerala-nair @ 2.002
    6 50% gujarati-b + 50% phalura @ 2.034
    7 50% brahmin-tamil-nadu + 50% phalura @ 2.068
    8 50% maharashtrian + 50% phalura @ 2.093
    9 50% phalura + 50% South_Indian_Brahmin @ 2.102
    10 50% phalura + 50% iyengar-brahmin @ 2.103

    Using 3 populations approximation
    1 33% phalura + 33% phalura + 33% gujarati-patel @ 1.835
    2 33% phalura + 33% phalura + 33% SiS_BA3 @ 1.845
    3 33% punjabi-ramgarhia + 33% Punjabi_Jatt_Bhatti + 33% Punjabi_Khatri/Arora @ 1.855
    4 33% Gujjar_No_Caste + 33% SIndhi_Lohana + 33% brahmin-uttar-pradesh @ 1.863
    5 33% Sindhi_Hindu_No_caste + 33% Sindhi_Hindu_No_caste + 33% oriya @ 1.879
    6 33% Punjabi_No_caste + 33% Punjabi_No_caste + 33% kalash @ 1.883
    7 33% Punjabi_Jatt + 33% Punjabi_Jatt + 33% kerala-christian @ 1.897
    8 33% pushtikar-brahmin + 33% Punjabi_Jatt_Shergill + 33% gujarati-b @ 1.900
    9 33% SIndhi_Lohana + 33% Punjabi_Jatt_Bajwa + 33% up-kshatriya @ 1.919
    10 33% kashmiri-pandit + 33% kashmiri-pandit + 33% Punjabi_No_caste @ 1.924

    Using 4 populations approximation
    1 25% kashmiri-pandit + 25% kashmiri-pandit + 25% Punjabi_Brahmin + 25% meena @ 1.561
    2 25% karnataka-brahmin + 25% karnataka-brahmin + 25% bhatia + 25% phalura @ 1.600
    3 25% kashmiri-pandit + 25% kashmiri-pandit + 25% kashmiri-pandit + 25% up-kshatriya @ 1.620
    4 25% phalura + 25% phalura + 25% tn-brahmin + 25% iyer-brahmin @ 1.646
    5 25% phalura + 25% phalura + 25% tn-brahmin + 25% tn-brahmin @ 1.667
    6 25% kashmiri-pandit + 25% kashmiri-pandit + 25% Punjabi_Brahmin + 25% gujarati-b @ 1.686
    7 25% phalura + 25% phalura + 25% tn-brahmin + 25% kerala-nair @ 1.698
    8 25% kashmiri-pandit + 25% kashmiri-pandit + 25% kashmiri-pandit + 25% vaish @ 1.737
    9 25% phalura + 25% phalura + 25% tn-brahmin + 25% ap-brahmin @ 1.759
    10 25% kashmiri-pandit + 25% kashmiri-pandit + 25% kashmiri-pandit + 25% Punjabi_No_caste @ 1.784


    EDIT: Does anyone know where they got the "Phalura" samples from to compare? I had a look online and it seems to be a linguistic sub-group of Shina people. I'm interested to know if I can see their full results.

    My brother's results:


    Mixed Mode:
    1 50.39% nuristani + 49.61% bihari @ 1.186
    2 55.86% dameli + 44.14% kurmi @ 1.190
    3 64.45% Kashmiri_Pandit_(Arora+Kashmiri) + 35.55% up-kshatriya @ 1.209
    4 51.95% dameli + 48.05% singapore-indian-b @ 1.242
    5 50.39% bihari + 49.61% nuristani @ 1.252
    6 56.64% rajasthani + 43.36% Chitral_Nuristani @ 1.255
    7 69.92% Kashmiri_Pandit_(Arora+Kashmiri) + 30.08% oriya @ 1.280
    8 51.95% rajasthani + 48.05% dameli @ 1.298
    9 82.42% bhatia + 17.58% pulliyar @ 1.304
    10 61.33% Punjabi_Jatt_Nahal_Rai + 38.67% rajasthani @ 1.319

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 populations approximation
    1 100% Punjabi_Jatt_Balham @ 1.876
    2 100% Jammu_Kashmir_Brahmin @ 2.691
    3 100% punjabi-saini @ 2.792
    4 100% punjabi @ 3.097
    5 100% Bhumihar_Brahmin @ 3.213
    6 100% kashmiri-pandit @ 3.249
    7 100% punjabi-brahmin @ 3.424
    8 100% Punjabi_Jatt_Bhatti @ 3.858
    9 100% Rajput_Minhas @ 4.020
    10 100% singapore-indian-c @ 4.097

    Using 2 populations approximation
    1 50% nuristani + 50% bihari @ 1.211
    2 50% dameli + 50% singapore-indian-b @ 1.391
    3 50% Kashmiri_Pandit_(Arora+Kashmiri) + 50% Eastern_Uttar_Pradesh_Brahmin @ 1.430
    4 50% rajasthani + 50% dameli @ 1.437
    5 50% phalura + 50% brahmin-tamil-nadu @ 1.475
    6 50% Chitral_Nuristani + 50% kurmi @ 1.499
    7 50% Punjabi_Jatt_Balham + 50% Jammu_Kashmir_Brahmin @ 1.503
    8 50% meghawal1 + 50% Chitral_Nuristani @ 1.611
    9 50% lambadi + 50% Chitral_Nuristani @ 1.620
    10 50% Tamil_Brahmin + 50% dameli @ 1.633

    Using 3 populations approximation
    1 33% Jammu_Kashmir_Brahmin + 33% punjabi-saini + 33% Rajput_Minhas @ 1.054
    2 33% Kashmiri_Butt + 33% Punjabi_Brahmin + 33% Pahari_Jatt_Kalyal @ 1.267
    3 33% Kashmiri_Butt + 33% Punjabi_Brahmin + 33% Punjabi_Pahari_Rajput @ 1.267
    4 33% Kashmiri_Butt + 33% Punjabi_Brahmin + 33% gujar-pakistan @ 1.301
    5 33% Kashmiri_Pandit_(Arora+Kashmiri) + 33% Kashmiri_Pandit_(Arora+Kashmiri) + 33% up-kshatriya @ 1.311
    6 33% Punjabi_Jatt_Balham + 33% Jammu_Kashmir_Brahmin + 33% punjabi @ 1.333
    7 33% Punjabi_Ramgarhia + 33% Kashmiri_Butt + 33% Gujjar_No_Caste @ 1.340
    8 33% Pahari_Jatt_Kalyal + 33% kashmiri + 33% Punjabi_No_caste @ 1.365
    9 33% Punjabi_Abbasi + 33% Punjabi_Abbasi + 33% brahmin-uttar-pradesh @ 1.371
    10 33% Kashmiri_Butt + 33% Punjabi_Brahmin + 33% Gujjar_No_Caste @ 1.376

    Using 4 populations approximation
    1 25% Punjabi_Ramgarhia + 25% Punjabi_Ramgarhia + 25% Kashmiri_Butt + 25% Gujjar_No_Caste @ 1.079
    2 25% Chitral_Nuristani + 25% Chitral_Nuristani + 25% sourastrian + 25% ap-reddy @ 1.211
    3 25% Jammu_Kashmir_Brahmin + 25% Jammu_Kashmir_Brahmin + 25% punjabi-saini + 25% Rajput_Minhas @ 1.213
    4 25% Kashmiri_Butt + 25% Kashmiri_Butt + 25% Punjabi_Brahmin + 25% Pahari_Jatt_Kalyal @ 1.213
    5 25% Chitral_Nuristani + 25% Chitral_Nuristani + 25% sourastrian + 25% kurmi @ 1.236
    6 25% Kashmiri_Butt + 25% Kashmiri_Butt + 25% Punjabi_Brahmin + 25% gujar-pakistan @ 1.237
    7 25% Kashmiri_Pandit_(Arora+Kashmiri) + 25% Kashmiri_Pandit_(Arora+Kashmiri) + 25% Punjabi_Jatt_Dhillon + 25% singapore-indian-b @ 1.287
    8 25% Punjabi_Jatt_Balham + 25% Punjabi_Jatt_Balham + 25% Jammu_Kashmir_Brahmin + 25% punjabi @ 1.316
    9 25% nuristani + 25% nuristani + 25% singapore-indian-b + 25% bihari @ 1.323
    10 25% Punjabi_Jatt_Balham + 25% Punjabi_Jatt_Balham + 25% Jammu_Kashmir_Brahmin + 25% punjabi-saini @ 1.333
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