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    Solo como pequeño experimento, otra forma de buscar clusters es haciendo los K-clusters de G25 con las muestras ibéricas, centro-sur franceses y del norte de Italia (los pueblos que solapan con nosotros) y escogiendo, por ejemplo, 10 Clusters, se obtiene:

    Cluster 1 (Catalán-Balear-Occitano):

     
    Spanish_Barcelones:COD147 1
    Spanish_Barcelones:SER015 1
    Spanish_Barcelones:VID014 1
    Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:VID048 1
    Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG01746 1
    Spanish_Catalunya_Central:COD068 1
    Spanish_Catalunya_Central:SOL083 1
    Spanish_Eivissa:EIV001_2 1
    Spanish_Eivissa:EIV009_2 1
    Spanish_Eivissa:EIV013_2 1
    Spanish_Girona:MOR061 1
    Spanish_Girona:ROI027 1
    Spanish_Girona:VID016 1
    Spanish_Lleida:GUS014 1
    Spanish_Lleida:GUS036 1
    Spanish_Mallorca:CAL026 1
    Spanish_Mallorca:MST073 1
    Spanish_Mallorca:SLM078 1
    Spanish_Penedes:FER023 1
    Spanish_Penedes:ROB016 1
    Spanish_Penedes:SER022 1
    Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:CAL053 1
    Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:MAS016 1
    Spanish_Pirineu:GRA029 1
    Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:GRA020 1
    Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:GUS008 1
    Spanish_Valencia:HG01605 1
    Spanish_Valencia:HG01606 1
    Spanish_Valencia:SOL084 1
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta15 1
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta16 1
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta18 1
    Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP070 1
    Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP420 1
    French_Auvergne:C_29 1
    French_Auvergne:C_31 1
    French_Auvergne:C_35 1
    French_Occitanie:T_121_2 1
    French_Occitanie:T_24 1
    French_Occitanie:T_4 1
    French_Occitanie:T_51 1
    French_Occitanie:T_72 1
    French_Occitanie:T_90 1
    French_Provence:S_20 1
    French_Provence:S_32_R 1
    Swiss_French:Swiss_French3 1




    Cluster 2: un poco de todo, pero mayoria Portuguesa:
     

    Spanish_Andalucia:AND14 2
    Spanish_Andalucia:AND7 2
    Spanish_Andalucia:AND75 2
    Spanish_Andalucia:HG01623 2
    Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FOR094 2
    Spanish_Canarias:CAN884 2
    Spanish_Eivissa:CAR256 2
    Spanish_Eivissa:EIV004_2 2
    Spanish_Eivissa:GUS203 2
    Spanish_Extremadura:HG01509 2
    Spanish_Extremadura:HG01527 2
    Spanish_Galicia:GAL26 2
    Spanish_Galicia:GAL71 2
    Spanish_Galicia:HG01685 2
    Spanish_Galicia:HG01704 2
    Spanish_Murcia:HG01618 2
    Spanish_Valencia:ALB389 2
    Portuguese:EBC_Portugal1 2
    Portuguese:EBC_Portugal11 2
    Portuguese:EBC_Portugal13 2
    Portuguese:EBC_Portugal2 2
    Portuguese:EBC_Portugal3 2
    Portuguese:EBC_Portugal7 2
    Portuguese:Portugal1 2
    Portuguese:Portugal10 2
    Portuguese:Portugal11 2
    Portuguese:Portugal12 2
    Portuguese:Portugal13 2
    Portuguese:Portugal14 2
    Portuguese:Portugal2 2
    Portuguese:Portugal3 2
    Portuguese:Portugal4 2



    Cluster 3: Norte de Italia
     

    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta20 3
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta21 3
    Italian_Molise:PG26 3
    Italian_Molise:PG27 3
    Italian_Northeast:ALP081 3
    Italian_Northeast:ALP093 3
    Italian_Northeast:ALP233 3
    Italian_Northeast:ALP235 3
    Italian_Northeast:ALP280 3
    Italian_Northeast:ALP346 3
    Italian_Northeast:ALP354 3
    Italian_Northeast:ALP506 3
    Italian_Northeast:KF1800761 3
    Italian_Northeast:KF1803129 3
    Italian_Northeast:KF2700922 3
    Italian_Northeast:KF2700960 3
    Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont119 3
    Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont127 3
    Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont136 3
    Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont145 3
    Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont149 3
    Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont43 3
    Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont63 3
    Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont98 3
    Italian_Piedmont:Piedmont154 3
    Italian_Piedmont:Piedmont61 3
    Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP114 3
    Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP200 3
    Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP259 3
    Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP395 3
    Italian_Veneto:ALP022 3
    Italian_Veneto:ALP040 3
    Italian_Veneto:Alp100 3
    Italian_Veneto:ALP116 3
    Italian_Veneto:ALP209 3
    Italian_Veneto:ALP249 3
    Italian_Veneto:ALP250 3
    Italian_Veneto:ALP273 3
    Italian_Veneto:ALP322 3
    Italian_Veneto:ALP378 3
    Italian_Veneto:Alp401 3
    Italian_Veneto:KF1800751 3
    Italian_Veneto:KF1800772 3
    Italian_Veneto:KF1803105 3
    Italian_Veneto:KF1803109 3
    French_Auvergne:C_9_2 3
    French_Provence:provance2708 3
    French_Provence:S_33 3
    French_Provence:S_34 3
    French_Provence:S_5 3



    Cluster 4: claramente Vasco:
     

    Spanish_Castello:FER033 4
    Spanish_Navarra:Navarra3 4
    Spanish_Pais_Vasco:HG01515 4
    Spanish_Pais_Vasco:HG01516 4
    Spanish_Pais_Vasco:HG01518 4
    Spanish_Pirineu:CAR016 4
    Basque_French:HGDP01357 4
    Basque_French:HGDP01358 4
    Basque_French:HGDP01359 4
    Basque_French:HGDP01360 4
    Basque_French:HGDP01362 4
    Basque_French:HGDP01363 4
    Basque_French:HGDP01364 4
    Basque_French:HGDP01365 4
    Basque_French:HGDP01366 4
    Basque_French:HGDP01367 4
    Basque_Spanish:BAS22 4
    Basque_Spanish:BAS25 4
    Basque_Spanish:BAS27 4
    Basque_Spanish:BAS28 4
    Basque_Spanish:BAS30 4
    Basque_Spanish:BAS31 4
    Basque_Spanish:BAS32 4
    Basque_Spanish:BAS33 4
    Basque_Spanish:BAS35 4
    French_Occitanie:T_18 4
    French_Occitanie:T_39 4
    French_Occitanie:T_57 4
    French_Occitanie:T_84 4
    French_South:SouthFrench1112 4
    French_South:SouthFrench1323 4
    French_South:SouthFrench3068 4
    French_South:SouthFrench3326 4
    French_South:SouthFrench3951 4
    French_South:SouthFrench4018 4



    Cluster 5: Andaluz-Gallego-Portugues:
     

    Spanish_Alacant:CAR257 5
    Spanish_Alacant:MAS064 5
    Spanish_Alacant:NAC135 5
    Spanish_Andalucia:AND10 5
    Spanish_Andalucia:AND2 5
    Spanish_Andalucia:AND36 5
    Spanish_Andalucia:AND4 5
    Spanish_Andalucia:AND46 5
    Spanish_Andalucia:AND77 5
    Spanish_Andalucia:AND80 5
    Spanish_Andalucia:AND84 5
    Spanish_Andalucia:AND86 5
    Spanish_Andalucia:HG01620 5
    Spanish_Aragon:HG01678 5
    Spanish_Asturias:Asturias1 5
    Spanish_Canarias:CAN9 5
    Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG02238 5
    Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01500 5
    Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01501 5
    Spanish_Cataluna:HG01761 5
    Spanish_Eivissa:EIV010_2 5
    Spanish_Eivissa:EIV011_2 5
    Spanish_Eivissa:SER064 5
    Spanish_Galicia:GAL16 5
    Spanish_Galicia:GAL20 5
    Spanish_Galicia:GAL21 5
    Spanish_Galicia:GAL24 5
    Spanish_Galicia:GAL3 5
    Spanish_Galicia:GAL35 5
    Spanish_Galicia:GAL44 5
    Spanish_Galicia:GAL48 5
    Spanish_Galicia:GAL74 5
    Spanish_Galicia:GAL8 5
    Spanish_Mallorca:ALE339 5
    Spanish_Menorca:FER054 5
    Spanish_Murcia:HG01697 5
    Spanish_Murcia:HG01699 5
    Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:COM032 5
    Spanish_Pirineu:CAR212 5
    Spanish_Valencia:HG01607 5
    Portuguese:EBC_Portugal10 5
    Portuguese:EBC_Portugal12 5
    Portuguese:EBC_Portugal6 5
    Portuguese:EBC_Portugal9 5
    Portuguese:Portugal15 5
    Portuguese:Portugal6 5
    Portuguese:Portugal8 5
    Portuguese:Portugal9 5


    Cluster 6: "Corona de Aragón":
     

    Spanish_Alacant:SLA017 6
    Spanish_Andalucia:AND18 6
    Spanish_Andalucia:AND33 6
    Spanish_Andalucia:AND43 6
    Spanish_Andalucia:HG01619 6
    Spanish_Aragon:HG01673 6
    Spanish_Aragon:HG01675 6
    Spanish_Aragon:HG01676 6
    Spanish_Baleares:HG01615 6
    Spanish_Baleares:HG01625 6
    Spanish_Barcelones:GUS040 6
    Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FER039 6
    Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GRA011 6
    Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GUL190 6
    Spanish_Cantabria:HG01512 6
    Spanish_Cantabria:HG01513 6
    Spanish_Cantabria:HG01679 6
    Spanish_Castello:ALB231 6
    Spanish_Castello:BOS027 6
    Spanish_Castello:CAR200 6
    Spanish_Castello:PIT001 6
    Spanish_Castello:SAB019 6
    Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG01503 6
    Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG01504 6
    Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01506 6
    Spanish_Cataluna:HG01537 6
    Spanish_Catalunya_Central:MAS003 6
    Spanish_Catalunya_Central:SOL051 6
    Spanish_Catalunya_Central:VID044 6
    Spanish_Catalunya_Central:VID057 6
    Spanish_Eivissa:EIV012_2 6
    Spanish_Eivissa:EIV014_2 6
    Spanish_Eivissa:EIV015_2 6
    Spanish_Eivissa:GUS199 6
    Spanish_Extremadura:HG01510 6
    Spanish_Galicia:GAL11 6
    Spanish_Galicia:GAL25 6
    Spanish_Girona:DAN072 6
    Spanish_Girona:REI087 6
    Spanish_Girona:ROB116 6
    Spanish_La_Rioja:La_Rioja1 6
    Spanish_Lleida:FER007 6
    Spanish_Lleida:FER015 6
    Spanish_Lleida:FOR066 6
    Spanish_Lleida:RIC076 6
    Spanish_Lleida:ROS005 6
    Spanish_Mallorca:ROI096 6
    Spanish_Mallorca:SOL053 6
    Spanish_Menorca:GUS007 6
    Spanish_Menorca:PON058 6
    Spanish_Navarra:Navarra1 6
    Spanish_Navarra:Navarra2 6
    Spanish_Penedes:GUS029 6
    Spanish_Penedes:SAB014 6
    Spanish_Penedes:STC091 6
    Spanish_Penedes:VID037 6
    Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ARM005 6
    Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:BOS029 6
    Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROI042 6
    Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROS008 6
    Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:SER027 6
    Spanish_Pirineu:FER101 6
    Spanish_Pirineu:SAB137 6
    Spanish_Pirineu:SER011 6
    Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:RAG111 6
    Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:SAB009 6
    Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:SAB131 6
    Spanish_Valencia:ALB126 6
    Spanish_Valencia:BON076 6
    Spanish_Valencia:EST038 6
    Spanish_Valencia:EST093 6
    Spanish_Valencia:FER097 6
    Spanish_Valencia:GRA016 6
    Portuguese:Portugal7 6
    French_South:SouthFrench3947 6



    Cluster 7: claramente Francés, con algunos catalanes:
     

    Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GUS202 7
    Spanish_Lleida:MIQ133 7
    Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:MOR068 7
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta1 7
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta10 7
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta12 7
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta2 7
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta6 7
    Italian_Northeast:ALP220 7
    Italian_Northeast:ALP435 7
    Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP071 7
    French_Auvergne:C_13 7
    French_Auvergne:C_16 7
    French_Auvergne:C_18 7
    French_Auvergne:C_19 7
    French_Auvergne:C_21 7
    French_Auvergne:C_23 7
    French_Auvergne:C_26 7
    French_Auvergne:C_3 7
    French_Auvergne:C_30 7
    French_Auvergne:C_34 7
    French_Auvergne:C_37 7
    French_Auvergne:C_40 7
    French_Auvergne:C_44 7
    French_Auvergne:C_51 7
    French_Auvergne:C_5_2 7
    French_Auvergne:C_7 7
    French_Auvergne:C_70 7
    French_Auvergne:C_82 7
    French_Auvergne:C_97 7
    French_Occitanie:T_10 7
    French_Occitanie:T_106 7
    French_Occitanie:T_11 7
    French_Occitanie:T_110 7
    French_Occitanie:T_111 7
    French_Occitanie:T_112 7
    French_Occitanie:T_119 7
    French_Occitanie:T_124 7
    French_Occitanie:T_127 7
    French_Occitanie:T_33 7
    French_Occitanie:T_36 7
    French_Occitanie:T_46 7
    French_Occitanie:T_53 7
    French_Occitanie:T_64 7
    French_Occitanie:T_65 7
    French_Occitanie:T_67 7
    French_Occitanie:T_7 7
    French_Occitanie:T_70 7
    French_Occitanie:T_80 7
    French_Occitanie:T_87 7
    French_Occitanie:T_96 7
    French_Occitanie:T_97 7
    French_Provence:provance2508 7
    French_Provence:provance4409 7
    French_Provence:provance4509 7
    French_Provence:S_22 7
    French_Provence:S_29_2 7
    French_Provence:S_4 7
    French_Provence:S_6 7
    Swiss_French:Swiss_French2 7
    Swiss_French:Swiss_French4 7
    Swiss_French:Swiss_French6 7
    Swiss_French:Swiss_French8 7


    Cluster 8 : mayoria francesa y algunos españoles en su mayoría catalanes:
     

    Spanish_Alacant:ALE009 8
    Spanish_Andalucia:AND39 8
    Spanish_Baleares:HG01613 8
    Spanish_Barcelones:GUS119 8
    Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FOR067 8
    Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GRA035 8
    Spanish_Castello:CAR023 8
    Spanish_Cataluna:HG01536 8
    Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAL107 8
    Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAR007 8
    Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAR048 8
    Spanish_Galicia:GAL15 8
    Spanish_Galicia:HG01686 8
    Spanish_Girona:BOS011 8
    Spanish_Girona:FER052 8
    Spanish_Girona:ROB127 8
    Spanish_Girona:SER018 8
    Spanish_Lleida:MST075 8
    Spanish_Mallorca:GRA135 8
    Spanish_Mallorca:MAY035 8
    Spanish_Mallorca:MEL022 8
    Spanish_Murcia:HG01617 8
    Spanish_Penedes:ALE088 8
    Spanish_Penedes:BOS015 8
    Spanish_Penedes:ROS025 8
    Spanish_Penedes:VID003 8
    Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:RIC106 8
    Spanish_Soria:Soria1 8
    Spanish_Soria:Soria2 8
    Spanish_Valencia:BOS010 8
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta11 8
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta14 8
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta17 8
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta19 8
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta22 8
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta3 8
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta4 8
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta7 8
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta8 8
    Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta9 8
    Italian_Veneto:KF1803151 8
    French_Auvergne:C_24 8
    French_Auvergne:C_32 8
    French_Auvergne:C_68 8
    French_Auvergne:C_80 8
    French_Occitanie:T_123 8
    French_Occitanie:T_22 8
    French_Occitanie:T_29 8
    French_Occitanie:T_9 8
    French_Provence:provance4109 8
    French_Provence:S_17 8
    French_Provence:S_23_2 8
    French_Provence:S_44 8
    Swiss_French:Swiss_French1 8
    Swiss_French:Swiss_French5 8
    Swiss_French:Swiss_French7 8


    Cluster 9 "Canarios":
     

    Spanish_Canarias:CAN1 9
    Spanish_Canarias:CAN10 9
    Spanish_Canarias:CAN11 9
    Spanish_Canarias:CAN12 9
    Spanish_Canarias:CAN1220 9
    Spanish_Canarias:CAN13 9
    Spanish_Canarias:CAN17 9
    Spanish_Canarias:CAN18 9
    Spanish_Canarias:CAN19 9
    Spanish_Canarias:CAN1920 9
    Spanish_Canarias:CAN2 9
    Spanish_Canarias:CAN3 9
    Spanish_Canarias:CAN4 9
    Spanish_Canarias:CAN924 9
    Spanish_Canarias:CAN956 9
    Spanish_Canarias:HG01694 9
    Spanish_Canarias:HG01695 9

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweuro View Post
    Solo como pequeño experimento, otra forma de buscar clusters es haciendo los K-clusters de G25 con las muestras ibéricas, centro-sur franceses y del norte de Italia (los pueblos que solapan con nosotros) y escogiendo, por ejemplo, 10 Clusters, se obtiene:

    er]
    Tenemos montones de formas diferentes de hacer grupos, todos son válidos con la debida etiqueta que explique algo lo que representan.

    Pero el camino que estaba siguiendo yo con los anteriores es precisamente evitar el solapamiento, eligiendo individuos que no ploteen dentro de otros paises, como empecé con el supuesto "cluster único/típico francés" que parecía más sencillo que encontrar el "componente representativo húngaro"...

    El caso es que como era de esperar, sigue habiendo solapamiento aunque las referencias ploteen fuera de otros grupos, pero ya puestos para ser justos, tenía que enfrentar esas referencias con referencias de países vecinos que en teoría, no solapen con otros vecinos.

    Las referencias con miembros del foro, es simplemente porque ya que me había puesto, las hacía, no tiene nada que ver con lo otro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokordo View Post
    Yo he hecho PCA de todos...los que tengo.
    Los PCA son demasiado importantes la verdad, cada vez que tengas uno hecho subelo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alejandromb92 View Post
    Los PCA son demasiado importantes la verdad, cada vez que tengas uno hecho subelo.
    ¿Qué referencias podría usar para cada uno de los componentes del K13? Puede haber varias referencias por componente.

    North_Atlantic,=está claro.
    Baltic,=Estonia+lituania
    West_Med,=Cerdeña?
    East_Med,=Levantinos?
    Red_Sea,=está claro
    South_Asian,=está claro
    East_Asian,=Corea+Japón? medias de referencias chinas?
    Siberian,=hay montones de etnias minoritarias rarunas, no sé cuales usar exactamente
    Amerindian,=está claro
    Oceanian,=está claro
    Northeast_African,=cuales?
    Sub-Saharan,=está claro

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokordo View Post
    ¿Qué referencias podría usar para cada uno de los componentes del K13? Puede haber varias referencias por componente.

    North_Atlantic,=está claro.
    Baltic,=Estonia+lituania
    West_Med,=Cerdeña?
    East_Med,=Levantinos?
    Red_Sea,=está claro
    South_Asian,=está claro
    East_Asian,=Corea+Japón? medias de referencias chinas?
    Siberian,=hay montones de etnias minoritarias rarunas, no sé cuales usar exactamente
    Amerindian,=está claro
    Oceanian,=está claro
    Northeast_African,=cuales?
    Sub-Saharan,=está claro
    West med: Cerdeña.
    East med: Arabia Saudí + Levante.
    Siberian: cualquiera de Siberia, solo se me ocurre Nenets por el nombre tan cursi.
    N. African: Bantúes.

    [1] "distance%=1.9178"

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJJ View Post
    West med: Cerdeña.
    East med: Arabia Saudí + Levante.
    Siberian: cualquiera de Siberia, solo se me ocurre Nenets por el nombre tan cursi.
    N. African: Bantúes.
    North Atlantic escandinavos y la media entre islandeses, islas Orcadas y Shetlands?

    East Asian esas dos referencias estarían bien, o solo coreanos y japoneses?

    Red Sea miré y parecen ser los del cuerno de África, así que usaría la referencia Eritrea+Somalia, pero si NorthEast Africa son Bantúes, no son un poco redundantes?

    Nosotros no tendremos ninguna referencia demasiado cercana, así que nos modelará como Sardos+NorthAtlantics principalmente más cosillas sueltas, a cada uno lo que le suela salir de fuera de Europa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokordo View Post
    North Atlantic escandinavos y la media entre islandeses, islas Orcadas y Shetlands?

    East Asian esas dos referencias estarían bien, o solo coreanos y japoneses?

    Red Sea miré y parecen ser los del cuerno de África, así que usaría la referencia Eritrea+Somalia, pero si NorthEast Africa son Bantúes, no son un poco redundantes?

    Nosotros no tendremos ninguna referencia demasiado cercana, así que nos modelará como Sardos+NorthAtlantics principalmente más cosillas sueltas, a cada uno lo que le suela salir de fuera de Europa.
    Por el momento está bien como dices, son redundantes los componentes en el K13.

    [1] "distance%=1.9178"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokordo View Post
    ¿Qué referencias podría usar para cada uno de los componentes del K13? Puede haber varias referencias por componente.

    North_Atlantic,=está claro.
    Baltic,=Estonia+lituania
    West_Med,=Cerdeña?
    East_Med,=Levantinos?
    Red_Sea,=está claro
    South_Asian,=está claro
    East_Asian,=Corea+Japón? medias de referencias chinas?
    Siberian,=hay montones de etnias minoritarias rarunas, no sé cuales usar exactamente
    Amerindian,=está claro
    Oceanian,=está claro
    Northeast_African,=cuales?
    Sub-Saharan,=está claro
    Yo no soy muy fan de estas calculadoras viejas de Eurogenes, pero aqui voy:

    North_Atlantic = Cualquier referencia britanica que no sea Inglaterra, Cornuales o Gales. Islandia sirve tambien.
    Baltic = Finlandia o Estonia.
    West_Med = Clarisimo, Cerdeña.
    East_Med = Este es el componente mas curioso de todos. Honestamente, yo te diria que alguna parte del Egeo, podria ser alguna referencia de islas griegas o Noroeste de Turquia.
    Red_Sea = Pues fijate que no se si Arabia Saudi seria la mas adecuada.
    South_Asian = Sur de la India.
    East_Asian = Corea.
    Siberian = Mongolia, sin complicaciones.
    Amerindian = No falta hace opinar.
    Oceanian = Kiwi.
    Northeast_African = Cuerno de Africa es la clave.
    Sub-Saharan = Occidente Africano.
    Last edited by alejandromb92; 01-13-2021 at 09:28 PM.

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    Creo que ha quedado bastante bien, a ver qué os parece.No esperéis un resultado similar al K13, por supuesto.

    El Amerindian y el Siberian están muy cerca, era de esperar. El Siberian es la única referencia nueva, la hice basándome en lo que comentó JJJ, Nenets+Selkup.

    PCA, solo añadí algunos grupos para tener una referencia.

     


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    Baltic,0.13419740,0.11830925,0.08826510,0.08638635,0.04299255,0.03189105,0.01198555,0.01426095,-0.00087945,-0.03266560,-0.00175390,-0.01308335,0.02134025,0.02636855,-0.00861145,0.00288380,0.00146670,-0.00143170,0.00147695,0.00325795,-0.00070510,-0.00379000,0.00666760,-0.00428965,0.00284405
    West_Med,0.12236,0.1655315,0.02357,-0.056525,0.0569335,-0.021614,-0.00705,0.0015,0.0396775,0.0750815,0.000325,0.0173845,-0.0271305,-0.0114225,-0.0152685,-0.007425,0.0057365,0.0005065,0.004274,-0.0128185,0.004492,0.000309,-0.011462,-0.022473,0.0011975
    West_Asian,0.0992254,0.0786815,-0.0200851,-0.0319207,-0.0200989,-0.0106798,0.0050411,-0.0002120,-0.0184973,-0.0010534,-0.0007855,0.0013163,-0.0028215,0.0017155,-0.0041298,0.0000325,0.0029920,0.0011112,0.0018688,-0.0017495,-0.0029590,-0.0000647,-0.0019151,-0.0004425,-0.0000719
    East_Med,0.1070315,0.145769,-0.0193374,-0.0508842,0.0045435,-0.0168057,0.0030456,-0.0030695,-0.0026649,0.0147648,0.0034242,0.0017514,-0.0031743,0.0016794,-0.0119076,-0.0016904,0.0041787,0.0029881,0.0048445,-0.0047811,-0.0043396,-0.000064,0.0005811,0.000451,-0.0025359
    Red_Sea,0.05059585,0.13995270,-0.06513990,-0.11723870,-0.00940130,-0.04997380,-0.01229238,-0.00808298,0.05608075,-0.00410653,0.01556333,-0.03192903,0.06243548,0.00350273,0.00455410,0.02525745,-0.02140830,0.00386218,0.00015448,0.02687405,0.01263658,0.01614353,-0.00905183,0.00697205,-0.00832413
    South_Asian,0.05425723,-0.05224190,-0.14531813,0.10516810,-0.07525927,0.06000990,0.00056697,0.01146813,0.02995450,0.01783713,-0.00570163,-0.00016823,-0.00002613,0.00110113,0.00060693,-0.00117137,-0.00384817,0.00066970,0.00074737,-0.00379923,0.00015303,-0.00049060,0.00129760,0.00150510,-0.00206300
    East_Asian,0.0228405,-0.4500658,0.0157636,-0.0616123,0.0377711,0.0104956,0.0045003,0.0019692,-0.0076252,0.0085103,-0.0743117,-0.0082078,0.0109439,-0.0060876,-0.0097832,-0.0035115,0.0007954,0.0028991,0.0005762,-0.0085022,0.0219716,-0.0104919,0.006302,0.0019561,-0.029686
    Siberian,0.0712675,-0.2597152,0.1261352,0.0402054,-0.1091472,-0.0458827,0.0155505,0.0241736,0.0097942,-0.0172851,0.0686172,0.000534,0.0108821,-0.0619809,-0.021884,-0.0120657,-0.0036925,0.0054333,0.0105948,-0.0042966,0.0016598,0.0204784,0.0340828,-0.0074158,-0.0040206
    Amerindian,0.05465673,-0.2968151,0.11224557,0.09128287,-0.10310783,-0.0167784,-0.27070987,-0.3246743,-0.01115723,-0.0149555,-0.0040257,-0.0041421,0.00129253,0.01872977,-0.007696,0.00187773,0.00527263,0.00001203,0.00108467,-0.0005658,-0.00267273,0.0057964,0.0001209,-0.00068733,-0.0007424
    Oceanian,0.0022763,-0.1754325,-0.112099,0.1330765,0.1144828,-0.1776533,-0.0024088,0.0028268,-0.0122203,-0.006424,0.001624,0.002398,-0.0010038,-0.0051265,0.0064468,0.002519,0.0019558,0.004244,0.0008798,0.0010943,0.005459,-0.0030295,-0.0037283,-0.0006323,-0.0135318
    Northeast_African,-0.250373,0.1007068,-0.0300189,-0.079065,0.0019646,-0.0374457,-0.0179234,0.0029613,0.1084522,-0.0707259,-0.0053939,-0.0087547,0.0125445,-0.0000987,0.0233123,-0.0116503,0.0111479,-0.0010306,0.0088868,-0.0006275,0.0026914,0.0061827,-0.0023541,-0.0008012,-0.0029717
    Sub-Saharan,-0.6311039,0.0635571,0.0226765,0.0174989,-0.0013447,0.0135755,-0.0428161,0.0470894,-0.0499677,0.0339022,0.0064409,-0.0003355,0.0232072,0.0021097,0.0123351,-0.00956,0.0069119,0.0018716,0.0060435,-0.0032616,0.0009721,0.0017993,-0.0012416,-0.0003636,-0.0006763

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    Quote Originally Posted by alejandromb92 View Post
    Yo no soy muy fan de estas calculadoras viejas de Eurogenes, pero aqui voy:

    North_Atlantic = Cualquier referencia britanica que no sea Inglaterra, Cornuales o Gales. Islandia sirve tambien.
    Baltic = Finlandia o Estonia.
    West_Med = Clarisimo, Cerdeña.
    East_Med = Este es el componente mas curioso de todos. Honestamente, yo te diria que alguna parte del Egeo, podria ser alguna referencia de islas griegas o Noroeste de Turquia.
    Red_Sea = Pues fijate que no se si Arabia Saudi seria la mas adecuada.
    South_Asian = Sur de la India.
    East_Asian = Corea.
    Siberian = Mongolia, sin complicaciones.
    Amerindian = No falta hace opinar.
    Oceanian = Kiwi.
    Northeast_African = Cuerno de Africa es la clave.
    Sub-Saharan = Occidente Africano.
    Negro-meds.

    [1] "distance%=1.9178"

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