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    Correspondencias con muestras arcaicas en Gedmatch

    Tengo curiosidad por confirmar si todos compartimos más o menos las mismas. Abro hilo con las mías.

    A 6 cM:

    - 1 segmento de F999916 LBK, Stuttgart 7ky.

    A 5 cM:

    - 2 segmentos de F999916 LBK, Stuttgart 7ky
    - 1 segmento de F999933 BR2, Hungary, 3.2ky

    A 4 cM:

    - 4 segmentos de F999916 LBK, Stuttgart 7ky
    - 4 segmentos de F999933 BR2, Hungary, 3.2ky
    - 1 segmento de F999918 Loschbour, Luxembourg, 8ky
    - 1 segmento de F999937 NE1, Hungary, 7.2ky
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    Solo veo los ky que son los mismos, se encuentra en GEDmatch Archaic Matches?

    [1] "distance%=1.9178"

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    NW_Iberia_IA,79.8
    Roman_Colonial,12.4
    Berber_EMA,7.8

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJJ View Post
    Solo veo los ky que son los mismos, se encuentra en GEDmatch Archaic Matches?
    Si. En archaic matches.
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    ¿Nadie quiere poner las suyas?

    ¿Podéis decirme al menos si tenéis algo parecido?

    Mi hipotésis inicial es que todo el mundo puntúe más o menos igual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadogowah View Post
    ¿Nadie quiere poner las suyas?

    ¿Podéis decirme al menos si tenéis algo parecido?

    Mi hipotésis inicial es que todo el mundo puntúe más o menos igual.
    Me suena mirarlo en su día y creo que coincidíamos en las muestras, pero yo con menos centiMorgans que tú. No tenía fragmentos de más de 5 cM con ninguna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokordo View Post
    Me suena mirarlo en su día y creo que coincidíamos en las muestras, pero yo con menos centiMorgans que tú. No tenía fragmentos de más de 5 cM con ninguna.
    Supongo que no es nada fiable pero me gustaría saber si son los mismos segmentos y no simplemente casualidades aleatorias. Al fin y al cabo hace diez mil años no había tanta gente pululando por Europa.
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    Comparing Kit hantro FTDNA [Oxford (FTDNA)] and Kit F999916 (LBK Stuttgart 7ky) [GEDmatch Xfer]

    Segment threshold size will be adjusted dynamically between 200 and 400 SNPs
    Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 4.0 cM

    Largest segment = 4.5 cM

    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 8.6cM (0.239 Pct)

    2 shared segments found for this comparison.

    hantro`s Father 23andMe

    Segment threshold size will be adjusted dynamically between 200 and 400 SNPs
    Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 4.0 cM

    Largest segment = 5 cM

    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 5cM (0.138 Pct)

    1 shared segments found for this comparison.

    170559 SNPs used for this comparison.

    hantro´s Father FTDNA

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    Quote Originally Posted by hantrolugharsts View Post
    Compre
    Sobre ese individuo(individua en este caso), es básicamente una granjera neolítica, con un 80% EEF, y supongo que como nosotros tenemos más de un 50% de EEF, nos suele salir cercano(aparte de compartir pequeños trozos de nuestro genoma).

    Remains discovered in Stuttgart, Germany were identified as having been from a female, likely between 22–30 years old, who was a member of a Neolithic farming community. Evidence from excavations of this site shows inhabitants from a number of different cultures throughout the ancient past, and it is not specific to only Neolithic farming communities. Artifacts, such as pottery dating to around 5,500–4,800 BCE, and evidence of ritualized burial practices suggest that at least one of the remains and inhabitants was likely from the Linearbandkeramik (LBK) culture. The LBK culture has been identified as one of the first farming cultures in Europe, and they are known for their distinctive pottery and burial practices.
    Creo que esta es la muestra en el K15:
    Code:
    LBK_Stuttgart,4.32,16.09,0.01,0.01,47.18,0.01,27.40,5.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
    En el k13 hay varios individuos etiquetados como de esa cultura:
    Code:
    I0018_Germany_LBK_EN_7140_ybp,15.88,0.00,49.99,0.00,30.50,3.63,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I0022_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp,15.65,0.00,42.75,0.00,35.61,5.99,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I0025_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp,17.92,0.00,47.03,0.00,31.86,3.20,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I0026_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp,14.40,0.00,45.82,0.00,34.91,4.87,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I0046_Germany_LBK_EN_7051_ybp,13.82,0.00,47.91,0.00,34.56,3.72,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I0048_Germany_LBK_EN_7056_ybp,9.78,0.00,48.17,0.00,38.36,3.69,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I0054_Germany_LBK_EN_7072_ybp,17.59,0.00,49.31,0.00,31.49,1.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I0056_Germany_LBK_EN_7061_ybp,19.69,0.00,45.17,0.00,31.22,3.92,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I0057_Germany_LBK_EN_7070_ybp,12.63,0.00,47.29,0.00,34.66,5.33,0.00,0.09,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I2008_Germany_LBK_EN_7052_ybp,12.37,0.00,52.91,0.00,32.72,2.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I2026_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp,14.02,0.00,47.20,0.00,38.79,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I2029_Germany_LBK_EN_7126_ybp,19.22,0.48,42.64,0.00,33.49,4.17,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I2030_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp,11.88,0.00,46.99,0.00,36.26,4.87,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I2032_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp,14.28,0.00,44.77,0.00,36.15,4.80,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I2036_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp,11.21,0.00,50.57,0.00,34.59,3.63,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I2037_Germany_LBK_EN_7056_ybp,14.16,0.00,48.29,0.00,35.75,1.50,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.29,0.00,0.00
    I2038_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp,13.51,0.00,48.90,0.00,34.56,3.03,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I1550_Germany_LBK_EN_7125_ybp,17.25,0.00,47.61,0.00,32.40,2.74,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I0821_Germany_LBK_EN_6976_ybp,14.88,0.00,47.86,0.00,35.02,2.25,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I0659_Germany_LBK_EN_7037_ybp,15.02,0.00,47.74,0.00,33.06,4.18,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
    I0100_Germany_LBK_EN_6977_ybp,16.42,0.00,47.76,0.00,33.97,1.85,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00


    Y en el G25(scaled), también hay varios(Stuttgart está en Baden-Württenberg, pero no reconozco ninguna sigla que pueda indicarnos cual de estas muestras es esa exactamente):

    Code:
    DEU_LBK_HBS,0.1244086,0.182592,0.0124072,-0.0896648,0.0641812,-0.0429073,-0.0036896,-0.0041883,0.0414365,0.0872364,0.0092805,0.0126936,-0.023927,0.0001514,-0.038877,-0.0078295,0.0197988,0.00515,0.0125886,-0.0122746,-0.0098015,0.0061826,-0.0089292,-0.0052416,-0.0037063
    DEU_LBK_KD,0.127482,0.183811,0.023381,-0.086564,0.079707,-0.043228,-0.010575,0.021691,0.052767,0.091118,0.011205,0.018583,-0.015461,-0.006881,-0.044109,-0.020419,0.002217,0.015836,0.015587,-0.021635,-0.004243,0.022999,-0.025882,0.010363,-0.002994
    DEU_LBK_SCH,0.1142784,0.1787332,0.0100314,-0.0908276,0.0607496,-0.0401042,0.000329,-0.0073844,0.0417638,0.0824072,0.009776,0.0103108,-0.0229828,0.0046242,-0.0385172,-0.0069476,0.018019,0.00451,0.0144304,-0.0110304,-0.0054652,0.0019288,-0.0053244,-0.0122186,-0.0034966
    DEU_LBK_SMH,0.1203421,0.1797025,0.015942,-0.0828642,0.0596754,-0.0407307,-0.0022112,-0.0044264,0.0449487,0.0840605,0.0068277,0.011417,-0.0237046,0.0007444,-0.03699,-0.0066837,0.0194035,0.0016067,0.0141925,-0.0104368,-0.0090976,0.0036702,-0.0058822,-0.0043379,-0.0037395
    DEU_LBK_UW,0.129758,0.178733,0.01961,-0.081719,0.068013,-0.042949,-0.00282,-0.006692,0.037837,0.082553,0.002923,0.019033,-0.022002,0.006193,-0.042616,-0.006762,0.026859,0.006841,0.015209,-0.008254,-0.015972,0.016075,0.000493,-0.005904,-0.007784

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    Siguiendo la línea del hilo con Gedmatch tenía estos resultados míos aprovechando que tuve un tiempo para esta aplicación concreta comparé con los kits que pude obtener en ese momento y que estaban porque los kits ahí hoy están y mañana no. Una pequeña muestra de neolítico, LBK, corded ware, Bell, así como el que no quiere la cosa, pues ahí están los números de kits por si alguien quiere probar con ellos.
























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