Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 12

Thread: My grandfather,Chinese,China Dungane,T-Y13290*

  1. #1
    Registered Users
    Posts
    10
    Sex
    Location
    china
    Ethnicity
    hui
    Nationality
    China
    Y-DNA (P)
    T1a-Y13290*
    mtDNA (M)
    B5a1c
    Y-DNA (M)
    O-CTS4960-MF2636
    mtDNA (P)
    M7c1a5

    China

    My grandfather,Chinese,China Dungane,T-Y13290*

    I've uploaded yfull,https://www.yfull.com/tree/T-Y13293/ id:YF62618

  2. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Ghazi du For This Useful Post:

     Artmar (06-07-2020),  drobbah (06-05-2020),  Farroukh (06-07-2020),  grumpydaddybear (06-06-2020),  PQRS (06-05-2020),  Reza (06-13-2020),  vettor (06-12-2020)

  3. #2
    Gold Class Member
    Posts
    1,561
    Sex
    Omitted
    Location
    Arabsiyo,Somaliland
    Nationality
    Canadian
    Y-DNA (P)
    E-V32>E-FT385910
    mtDNA (M)
    L0a1d
    Y-DNA (M)
    T-FGC92488

    Somaliland Adal Sultanate Yemen African Union Canada
    Nice! Are you Hui or of Turkic origin?

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to drobbah For This Useful Post:

     grumpydaddybear (06-06-2020)

  5. #3
    Registered Users
    Posts
    10
    Sex
    Location
    china
    Ethnicity
    hui
    Nationality
    China
    Y-DNA (P)
    T1a-Y13290*
    mtDNA (M)
    B5a1c
    Y-DNA (M)
    O-CTS4960-MF2636
    mtDNA (P)
    M7c1a5

    China
    Hui ,But there is no complete family record. Many Hui people living in Shandong Province of China are similar to the Western Y chromosome。:)

  6. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Ghazi du For This Useful Post:

     drobbah (06-05-2020),  grumpydaddybear (06-06-2020)

  7. #4
    Registered Users
    Posts
    10
    Sex
    Location
    china
    Ethnicity
    hui
    Nationality
    China
    Y-DNA (P)
    T1a-Y13290*
    mtDNA (M)
    B5a1c
    Y-DNA (M)
    O-CTS4960-MF2636
    mtDNA (P)
    M7c1a5

    China
    https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/xUl82xsNpZHvWpwQ0luxzw I would like to recommend to you a little article written by one of my friends on molecular anthropology of Hui nationality。You can use the translation software to have a look. Thank you

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to Ghazi du For This Useful Post:

     grumpydaddybear (06-06-2020)

  9. #5
    Registered Users
    Posts
    5,757
    Sex
    Location
    Australia
    Ethnicity
    Italian Alpine
    Nationality
    Australian and Italian
    Y-DNA (P)
    T1a2b- SK1480
    mtDNA (M)
    H95a
    Y-DNA (M)
    R1b-S8172
    mtDNA (P)
    T2b17

    Australia Italy Veneto Friuli Italy Trentino Alto Adige Italy Ladinia Austria Tirol
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghazi du View Post
    I've uploaded yfull,https://www.yfull.com/tree/T-Y13293/ id:YF62618
    Your Dna marker states you are from the T1a1 branch ................but all the T branches, T1a1, T1a2 and T1a3 seem to come from that area of south kazaks ( Aral sea area ) and as far south as Turkmenistan ..............while T2-PH110 branch , which is very very old has been found in Bhutan.

    Every T ydna person has snp's from Ydna Haplogroup LT ..................I mean 100% , there is no T person that can avoid not being from haplogroup LT

    LT ydna haplogroup originate from Haplogroup K-M9 50000 years ago
    Last edited by vettor; 06-12-2020 at 05:20 PM.


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

  10. #6
    Registered Users
    Posts
    10
    Sex
    Location
    china
    Ethnicity
    hui
    Nationality
    China
    Y-DNA (P)
    T1a-Y13290*
    mtDNA (M)
    B5a1c
    Y-DNA (M)
    O-CTS4960-MF2636
    mtDNA (P)
    M7c1a5

    China
    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    Your Dna marker states you are from the T1a1 branch ................but all the T branches, T1a1, T1a2 and T1a3 seem to come from that area of south kazaks ( Aral sea area ) and as far south as Turkmenistan ..............while T2-PH110 branch , which is very very old has been found in Bhutan.

    Every T ydna person has snp's from Ydna Haplogroup LT ..................I mean 100% , there is no T person that can avoid not being from haplogroup LT

    LT ydna haplogroup originate from Haplogroup K-M9 50000 years ago
    I don't quite understand,My branch is T1a3b2a1b。Aren't the following four people from the Middle East? (YFULL TREE)(Two Iraqis and two Saudis)Why do they come from Central Asia?

  11. #7
    Registered Users
    Posts
    5,757
    Sex
    Location
    Australia
    Ethnicity
    Italian Alpine
    Nationality
    Australian and Italian
    Y-DNA (P)
    T1a2b- SK1480
    mtDNA (M)
    H95a
    Y-DNA (M)
    R1b-S8172
    mtDNA (P)
    T2b17

    Australia Italy Veneto Friuli Italy Trentino Alto Adige Italy Ladinia Austria Tirol
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghazi du View Post
    I don't quite understand,My branch is T1a3b2a1b。Aren't the following four people from the Middle East? (YFULL TREE)(Two Iraqis and two Saudis)Why do they come from Central Asia?
    yes it is ....T1a3 ...misprint by myself......like this T1a3 below, another misprint ..................the oldest T1a3 skeleton found in Kazak land

    The Iraqi samples are younger than your branch ................they might be part of the Persian story of ..............ancient Persians moving from Uzbekistan to Persia ( iran ) in the late bronze -age

    Kok-Mardan ( 1800 yBP - Late Antiquity ) Kaunchi Culture ( Kangju )

    DA125 ( 1755 41 yBP )
    Kurgan:
    Object:
    Y-DNA: T1a2a1a1-Y13279
    mtDNA: U2e2a1
    Diet (d13C%0 / d15N%0): -16,1 / 11,9
    Subsistence: Nomadic - Pastoral
    Language: Indo-European
    Coverage: 0,212
    Other IDs: IS6 / Lab. UBA-31227 / CGG_2_016123
    Files: FASTQ / FASTQ&BAM (galaxy) / BAM



    companies do not have a standard for T1a1 , T1a2, T1a3...............IIRC isogg has another different set of ID names for the 3 branches


    ..................................................

    I was told this is also T1a3.....but I cannot find any clear call on it

    Gonur Depe ( 3600 yBP - Bronze Age ) Bactria Margiana (BMAC)

    I1781 ( 3550 30 yBP / 3841 yBP )
    Location: a two-chambered cist in Room 218 in Area 5
    Y-DNA: T-M184 (xT1a1a, T1a1b1a, T1a2a1b-Y14637, T1a2b2a1)
    mtDNA: T1a1
    Age at Death: 25-30
    Death Position: Flexed on the right side, oriented NNW
    Burial: 20 ceramic vessels along the west wall of the cist
    Coverage: 0,345139
    Sample: Tooth
    Other IDs: Gonur 2003 / Tomb 3012 / Sample 1 / Library S1781.E1.L1, S1781.E1.L2, S1781.E1.L3 / LabN PSUAMS-206
    Last edited by vettor; 06-13-2020 at 06:36 AM.


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

  12. The Following User Says Thank You to vettor For This Useful Post:

     tipirneni (06-14-2020)

  13. #8
    Registered Users
    Posts
    10
    Sex
    Location
    china
    Ethnicity
    hui
    Nationality
    China
    Y-DNA (P)
    T1a-Y13290*
    mtDNA (M)
    B5a1c
    Y-DNA (M)
    O-CTS4960-MF2636
    mtDNA (P)
    M7c1a5

    China
    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    yes it is ....T1a3 ...misprint by myself......like this T1a3 below, another misprint ..................the oldest T1a3 skeleton found in Kazak land

    The Iraqi samples are younger than your branch ................they might be part of the Persian story of ..............ancient Persians moving from Uzbekistan to Persia ( iran ) in the late bronze -age

    Kok-Mardan ( 1800 yBP - Late Antiquity ) Kaunchi Culture ( Kangju )

    DA125 ( 1755 41 yBP )
    Kurgan:
    Object:
    Y-DNA: T1a2a1a1-Y13279
    mtDNA: U2e2a1
    Diet (d13C%0 / d15N%0): -16,1 / 11,9
    Subsistence: Nomadic - Pastoral
    Language: Indo-European
    Coverage: 0,212
    Other IDs: IS6 / Lab. UBA-31227 / CGG_2_016123
    Files: FASTQ / FASTQ&BAM (galaxy) / BAM



    companies do not have a standard for T1a1 , T1a2, T1a3...............IIRC isogg has another different set of ID names for the 3 branches


    ..................................................

    I was told this is also T1a3.....but I cannot find any clear call on it

    Gonur Depe ( 3600 yBP - Bronze Age ) Bactria Margiana (BMAC)

    I1781 ( 3550 30 yBP / 3841 yBP )
    Location: a two-chambered cist in Room 218 in Area 5
    Y-DNA: T-M184 (xT1a1a, T1a1b1a, T1a2a1b-Y14637, T1a2b2a1)
    mtDNA: T1a1
    Age at Death: 25-30
    Death Position: Flexed on the right side, oriented NNW
    Burial: 20 ceramic vessels along the west wall of the cist
    Coverage: 0,345139
    Sample: Tooth
    Other IDs: Gonur 2003 / Tomb 3012 / Sample 1 / Library S1781.E1.L1, S1781.E1.L2, S1781.E1.L3 / LabN PSUAMS-206
    So do you think my ancestors were from Central Asia or middle east?
    i don’t know if you know the Chinese Hui . In the Yuan dynasty, the Mongols caught a lot of such as Central Asians, Middle Easterners, and even some Eastern Europeans a. They intermarried with the Han nationality in the Ming Dynasty, and later formed the Hui nationality. And believe in Islam。

  14. #9
    Registered Users
    Posts
    5,757
    Sex
    Location
    Australia
    Ethnicity
    Italian Alpine
    Nationality
    Australian and Italian
    Y-DNA (P)
    T1a2b- SK1480
    mtDNA (M)
    H95a
    Y-DNA (M)
    R1b-S8172
    mtDNA (P)
    T2b17

    Australia Italy Veneto Friuli Italy Trentino Alto Adige Italy Ladinia Austria Tirol
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghazi du View Post
    So do you think my ancestors were from Central Asia or middle east?
    i dont know if you know the Chinese Hui . In the Yuan dynasty, the Mongols caught a lot of such as Central Asians, Middle Easterners, and even some Eastern Europeans a. They intermarried with the Han nationality in the Ming Dynasty, and later formed the Hui nationality. And believe in Islam。
    Definetly central asia...where LT split aprt into ydna L and ydna T


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

  15. #10
    Registered Users
    Posts
    10
    Sex
    Location
    china
    Ethnicity
    hui
    Nationality
    China
    Y-DNA (P)
    T1a-Y13290*
    mtDNA (M)
    B5a1c
    Y-DNA (M)
    O-CTS4960-MF2636
    mtDNA (P)
    M7c1a5

    China
    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    Definetly central asia...where LT split aprt into ydna L and ydna T
    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...Khans-of-Kalat
    It was said that the royal family of Khans of Kalat was t1a3b. I don't know if it's true or not

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Sephardic great grandfather
    By Andree in forum General
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 11-06-2018, 05:49 AM
  2. Could my great grandfather have been mixed?
    By SWAHILLI_PRINCE16 in forum African
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 03-23-2017, 10:40 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •