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    J1-M267 in Central, South and East Asia

    Yuxin Guo et al., 2020 Joint Genetic Analyses of Mitochondrial and Y-Chromosome Molecular Markers for a Population from Northwest China

    For Y-STRs, the Y-STR haplogroups were predicted by NevGen Genealogy Tools version 1.1 (https://www.nevgen.org/).
    J1a >> L620>> FGC6064> M365 0,0041 1

    J1a3 Z1828> BY69 0,0041 1

    Quite surprising J1 BY69+ among Kyrgyz group in Northwest China.

    https://yfull.com/tree/J-Z18463/
    Last edited by Yaroslav; 05-29-2020 at 03:42 AM.

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    Yes, Steppe riders from Northwest China to Portugal !

    J1a >> L620>> FGC6064> M365 0,0041 1

    That's our group !



    Quote Originally Posted by Yaroslav View Post
    Yuxin Guo et al., 2020 Joint Genetic Analyses of Mitochondrial and Y-Chromosome Molecular Markers for a Population from Northwest China



    J1a >> L620>> FGC6064> M365 0,0041 1

    J1a3 Z1828> BY69 0,0041 1

    Quite surprising J1 BY69+ among Kyrgyz group in Northwest China.

    https://yfull.com/tree/J-Z18463/
    J1 FGC5987 to FGC6175 (188 new SNPs)
    MDKAs before Colonial Brazil
    Y-DNA - Milhazes, Barcelos, Minho, Portugal.
    mtDNA - Ilha Terceira, Azores, Portugal
    North_Swedish + PT + PT + PT @ 3.96 EUtest 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCO View Post
    Yes, Steppe riders from Northwest China to Portugal !

    J1a >> L620>> FGC6064> M365 0,0041 1

    That's our group !
    M365 is a prediction from 24 STRs. No SNPs were tested.

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    FGC6064/M365 has a pretty distinct STR modal easily recognizable even with 12/24 STRs.

    Kyrgiz.jpg
    J1 FGC5987 to FGC6175 (188 new SNPs)
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    Y-DNA - Milhazes, Barcelos, Minho, Portugal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RCO View Post
    FGC6064/M365 has a pretty distinct STR modal easily recognizable even with 12/24 STRs.

    Kyrgiz.jpg
    OK then. Maybe I should run a Nevgen test for accuracy with BY69.

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    For today YFull tree has 2 Chinese samples in haplogroup J1.

    1. Sample YF63544 from J-Z27681, Ningxia province China. He has the TMRCA of 5600 ybp (6900<->4400 ybp) with the people from Iberian peninsula and 5700 ybp (6800<->4600 ybp) with the sample from Chechnya, the Russian Federation. I know the person from Chechnya. He is the Qadi of one of the Chechen districts.What's interesting, before he made the test it was known that he is of Arabic descent. Though Z27681 has no Arabic samples on the YFull tree yet. Islam is the major religion in Ningxia among the Hui Chinese.

    2. Sample YF66218 from J-Y4348, Xinjiang autonomous region of China. Islam is the major religion in Xinjiang among the Uyghurs and the Hui Chinese. He is closer to the Arabs than sample YF63544 having TMRCA of 3300 ybp (3800<->2800 ybp) with the samples from the Arabian peninsula.

    The estimated ages of both samples do not allow to look at them as the results of some Neolithic migrations or so on. The history of Islam in China is more likely though even YF66218 for now seems to be relatively far from the Arabs of YFull J1 tree.

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    J1 P58 mainly from Central Asia

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    Most distant known ancestor Qaraqoyunlu Turkmen Emir Saad, owner of the Chuxur Saad (Erivan province), Chieftain of the Turkoman Saadlu tribe (Black Sheep Turkomans) 14th century. Buried here : Hidden Content


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    Kirgiz and one turkish in same subclade (not sure whether that turkish sample is ethnic turkic or not)
    Looks like result of islamic expansion given the parallel subclades are exclusively arabic.
    Most distant known ancestor Qaraqoyunlu Turkmen Emir Saad, owner of the Chuxur Saad (Erivan province), Chieftain of the Turkoman Saadlu tribe (Black Sheep Turkomans) 14th century. Buried here : Hidden Content


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    Sample id:YF77441 from Gansu province of China has appeared in CTS1460 on YFull tree.

    Demographics

    Gansu is 92% Han and also has Hui, Tibetan, Dongxiang, Tu, Yugur, Bonan, Mongolian, Salar, and Kazakh minorities. Gansu province's community of Chinese Hui Muslims was bolstered by Hui Muslims resettled from Shaanxi province during the Dungan Revolt. Gansu is also a historical home, along with Shaanxi, of the dialect of the Dungans, who migrated to Central Asia. The southwestern corner of Gansu is home to a large ethnic Tibetan population.
    I don't know yet what ethnic group id:YF77441 belongs to. We have one Dungan result in ZS12644 (id:YF73489).

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    Sengupta et al. 2006 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...goB7VEO-vhKWM#

    Balochi HGDP00074 is on the same F2306 branch with the Finnish sample. There is also the information that one Armenian sample appeared having the STR-prediction for F2306. Big Y-700 has been ordered for him.

    Sindhi HGDP00197 is on the Y60194 branch with a man from Italy (Palermo) and scientific ERR445281 India_Hindu_Hindi sample from Chambers et al. 2014 The South Asian Genome.

    Brahui HGDP00045, Brahui HGDP00015 and Brahui HGDP00043 - all three are ZS1711*.
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