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    Does a high number of American patches point to an American ancestor,

    I am Northern Irish and have over 5,000 American matches on MyHeritage.

    Could this be down to a distant American ancestor, or is it simply due to the large American immigration from here?

    I also have a lot of colonial American matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    I am Northern Irish and have over 5,000 American matches on MyHeritage.

    Could this be down to a distant American ancestor, or is it simply due to the large American immigration from here?

    I also have a lot of colonial American matches.
    No it points to how many Americans have Irish ancestry. I have known family from both sides that have immigrated to the US especially my paternal side where I have more family that have immigrated to the US than have stayed in Ireland. I have a huge number of US matches.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    I also have a lot of colonial American matches.
    While it paled in comparison to the number of Irish immigrants in the mid-19th century, or even immediately following independence, there was a significant amount of Irish immigration to the Thirteen Colonies: especially Anglo-Irish and Ulster Scots, but also some Irish Catholics. The numbers here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirte...ies_population claim that in 1755, 7% of the population was "Scots-Irish" and a further 5% was "Irish".

    In my own family tree I have a few Irish immigrants from the mid-18th century as well as some Scots-Irish and Anglo-Irish immigrants who were mixed in with the early English settlers of New England and the Mid-Atlantic states. Some of them had only been in Ireland for a generation or two though.
    Paper trail:

    Father = 50% English (early American settlers), 25% Dutch, 12.5% Danish, 8% German + some Irish, Scottish and French

    Mother = 75% Ashkenazi Jewish (Russia/Ukraine) and 25% Sephardic (Turkey)

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    Most of my matches are from USA and I'm Brazilian, so you can figure that having American matches doesn't mean having ''American ancestors''. Another example: If you're Portuguese you will have a very high number of Brazilian matches, but it doesn't mean you will have Brazilian ancestry.

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    No, if you have even a drop of NW European ancestry you will get a bazillion American matches. There was just so much migration from this part of the world to the US over the centuries.

    Remember they had a lot of kids and there's more NW Euro descendents in the new world than the old word. 32 million official Irish Americans vs 4 million or so Irish in Ireland. Around 900k Northern Irish Prots in NI vs an estimated 27 million in the USA etc. And there's probably 100s of millions with at least partial English ancestry.
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    I know, my paternal branch is 10x the size of our branch over here.

    But it still raises curiosity.

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    It basically means that more Americans have tested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessie View Post
    No it points to how many Americans have Irish ancestry. I have known family from both sides that have immigrated to the US especially my paternal side where I have more family that have immigrated to the US than have stayed in Ireland. I have a huge number of US matches.

    better to use only the ethnicity's chart which is below that one


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    Just look for the American matches that provide specifics - their townland of origin, say.
    Some American researchers are incredibly knowledgeable and good researchers, and helpful.
    But like any matches, you have to sort them out from the beginners, and those who are just happy to know their ancestors come from somewhere in Ireland.

    The same goes for Australians.
    I know some who lead world-wide locality projects for tiny locations in Ireland. Or surnames.
    And some who just wear green on St Pat's Day.

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