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Thread: Spaniard with r1a (Morley and Cladefinder )

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmandoR1b View Post
    Is that supposed to be a statement against my post? My analysis is solid and he would not be able to contradict what I reported.
    I already saw your initial post in this thread so I decided that there was no reason to do so myself.

    On another note, how did you manage to interpret what Kulin said as a "statement" against your post? What reason would a moderator of all people have to do this?
    Last edited by aaronbee2010; 05-24-2020 at 02:58 AM.
    YFull: YF72440 (FTDNA - IN41220)

    Ancestral Haplos (Punjabi Jatt):
    * Father: R2-SK2142 > A26339 - M5a1a
    * Maternal Uncle: R1b-Z2109 > Y84821 - U7a3a
    * MGMs F (?): L-M22 > M357 - ?
    * PGMs F (?): Q-F1096 > F4747 - ?
    * MGMs MGF (?): R1a-Z93 > Y7 - ?

    Friends Haplos:
    * North Moroccan Berber: E-M35 > M81 - R0
    * Han Chinese: O-M117 > F1531 - M7e
    * Gujarati Lohana (?): T-Y11151 > Y13290 - R30b1

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronbee2010 View Post
    I already saw your initial post in this thread so I decided that there was no reason to do so myself.

    On another note, how did you manage to interpret what Kulin said as a "statement" against your post? What reason would a moderator of all people have to do this?
    It's cool lol. No offence taken. I can see how my statement could seem misleading.
    Last edited by Kulin; 05-24-2020 at 03:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmandoR1b View Post
    I just looked at the MyHeritage files of two different people that are positive for R1b subclades and they both show derived for Z2125 and for SRY10831.2/Page65/PF6234/SRY1532. So those are false positives for most people tested by MyHeritage.

    You are definitely positive for M417 and Z651/F3044/V4100 so it is just Z2125 that is questionable for you. You should get the R1a Superclade Panel at https://www.yseq.net/product_info.ph...ducts_id=56701 to find your subclade.
    Thanks for the info. I already wondered why ever Asian R1a result of Afghans and Iranians i have seem was Z2125+ when the myheritage file was used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmandoR1b View Post
    The odds are that you are positive for a subclade of Z93. Do a search of ESP at https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z93/ to see the samples with a direct paternal ancestor from Spain.

    FTDNA has a few more Z93 samples with ancestry from Spain at https://www.familytreedna.com/public...e/R;name=R-Z93 but to find the country report for each subclade you have to keep clicking on subclades, which is a pain in the ass, or left click on the three dot menu button on the right and select country report for a country total for all subclades downstream from that point.

    There is no way for me to make a logical guess as to which subclade of Z93 you belong to.
    There is a decent bunch of R1a-Z93 in Latin America, so it would not be strange that haplogroup and clade. Yseq prediction tells him that the next prediction would be R-Z93, so for sure he is positive for the SNP of that respective clade.

    Best regards, Armando.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldmountains View Post
    Thanks for the info. I already wondered why ever Asian R1a result of Afghans and Iranians i have seem was Z2125+ when the myheritage file was used.
    What i would like to know is if every L21 in MyHeritage, is also positive for PF6093, that would be great, because is my case.

    L21 > DF13 > DF41 > PF6093

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    Did you check FTDNA projects? If you find someone with your clade and surname you can just order a test for that particular SNP from Yseq for 18EUR.

    Check Iberia and Spain projects. This is Iberia:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibericus View Post
    Did you check FTDNA projects? If you find someone with your clade and surname you can just order a test for that particular SNP from Yseq for 18EUR.

    Check Iberia and Spain projects. This is Iberia:
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    Link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJJ View Post
    Link?
    Just google FTDNA Spain project and FTDNA Iberia project. For the Spanish project you have to register and join to see the results, but you don't have to order any test to register.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibericus View Post
    Just google FTDNA Spain project and FTDNA Iberia project. For the Spanish project you have to register and join to see the results, but you don't have to order any test to register.
    I wish I could join that project but I cannot upload my data from another company (I did it but only autosomal is possible), this is the bad thing about having several companies and not being centralized the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJJ View Post
    I wish I could join that project but I cannot upload my data from another company (I did it but only autosomal is possible), this is the bad thing about having several companies and not being centralized the results.
    I uploaded only my autosomal data from Myheritage and I was able to join the project.

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