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    Quote Originally Posted by tkofi View Post
    see my profile and posts (Mesa Mani, Laconia paternal line)
    Yup I know about yours.

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    The Peloponnesean averages posted here are very similar to the Tosk ones.
    Last edited by Pleiades; 06-20-2021 at 01:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pleiades View Post
    The Peloponnesean averages posted here are very similar to the Tosk ones.
    Its decisive how the subclades branch and separate from each other. General haplogroup similarity could be misleading, in some cases. Though I think there is a common link since antiquity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverman View Post
    Its decisive how the subclades branch and separate from each other. General haplogroup similarity could be misleading, in some cases. Though I think there is a common link since antiquity.
    I think the J-L283 haplogroup could be a marker of Albanian settlement in Greece, unless it already came here with the Dorians. It's likely that the arvanites brought other haplogroups along with L283 as well.

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    Greetings from a Z2110 with paternal origin from the Messinia region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kostop View Post
    Greetings from a Z2110 with paternal origin from the Messinia region.
    Can you provide some more details on your background?
    "93.8% Greek_Peloponnese (N=27) + 6.2% Yamnaya_RUS_Samara" "0.0196"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcelow View Post
    Can you provide some more details on your background?
    Sure, the paternal side of my family hails from a place called Leontari, in Arcadia. However, according to the stories my father has told me, his paternal ancestors arrived there from another place called Chranoi, at some point c.1800.
    There are two places called Chranoi in the region; one in Arcadia and another one in neighbouring Messinia. Until recently I assumed that the Archadian Chranoi was our place of origin, due to its proximity to Leontari. That changed a few years ago, when a distant relative found me on Gedmatch, and he contacted me mentioning that his paternal ancestors came from the other Chranoi, in Messinia. Still I am not 100% certain about which of the two it is as I have not found written records or anything, but I guess that it is unlikely to be a coincidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kostop View Post
    Sure, the paternal side of my family hails from a place called Leontari, in Arcadia. However, according to the stories my father has told me, his paternal ancestors arrived there from another place called Chranoi, at some point c.1800.
    There are two places called Chranoi in the region; one in Arcadia and another one in neighbouring Messinia. Until recently I assumed that the Archadian Chranoi was our place of origin, due to its proximity to Leontari. That changed a few years ago, when a distant relative found me on Gedmatch, and he contacted me mentioning that his paternal ancestors came from the other Chranoi, in Messinia. Still I am not 100% certain about which of the two it is as I have not found written records or anything, but I guess that it is unlikely to be a coincidence.
    Do you have any y dna matches on FTDNA?
    "93.8% Greek_Peloponnese (N=27) + 6.2% Yamnaya_RUS_Samara" "0.0196"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcelow View Post
    Do you have any y dna matches on FTDNA?
    No, I suppose my DYS393 value of 11 isn’t helping at 12 markers.
    I have found a few 3rd-4th cousins on 23andme, but that’s about it.

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