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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldmountains View Post
    The reference groups are too closely related unlike in the Bronze Age calc, where most of the source groups like Steppe, BMAC, East Asian, ... don't overlap very much in terms of autosomal dna. Late Iron Age Arachosians best represented by modern day South Pashtuns in my opinion were not that different from Pakistan_IA samples just more steppe, more BMAC/Iran_C and less IVC shifted. But on the otherside Proto-Pashtuns would also to some extent overlap with other East Iranic groups further north. So i used ADC 0.25 (similar to penalty on nmonte), which is recommended for calcs with closely related source groups.
    Hm, should I use it when using multiple Steppe populations (like Sintashta, Kangju)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_McNinja View Post
    Hm, should I use it when using multiple Steppe populations (like Sintashta, Kangju)
    Good question. You need to try both and check if the components/admixture results are without ADC 0.25 stable and logical based on what makes sense in the region. But i think because Kangju being more similar to South Asians and especially South Central Asians, it will be extremely favoured when you use penalty/ADC 0.25. So for Pashtuns and Tajiks i would not use it combined with penalty/ADC 0.25. Not sure about South Asians.

    But i personally would also not use Sintashta and Kangju at the same time because Kangju has Sintashta admixture. Sintashta is ancestral to Kangju what can have weird effects if you use both. For Pashtuns we pretty much lack good reference groups from the Iron Age or earlier, which would represent the Pre-Proto-Pashtun Iranic element in the region. Kangju are too late to be ancestral to Pre-Proto-Pashtuns, which arrived probably around 2500-3000 years ago from the north in the Arachosia/Suleiman mountain region in my opinion
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