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    Quote Originally Posted by mokordo View Post
    ¿Qué tal te va todo fuera del mundo internetero? No hace falta que des detalles, ¿Va bien, mal o regular?
    Entre regular y bien, nada mal. El frio esta jodido, ha sido un Octubre y un Noviembre mas frio de lo normal, pero bueno, se puede vivir con ello. Y tu que tal todo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alejandromb92 View Post
    Entre regular y bien, nada mal. El frio esta jodido, ha sido un Octubre y un Noviembre mas frio de lo normal, pero bueno, se puede vivir con ello. Y tu que tal todo?
    Digamos que en lo profesional muy bien, y en lo personal y familiar mejorable.

    Empiezo a pensar que voy al revés del mundo, cuando peor va todo a mí me va bien.

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    He estado mirando cositas sobre el Ydna que creo que tengo ahora mismo:

    Autosomally, this sample looks very Germanic. As for its Y-DNA haplogroup (R1a-Z280), we don't know whether it was any of the two common Balto-Slavic subclades (CTS1211 or Z92) or rather one of the three relatively rare Central-Western European subclades (S24902, YP5000 or YP6213). So far, CTS1211 was found in Bronze Age Lithuania, while S24902 was found in Bronze Age Poland (Kuyavia). I suspect some rare/extinct subclades of CTS1211 will be found east of the Vistula river.
    Como debería escribirlo? solamente R-YP5000, o mejor R1a-Z282>Z91(Z280)>YP5000, no conozco la convención sobre como escribir esto...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokordo View Post
    He estado mirando cositas sobre el Ydna que creo que tengo ahora mismo:



    Como debería escribirlo? solamente R-YP5000, o mejor R1a-Z282>Z91(Z280)>YP5000, no conozco la convención sobre como escribir esto...
    R1a-YP5000 o R-YP5000, cualquiera de las 2 nomenclaturas esta bien. Clado desconocido para mi, solo hay un aleman en YFull con tu clado, lo que seria algo con mucho sentido. Que cool la verdad, haplogrupos interesantes entre nosotros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alejandromb92 View Post
    R1a-YP5000 o R-YP5000, cualquiera de las 2 nomenclaturas esta bien. Clado desconocido para mi, solo hay un aleman en YFull con tu clado, lo que seria algo con mucho sentido. Que cool la verdad, haplogrupos interesantes entre nosotros.
    Pero me refería versión corta( R-YP5000), o larga (R1a-Z282>Z91(Z280)>YP5000), supongo que el Z280 ahora ya no se usa y debería poner Z91 directamente en la versión larga (R1a-Z282>Z91>YP5000)

    Con suerte igual aún van un pasito más allá, todavía no han parado de mirar SNPs.

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    Siento curiosidad por mis haplogrupos, pero no tanto como para hacer un full genome de esos, si tuviera un J1 quizás sí me motivaría para ahondar más; eso sí, me haré un Y seq en un futuro.

    Al hilo de esto anterior y como estabais hablando del Full Genome, a nivel autosómico, a priori no me da la sensación que necesite ahondar más allá a este nivel, ya que con lo que tengo (23andMe y My Heritage) me basta y me sobra para lo que me interesa, que es la genealogía genética y genealogía tradicional.
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    He hecho una calculadora con muestras de la Edad del Hierro principalmente, y otras menos de la Edad del Bronce, he intentado eliminar los valores atípicos. Sobre las muestras levantinas, según nuestros compis judíos de este foro, el proxy Levant_Meggido_IA parece el mejor promedio para representar a los judíos/hebreos según las crónicas históricas, investigaciones y excavaciones arqueológicas. He metido como referencia norteafricana MAR_Taforalt. Sentíos libres para sustituirla por el promedio guanche si os modela mejor, en mi caso lo hace mejor ésta.

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    Iberia_East_IA,0.1244941,0.1489018,0.0564739,0.0021802,0.0598572,-0.0031725,-0.0036426,0.0044711,0.0299882,0.0468802,-0.0047092,0.0111088,-0.0233585,-0.0145191,0.0078549,0.0056351,0.0067799,0.0016153,0.0038024,-0.0010318,0.0055682,-9.26e-05,-0.007364,-0.0123961,-0.001122648
    Iberia_Northeast_BA,0.1263438,0.1502982,0.0608579,0.0031896,0.066897,-0.0059264,-0.0008225,-0.0004904,0.038834,0.055058,-0.0028212,0.0090484,-0.025644,-0.0184072,0.0007975,0.0107232,0.0113922,0.0003484,0.0009271,0.0039394,0.0108089,0.0023186,-0.0131569,-0.0163879,0.0003441
    Iberia_Southeast_BA,0.1269128,0.1571532,0.055625,-0.0073482,0.0667815,-0.006763,-0.0067562,0.0053652,0.048063,0.0672453,-0.0018675,0.0116522,-0.0258298,-0.0177187,0.005225,0.0056685,0.0052478,-0.0016785,0.0006285,0.0003122,0.0087348,0.001082,-0.0048685,-0.0211775,-0.0010475
    Iberia_North_IA,0.125205,0.1431895,0.065053,0.0114665,0.058011,0.003347,-0.0034075,0.0045,0.026077,0.034989,-0.002192,0.0088425,-0.0169475,-0.0085325,0.0107215,6.65e-05,-0.008279,0.0008865,-0.000126,-0.00075,0.0082355,0.0023495,-0.0070865,-0.0118085,-0.0061075
    Levant_Ashkelon_IA2,0.0789173,0.1411587,-0.0600877,-0.1049757,-0.0165157,-0.0365343,-0.0036033,-0.017461,0.0156117,0.011906,0.0060623,-0.007094,0.0225967,-0.003991,-0.010541,0.0114467,0.00339,-0.005574,-0.005447,0.0036683,0.0041593,0.0037097,-0.0047657,-0.007471,0.0026343
    Levant_Beirut_IAII,0.089351,0.155376,-0.054494,-0.1002915,-0.0166185,-0.037511,-0.0069325,-0.004269,0.0197365,0.006925,0.009013,-0.0128885,0.0237115,0.0039225,-0.0147935,0.0129275,-0.0003255,0.002217,0.006662,0.0011255,-0.001248,0.005564,-0.00949,-0.002048,-0.001856
    Levant_Megiddo_IA,0.084229,0.150298,-0.060716,-0.091409,-0.014464,-0.044623,-0.00517,-0.005077,0.011658,0.006014,0.012179,-0.007343,0.019177,0.006193,-0.002307,0.002254,-0.026207,0.005828,0.00729,-0.005753,0.001622,-0.002226,-0.006162,-0.000843,-0.005987
    IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA,0.095611,0.111708,-0.069767,-0.036176,-0.047393,0.003626,-0.00235,-0.001846,-0.043155,-0.019499,0.003897,-0.002997,0.008771,0.002615,0.00095,0.009679,-0.010561,0.012922,0.006788,-0.003627,-0.003868,-0.013107,-0.004067,-0.004699,0.007664
    IRN_Hasanlu_IA,0.09675,0.121864,-0.06939,-0.04199,-0.0437,-0.003904,0.002115,-0.004615,-0.033746,-0.014761,0.005684,0.001049,0.004757,-0.007707,0.003664,0.026916,0.009518,0.002534,0.006034,-0.001376,-0.000873,-0.000618,0.000493,-0.003133,-0.001557
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    ITA_Rome_Latini_IA,0.127482,0.147252,0.033187,-0.016796,0.044008,-0.008646,-0.00376,-0.004846,0.026588,0.052666,-0.002761,0.015137,-0.036719,-0.008533,-0.009093,0.013392,0.016037,-0.004687,0.003897,0.004127,0.00262,-0.00272,0.001972,-0.007712,-0.008742
    England_IA,0.1317503,0.1307495,0.0601505,0.0480462,0.0350832,0.0201498,0.0048175,0.0036922,0.0042438,0.0041915,-0.0044248,0.0057322,-0.0105175,-0.018476,0.0180167,0.0100438,0.001206,-6.33e-05,0.0033312,0.003908,0.0038995,0.000247,-0.0012018,0.0114172,0.0004493
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    Scotland_LBA,0.1297585,0.133542,0.0630732,0.0527298,0.0351605,0.0193132,0.0061102,0.0030575,0.001892,-0.0027338,-0.0060082,0.0064818,-0.0180252,-0.0164115,0.024226,0.0058672,-0.0143422,0.0036108,0.0032995,0.0005313,0.0056462,0.0044822,-0.0003393,0.0042172,0.0041315
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    Edito: no sé si servirá para todos, cada vez tengo más claro que G25 a nivel de muestras individuales da resultados aceptables en algunos, y peores en otros. Podéis jugar con esta calculadora y meterle las muestras que deseéis y quitar otras.
    Last edited by rober_tce; 11-29-2020 at 08:06 PM.
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    Target: Juan_scaled
    Distance: 3.1010% / 0.03101012
    37.0 Iberia_North_IA
    28.4 FRA_IA_north
    17.4 Levant_Ashkelon_IA1
    8.8 Iberia_Southeast_BA
    4.0 MAR_Taforalt
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJJ View Post
    Target: Juan_scaled
    Distance: 3.1010% / 0.03101012
    37.0 Iberia_North_IA
    28.4 FRA_IA_north
    17.4 Levant_Ashkelon_IA1
    8.8 Iberia_Southeast_BA
    4.0 MAR_Taforalt
    3.2 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
    1.2 KEN_Pastoral_IA
    Una distancia un poco alta, supongo que te falta el componente guanche para mejorarla.

    Se me olvidó quitar Ashkelon_IA1, ya que parece corresponderse según las últimas investigaciones a cuerpos procedentes de los invasores que llegaron al Levante conocidos como "Pueblos del Mar". Te aconsejaría que quitaras esa muestra ya que presenta una mezcla de genética levantina+griego continental y sardo, por si quieres aislar el componente levantino de manera más "pura". La voy a quitar de la hoja también.
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    Target: gixajo_scaled
    Distance: 1.6592% / 0.01659202

    31.2 FRA_IA_central
    30.8 Iberia_Southeast_BA
    17.4 FRA_IA_south
    8.4 Iberia_North_IA
    6.6 Levant_Megiddo_IA
    4.2 ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o
    1.4 MAR_Taforalt

    Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
    Distance: 2.1190% / 0.02118974

    37.0 FRA_IA_central
    28.2 Iberia_Southeast_BA
    12.8 ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o
    7.6 Iberia_East_IA
    6.2 Levant_Megiddo_IA
    3.4 Iberia_North_IA
    2.0 MAR_Taforalt
    1.8 FRA_IA_north
    1.0 KEN_Pastoral_IA

    Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
    Distance: 2.2452% / 0.02245219

    34.0 Iberia_North_IA
    25.0 FRA_IA_central
    17.2 Iberia_Southeast_BA
    11.0 FRA_IA_south
    5.8 Levant_Megiddo_IA
    5.6 Scotland_LBA
    1.4 MAR_Taforalt

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