okarinaofsteiner's East Eurasian GEDmatch megathread

**Bbgum** · 02-08-2021, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by okarinaofsteiner

I match many of the archaic European populations (including the Spain Ice Age ones) using a 0.5 cM threshold, much fewer (but still some) using a 1.0 cM threshold, and just one segment with Ballynahatty (Ireland) 3.2k BP using a 2.0 cM threshold.

Interesting because that's the exact same one that I matched with also. More than saturbilia/kotias (CHG). I wish they put more eastern populations

**Kaazi** · 02-08-2021, 05:56 AM

Some harappaworld scores for East Asian pops:

Japanese There are lots of more Japanese in genoplot.

Sample	NE-Asian	SE-Asian	Pygmy	Siberian	American	San	S-Indian	Papuan	Beringian	W-African
Japanese ► HGDP00771	99.54	0.28	0.19	0.01	0	0	0	0	0	0
Japanese ► HGDP00759	90.07	0	0	7.87	0.01	0	0	1.99	0	0.07
Japanese ► NA18971	78.84	19.03	0	0	2.15	0.01	0	0	0	0
Japanese ► HGDP00764	75.65	10.7	0	10.15	0	0	0.19	1.18	2.13	0
Japanese ► HGDP00761	74.63	11.35	0	10.21	0	0	2.26	0.15	1.4	0
Japanese ► NA19001	73.43	12.72	0	9.66	0	0	1.24	0.66	2.28	0
Japanese ► HGDP00751	73.08	12.95	0	10.28	0.64	0	0.98	1.53	0.53	0
Japanese ► NA18975	72.11	14.69	0	10.47	0.35	0	1.07	0.71	0.6	0
Japanese ► NA18992	70.51	12.61	0	12.35	0.59	0	2.05	0.04	1.78	0.07
Japanese ► NA18954	68.33	18.74	0.01	10.78	0	0	0.02	2.11	0	0

North Han Chinese

Sample	NE-Asian	SE-Asian	Siberian	American	Beringian	NE-Euro	S-Indian	Caucasian	SW-Asian	Baloch	Papuan	Mediterranean	Pygmy
Han Shanxi ► Han1970	76.43	14.7	5.75	1.52	0.74	0.33	0.21	0.19	0.13	0	0	0	0
Han Shanxi ► Han1603	76.22	9.91	9.82	0.5	1.14	0.25	0.33	0	0	0	0	1.82	0
Han Shanxi ► Han1899	76.04	11.17	8.13	0.75	0.5	1.61	0.62	0	0	0.67	0.48	0.04	0
Han Shanxi ► Han115	75.2	15.56	7.57	0	0.87	0.01	0	0.33	0	0.07	0.22	0.18	0
Han Shanxi ► Han1843	75.16	15.28	6.83	0.33	0	0.54	1.44	0	0	0	0.42	0	0
Han Shanxi ► Han1897	75.06	11.94	8.91	0.21	0.77	0	0	1.48	0	0	1.09	0.39	0.14
Han Shanxi ► Han855	74.74	12.85	6.83	0.32	0.22	1.24	1.82	0	0	0.63	0.48	0.87	0
Han Shanxi ► Han790	73.46	16.34	5.91	0	0.87	1.06	1.14	1.2	0	0	0	0	0

Sample	NE-Asian	SE-Asian	Siberian	Mediterranean	SW-Asian	Baloch	Caucasian	Papuan	American	Beringian	E-African	Pygmy	S-Indian	NE-Euro	San	W-African
Han Shandong ► Han1896	79.42	15.1	4.98	0.41	0.09	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Han Shandong ► Han1329	77.69	12.55	7.66	0	0	0.29	0	0.76	0	0	0	0	1.04	0	0	0
Han Shandong ► Han220	77.28	16.22	4.31	0	0	0.22	1.2	0.07	0.15	0.35	0.15	0.03	0	0	0	0
Han Shandong ► Han1978	76.99	17.37	3.54	0	0	0.05	0	0	1.91	0	0	0.03	0	0	0.12	0
Han Shandong ► Han853	76.92	13.7	7.21	0	0	0.22	0	0.08	1.04	0	0	0	0.33	0.51	0	0
Han Shandong ► Han1916	76.92	17.28	5.02	0	0	0	0	0.27	0	0	0	0	0	0.5	0	0
Han Shandong ► Han1840	75.37	16.28	6.53	0	0	0	0	1.03	0	0	0	0	0.79	0	0	0
Han Shandong ► Han4	75.15	16.36	6.56	0	0	0.26	0	0.25	0.87	0	0.28	0	0.27	0	0	0
Han Shandong ► Han25	73.45	19.19	4	0	0	0.31	0	0.01	0	1.7	0	0	0.32	0.83	0.02	0.16
Han Shandong ► Han1616	70.99	19.4	5.81	0	0	0	0	0.6	1.88	0	0	0.04	1.27	0	0	0

South Han Chinese

Sample	NE-Asian	SE-Asian	Siberian	S-Indian	Beringian	SW-Asian	E-African	San
Han Guangdong ► Han1207	64.43	33.81	1.77	0	0	0	0	0
Han Guangdong ► Han2087	58.63	41.37	0	0	0	0	0	0
Han Guangdong ► Han1235	56.58	43.36	0	0	0	0	0	0.06
Han Guangdong ► Han1434	54.26	45.04	0	0	0.71	0	0	0
Han Guangdong ► Han1415	52.34	47.39	0	0.27	0	0	0	0
Han Guangdong ► Han2088	50.92	49.08	0	0	0	0	0	0
Han Guangdong ► Han1432	49.05	49.31	0	0	0.19	0.85	0.59	0

Sample	NE-Asian	SE-Asian	Beringian	Baloch	Papuan	E-African	Siberian	SW-Asian	NE-Euro
Han Fujian ► Han1994	66.26	32.33	0.83	0.58	0	0	0	0	0
Han Fujian ► Han1900	65.93	32.97	1.05	0	0	0	0	0	0.04
Han Fujian ► Han1934	65.85	33.51	0	0	0	0	0.64	0	0
Han Fujian ► Han1619	64.6	35.11	0	0	0.28	0	0	0.01	0
Han Fujian ► Han1467	63.49	36.23	0	0	0.27	0.01	0	0	0

Qiang

Sample	NE-Asian	Siberian	S-Indian	Papuan	SE-Asian	Beringian	W-African	Caucasian	American	E-African	San	Baloch	NE-Euro	Pygmy
Qiang Danba ► DBB007	83.66	10.85	3.72	0.92	0.79	0.06	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Qiang Danba ► DBA01	82.75	9.3	4.44	1.4	0.77	0	0.28	0	1.05	0	0	0	0	0
Qiang Danba ► DBA017	81.97	11.77	1.51	0.75	3.16	0	0	0	0.8	0	0	0	0	0.03
Qiang Danba ► DBB006	81.28	9.35	5.5	1.81	1.98	0	0	0	0.07	0	0	0	0	0
Qiang Danba ► DBB002	77.66	9.4	3.94	0.58	7.58	0	0.46	0	0.35	0	0.02	0	0	0
Qiang Danba ► DBB001	74.7	8.07	1.64	1.43	13.98	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0.18
Qiang Danba ► DBA018	74.38	7.75	2.98	0	13.58	1.07	0	0	0	0.25	0	0	0	0
Qiang Danba ► DBA19	71.34	7.38	1.17	0.51	18.66	0.67	0	0.15	0	0	0	0	0	0.11
Qiang Danba ► DBA021	65.9	2.13	0.03	0	29.96	0	0	0	1.36	0	0.16	0.33	0.12	0

Tibetans
Tibetan Chamdo

Sample	NE-Asian	Siberian	S-Indian	Papuan	Beringian	Caucasian	SW-Asian	San	NE-Euro	SE-Asian	American	Baloch	Mediterranean	E-African
Tibetan Chamdo ► T274	79.97	10.64	5.14	1.72	1.02	0.86	0.54	0.1	0	0	0	0	0	0
Tibetan Chamdo ► T247	78.99	11.29	7.87	1.09	0	0	0.41	0	0	0.34	0	0	0	0
Tibetan Chamdo ► T74	78.42	13.3	6.58	1.14	0.55	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Tibetan Chamdo ► T283	77.91	12.28	5.43	1.07	0.81	0.93	0	0.28	0	1.22	0	0	0.06	0.01
Tibetan Chamdo ► T273	77.66	11.04	4.87	1.29	1	0.95	0	0	0.59	1	1.23	0.37	0	0
Tibetan Chamdo ► T194	77.64	12.58	4.5	2.21	0.05	0	0	0	0	2.49	0.17	0	0.36	0
Tibetan Chamdo ► T173	77.58	12.49	6.64	1.28	1.84	0	0	0.17	0	0	0	0	0	0
Tibetan Chamdo ► T144	77.42	12.55	5.38	1.91	0.84	0.9	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0
Tibetan Chamdo ► T196	77.41	11.23	2.95	2.17	2.98	0	0.2	0	0.31	2.7	0.05	0	0	0
Tibetan Chamdo ► T141	77.15	13.56	5.97	1.09	0.36	0	0	0	0.75	0.71	0.43	0	0	0
Tibetan Chamdo ► T363	76.26	13.59	5.8	1.66	0.51	0	0	0	0.59	0	0.13	1.14	0.34	0	0
Tibetan Chamdo ► T282	74.92	12.8	6.2	1.98	0.08	1.78	0	0	0	0.52	1.24	0	0.36	0.09

Tibetans from Lhasa

Sample	NE-Asian	Siberian	S-Indian	Beringian	Papuan	Baloch	Caucasian	Mediterranean	SE-Asian	American	San	NE-Euro	SW-Asian
Tibetan Lhasa ► T76	77.64	11.21	5.71	1.99	1.19	1.06	0.84	0.35	0	0	0	0	0
Tibetan Lhasa ► T185	76.47	11.76	8.34	0	1	1.03	0.49	0	0.19	0.72	0	0	0
Tibetan Lhasa ► T165	76.21	11.3	8.11	1.41	0.88	0	2.09	0	0	0	0	0	0
Tibetan Lhasa ► T183	75.43	13.04	5.6	0	1.19	0.96	2.13	0.22	1.42	0	0	0	0
Tibetan Lhasa ► T170	74.34	10.81	7.79	1.06	2.38	0	0	0.2	1.1	0.28	0.09	0.44	1.52
Tibetan Lhasa ► T181	73.78	12.24	6.93	0.71	1.36	0.44	0	0	1.56	1.18	0	1.8	0
Tibetan Lhasa ► T125	73.78	11.24	7.14	2.92	1.88	1.66	0	0	0.52	0.38	0	0	0.49
Tibetan Lhasa ► T21	73.23	12.73	7.44	1.39	1.41	0.32	0	0	2.1	1.26	0.12	0	0
Tibetan Lhasa ► T18	72.45	12.74	6.11	0	1.3	0.83	0.51	0	4.32	0.17	0	0	1.56

Tibetans (from Shigatse) near Nepal border

Sample	NE-Asian	Siberian	S-Indian	Papuan	American	SE-Asian	Beringian	Baloch	SW-Asian	E-African	Caucasian	Pygmy	San	NE-Euro	Mediterranean
Tibetan Shigatse ► T80	76.18	9.64	8.28	2.12	1.14	0.79	0.61	0.54	0.51	0.18	0	0	0	0	0
Tibetan Shigatse ► T22	75.08	11.71	7.02	2.03	1.18	1.29	0	0.37	0	0	1.31	0	0	0.02	0
Tibetan Shigatse ► T215	74.7	12.3	7.44	1.83	0	0.92	0.98	1.05	0	0	0.6	0	0	0.17	0
Tibetan Shigatse ► T78	73.82	13.79	6.04	2.86	0.65	0.59	0.04	1.21	0.3	0	0.54	0	0.14	0	0
Tibetan Shigatse ► T297	73.5	13.54	6.5	2.56	0.62	0.84	0.34	2.1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Tibetan Shigatse ► T192	72.68	11.49	7.06	1.17	0.28	2.99	1.89	0.45	0	0.35	0	0	0	1.65	0
Tibetan Shigatse ► T291	72	13.81	7.63	1.68	0.78	1.95	0	1.37	0	0.78	0	0	0	0	0
Tibetan Shigatse ► T77	71.92	11.31	8.33	1.79	1.31	1.15	1.29	1.41	0	0	0	0	0	1.51	0
Tibetan Shigatse ► T41	71.48	13.53	8.11	2.32	2.11	1.16	0	0	0	0	0	0	0.03	0.61	0.66
Tibetan Shigatse ► T189	70.2	13.41	9.19	2.24	0.3	3.58	0.13	0.31	0.01	0	0.51	0.11	0	0	0

East Eurasian pops in South Asia
Tibeto-Burmese ethncities from Nepal

Public Sherpa samples

GenoPlot

Sample	NE-Asian	S-Indian	Siberian	SE-Asian	Beringian	NE-Euro	Papuan	Baloch	American	SW-Asian
Sherpa ► Sherpa13	74.41	10.06	9.74	2.63	1.01	0.81	0.52	0.49	0.34	0
Sherpa ► Sherpa04	73.62	9.45	12.8	0.57	1.02	0	2.08	0	0.45	0
Sherpa ► Sherpa09	73.59	8.81	12.26	0.07	0.84	0.41	2.27	0.9	0.07	0.79
Sherpa ► Sherpa08	71.83	9.42	10.11	2.53	2.57	0	2.17	1.37	0	0

Public Rai samples

GenoPlot

Sample	NE-Asian	Siberian	S-Indian	SE-Asian	Papuan	Mediterranean	American	San	Beringian	NE-Euro	Pygmy	Baloch	SW-Asian	W-African	Caucasian
Rai ► Rai04	75.21	8.94	8.88	4.46	1.41	0.46	0.41	0.17	0.06	0	0	0	0	0	0
Rai ► Rai16	74.68	8.21	9.69	5.93	1.16	0	0.23	0	0	0	0.11	0	0	0	0
Rai ► Rai12	73.67	8.23	10.42	2.99	0	1.23	0.82	0	1.16	0	0	0.39	0.31	0	0.77
Rai ► Rai14	71.17	11.1	10.37	4.41	1.7	0.35	0	0	0.4	0.5	0	0	0	0	0
Rai ► Rai09	65.09	9.4	14.6	5.37	1.5	0	0.43	0	0	0.88	0	2.32	0.08	0.33	0

Public Gurung samples

GenoPlot

Sample	NE-Asian	S-Indian	Siberian	SE-Asian	Papuan	American	SW-Asian	Baloch	San	E-African	Caucasian	Beringian	W-African	Mediterranean
Gurung ► Gu18	70.67	10.57	10.35	4.46	1.99	1.92	0.03	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Gurung ► Gu26	70.35	11.27	10.7	3.8	1.61	0.33	0	1.8	0.06	0.08	0	0	0	0
Gurung ► Gu22	64.56	15.94	7.64	3.21	1.46	0	1.61	2.84	0	0	0	2.17	0.57	0
Gurung ► Gu24	64.04	16.03	10.65	3.46	1.54	0.51	0.45	2.9	0	0	0.41	0	0	0
Gurung ► Gu27	60.58	16.28	8.38	4.38	1.82	0.85	0	4.43	0	0	0	0.63	0	2.67

Tamang samples

GenoPlot

Sample	NE-Asian	S-Indian	Siberian	Baloch	Papuan	Caucasian	NE-Euro	American	SE-Asian	San	SW-Asian	E-African	Pygmy	Beringian	W-African	Mediterranean
Tamang ► Ta64	64.05	12.21	9.97	2.9	2.71	2.56	2.36	1.58	1.24	0.41	0	0	0	0	0	0
Tamang ► Ta43	62.83	18.89	7.68	4.11	1.26	0	0.42	0	3.56	0	1.25	0	0	0	0	0
Tamang ► Ta24	62.28	14.9	7.19	5.2	2.96	0	0.3	0.94	4.66	0	0.87	0	0.06	0.57	0.07	0
Tamang ► Ta05	61.72	19.38	8.03	5.97	1.77	0.25	1.4	0.07	1.24	0	0.17	0	0	0	0	0
Tamang ► Ta52	60.14	18.51	6.43	5.96	1	0	0	0	4.11	0	0.28	0	0.35	1.84	0	1.39
Tamang ► Ta80	58.79	18.27	9.39	4.47	2.31	2.67	0.93	0.69	2.47	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Tamang ► Ta39	56.41	17.88	7.98	6.19	1.6	1.91	0	1.02	3.33	0	0	0.21	0	3.46	0.01	0
Tamang outlier ► Ta03	53.18	22.22	4.87	8.88	0.73	1.07	0.79	2.58	5	0	0.33	0.16	0.2	0	0	0

Magar Samples

Sample	NE-Asian	S-Indian	Siberian	American	Papuan	Beringian	Caucasian	Baloch	NE-Euro	SE-Asian	Mediterranean	SW-Asian	E-African
Magar ► Ma23	79.56	10.08	8	1.2	0.74	0.38	0.04	0	0	0	0	0	0
Magar ► Ma11	63.04	15.81	7.95	0.64	0.76	1.9	0.15	2.33	0.76	6.11	0.24	0.3	0
Magar ► Ma07	62.86	17.43	9.38	0	1.75	0.07	0	2.83	1.27	4.24	0	0	0.18
Magar ► Ma30	58.63	18.8	8	0.64	2.15	1.46	0	6.11	0	3.23	0	0	1
Magar ► Ma28	55.1	20.39	6.84	2.19	2.08	1.01	2.46	6.67	0.59	2.66	0	0	0
Magar ► Ma41	54.18	21.27	7.59	0.29	0.53	0	0	6.96	0.79	5.9	1.71	0.77	0

India (Naga)
The Indian Nagas seem to have the highest levels of NE-Asian as a group in gedmatch calcs. Their G25 would be interesting.

GenoPlot

Sample	NE-Asian	Siberian	S-Indian	Papuan	SE-Asian	Beringian	American
Indian Naga ► NAG131	84.94	8.33	3.84	1.82	1.06	0	0
Indian Naga ► NAG134	83.44	6.53	5.98	1.39	2.15	0.51	0
Indian Naga ► NAG129	82.3	6.67	5.18	1.52	4.34	0	0
Indian Naga ► NAG133	81.02	9.11	3.33	1.96	3.93	0.35	0.29

**Kaazi** · 02-08-2021, 06:17 AM

Some folks think looking "Mongoloid" means having Mongol genetic input. Siberian is higher in them than other East Asians.

Mongolian_Daur

Sample	NE-Asian	Siberian	Caucasian	Beringian	Baloch	S-Indian	SE-Asian	Papuan	NE-Euro	SW-Asian	American	Mediterranean
Mongolia Daur ► HGDP01217	62.32	31.99	2.75	1.3	0.83	0.34	0.24	0.23	0	0	0	0
Mongolia Daur ► HGDP01218	60.79	31.43	2.67	1.58	0	0	2.1	1.25	0	0	0.18	0
Mongolia Daur ► HGDP01220	60.73	32.23	1.19	0.01	0.31	0	4.07	0.27	0.39	0	0.81	0
Mongolia Daur ► HGDP01221	59.35	32.97	0	1.29	0	0.58	3.39	0.62	0	0.54	0.53	0.72
Mongolia Daur ► HGDP01222	59.14	33.22	1.5	2.2	0	0	3.69	0.25	0	0	0	0
Mongolia Daur ► HGDP01215	58.82	30.34	0	2.66	0.55	0	4.56	0.67	1.76	0	0	0.64
Mongolia Daur ► HGDP01213	58.09	34.51	0.71	1.11	0	0.05	5.05	0	0	0	0	0.49
Mongolia Daur ► HGDP01216	56.24	33.25	0.36	3.25	0	1	4.02	0.86	0	0.5	0	0.52
Mongolia Daur ► HGDP01214	56	30.96	0.84	0.83	1.84	0.41	6.61	0.29	0	1.73	0.51	0

Mongolians

Sample	NE-Asian	Siberian	SE-Asian	Baloch	Mediterranean	American	SW-Asian	S-Indian	Caucasian	Papuan	Beringian	NE-Euro	San
Mongolian ► HGDP01232	70.18	13.59	9.06	2.28	1.06	1.03	1	0.87	0.42	0.29	0.22	0	0
Mongolian ► HGDP01225	69.69	14.19	11.2	0.79	0	1.06	0	0	1.29	0	0.61	1.17	0
Mongolian ► HGDP01224	69.23	18.39	7.95	2.65	0	0.04	0	0.19	1.16	0	0.2	0.18	0
Mongolian ► HGDP01231	66.55	20.15	8.65	0	0.44	0.27	0	1.23	1.49	0.45	0	0.74	0.04
Mongolian ► HGDP01228	66	18.27	7.72	0.38	0	1.12	0	1.4	1.21	0.21	1.46	2.3	0
Mongolian ► HGDP01227	65.16	18.29	10.01	1.34	1.33	0.59	1.02	0	0.44	0.08	0	1.74	0
Mongolian ► HGDP01223	64.88	21.74	6.72	1.6	1.22	0.88	0.2	0	0.6	0.24	1.16	0.77	0
Mongolian ► HGDP01230	40.97	46	0.44	3.17	0	0	0	1	2.82	0.45	3.29	1.87	0
Mongolian ► HGDP01229	39.27	44.51	2.07	2.64	0.42	0.35	0	1.53	3.6	0.14	3.05	2.42	0
Mongolian ► HGDP01226	38.56	44.91	1.36	3.79	1.05	1.23	0	0	1.64	0.91	3.01	3.54	0

Dai_Chinese

Sample	SE-Asian	NE-Asian	Papuan	American	Beringian	S-Indian	Siberian
Chinese Dai ► HG01807	70.57	28.65	0.79	0	0	0	0
Chinese Dai ► HG02154	70.53	28.99	0.48	0	0	0	0
Chinese Dai ► HG00851	70.33	29.56	0.12	0	0	0	0
Chinese Dai ► HG00982	69.97	30.03	0	0	0.01	0	0
Chinese Dai ► HG02153	68.44	28.28	0.56	0	0	0.73	1.98
Chinese Dai ► HG02180	68.25	31.75	0	0	0	0	0
Chinese Dai ► HG01816	68.25	31.7	0.06	0	0	0	0
Chinese Dai ► HG00864	67.5	30.62	0	0	0	1.88	0
Chinese Dai ► HG01046	66.07	33.15	0.26	0.07	0.45	0	0
Chinese Dai ► HG02164	65.01	33.09	0.33	0.55	0	0.4	0.62

Vietnamese

Sample	SE-Asian	NE-Asian	American	S-Indian	Caucasian	NE-Euro	Papuan	SW-Asian	Baloch	Beringian	San	Siberian
Kinh Vietnam ► HG01860	67.1	30.69	1.11	1.1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Kinh Vietnam ► HG01849	64.16	32.54	0.13	2.31	0.3	0	0	0.09	0.48	0	0	0
Kinh Vietnam ► HG01598	62.59	33.4	0.58	3.18	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0.25
Kinh Vietnam ► HG01597	62.54	34.07	0.17	1.94	0	0	0.65	0	0	0.63	0	0
Kinh Vietnam ► HG01858	62.22	34.7	0.11	2.47	0	0	0.44	0.04	0	0	0.01	0
Kinh Vietnam ► HG01846	61.37	34.94	0	2.53	0.66	0	0	0	0.17	0	0	0.33
Kinh Vietnam ► HG01864	60.54	35.94	0	2.18	0	0	1.02	0	0.33	0	0	0
Kinh Vietnam ► HG01852	60.33	36.88	0.03	1.28	0	0	1.51	0	0	0	0	0
Kinh Vietnam ► HG01863	59.96	37.68	0.38	1.01	0	0.21	0	0.27	0	0	0	0.49
Kinh Vietnam ► HG01840	59.35	37.63	0	2.33	0	0	0.44	0.24	0	0	0	0

**okarinaofsteiner** · 02-09-2021, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by kaazi

Some harappaworld scores for East Asian pops:

Japanese There are lots of more Japanese in genoplot.

Sample	NE-Asian	SE-Asian	Pygmy	Siberian	American	San	S-Indian	Papuan	Beringian	W-African
Japanese ► HGDP00771	99.54	0.28	0.19	0.01	0	0	0	0	0	0
Japanese ► HGDP00759	90.07	0	0	7.87	0.01	0	0	1.99	0	0.07
Japanese ► NA18971	78.84	19.03	0	0	2.15	0.01	0	0	0	0
Japanese ► HGDP00764	75.65	10.7	0	10.15	0	0	0.19	1.18	2.13	0
Japanese ► HGDP00761	74.63	11.35	0	10.21	0	0	2.26	0.15	1.4	0
Japanese ► NA19001	73.43	12.72	0	9.66	0	0	1.24	0.66	2.28	0
Japanese ► HGDP00751	73.08	12.95	0	10.28	0.64	0	0.98	1.53	0.53	0
Japanese ► NA18975	72.11	14.69	0	10.47	0.35	0	1.07	0.71	0.6	0
Japanese ► NA18992	70.51	12.61	0	12.35	0.59	0	2.05	0.04	1.78	0.07
Japanese ► NA18954	68.33	18.74	0.01	10.78	0	0	0.02	2.11	0	0

North Han Chinese

Sample	NE-Asian	SE-Asian	Siberian	American	Beringian	NE-Euro	S-Indian	Caucasian	SW-Asian	Baloch	Papuan	Mediterranean	Pygmy
Han Shanxi ► Han1970	76.43	14.7	5.75	1.52	0.74	0.33	0.21	0.19	0.13	0	0	0	0
Han Shanxi ► Han1603	76.22	9.91	9.82	0.5	1.14	0.25	0.33	0	0	0	0	1.82	0
Han Shanxi ► Han1899	76.04	11.17	8.13	0.75	0.5	1.61	0.62	0	0	0.67	0.48	0.04	0
Han Shanxi ► Han115	75.2	15.56	7.57	0	0.87	0.01	0	0.33	0	0.07	0.22	0.18	0
Han Shanxi ► Han1843	75.16	15.28	6.83	0.33	0	0.54	1.44	0	0	0	0.42	0	0
Han Shanxi ► Han1897	75.06	11.94	8.91	0.21	0.77	0	0	1.48	0	0	1.09	0.39	0.14
Han Shanxi ► Han855	74.74	12.85	6.83	0.32	0.22	1.24	1.82	0	0	0.63	0.48	0.87	0
Han Shanxi ► Han790	73.46	16.34	5.91	0	0.87	1.06	1.14	1.2	0	0	0	0	0

Sample	NE-Asian	SE-Asian	Siberian	Mediterranean	SW-Asian	Baloch	Caucasian	Papuan	American	Beringian	E-African	Pygmy	S-Indian	NE-Euro	San	W-African
Han Shandong ► Han1896	79.42	15.1	4.98	0.41	0.09	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Han Shandong ► Han1329	77.69	12.55	7.66	0	0	0.29	0	0.76	0	0	0	0	1.04	0	0	0
Han Shandong ► Han220	77.28	16.22	4.31	0	0	0.22	1.2	0.07	0.15	0.35	0.15	0.03	0	0	0	0
Han Shandong ► Han1978	76.99	17.37	3.54	0	0	0.05	0	0	1.91	0	0	0.03	0	0	0.12	0
Han Shandong ► Han853	76.92	13.7	7.21	0	0	0.22	0	0.08	1.04	0	0	0	0.33	0.51	0	0
Han Shandong ► Han1916	76.92	17.28	5.02	0	0	0	0	0.27	0	0	0	0	0	0.5	0	0
Han Shandong ► Han1840	75.37	16.28	6.53	0	0	0	0	1.03	0	0	0	0	0.79	0	0	0
Han Shandong ► Han4	75.15	16.36	6.56	0	0	0.26	0	0.25	0.87	0	0.28	0	0.27	0	0	0
Han Shandong ► Han25	73.45	19.19	4	0	0	0.31	0	0.01	0	1.7	0	0	0.32	0.83	0.02	0.16
Han Shandong ► Han1616	70.99	19.4	5.81	0	0	0	0	0.6	1.88	0	0	0.04	1.27	0	0	0

Interesting, the Shanxi and Shandong Han samples both have significantly more (i.e. nonzero) HarappaWorld "S-Indian" than the Fujian and Guangdong Han samples, with Han_Shanxi having more. It isn't as much as the Japanese samples, or as consistent as the Kinh and Qiang samples, but it's still there.

FWIW I consistently score ~1% Papuan or Papuan-like ancestry across multiple GEDmatch calculators and on DNA Land. Not the same as whatever HarappaWorld is picking up as “S-Indian”, but still something in favor of the theory that all modern-day East Eurasians have both Onge-like and Tianyuan-like ancestry.

**Kaazi** · 02-15-2021, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by okarinaofsteiner

Interesting, the Shanxi and Shandong Han samples both have significantly more (i.e. nonzero) HarappaWorld "S-Indian" than the Fujian and Guangdong Han samples, with Han_Shanxi having more. It isn't as much as the Japanese samples, or as consistent as the Kinh and Qiang samples, but it's still there.

FWIW I consistently score ~1% Papuan or Papuan-like ancestry across multiple GEDmatch calculators and on DNA Land. Not the same as whatever HarappaWorld is picking up as “S-Indian”, but still something in favor of the theory that all modern-day East Eurasians have both Onge-like and Tianyuan-like ancestry.

What's interesting is that Hans score negligible S-Indian but score chunks of SE-Asian, while the Tibetans score reverse. Those Yellow River (Han cluster) and Upper Yellow River (Tibetan cluster) have different ethnogenesis or what?

**okarinaofsteiner** · 02-16-2021, 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by kaazi

What's interesting is that Hans score negligible S-Indian but score chunks of SE-Asian, while the Tibetans score reverse. Those Yellow River (Han cluster) and Upper Yellow River (Tibetan cluster) have different ethnogenesis or what?

"SE-Asian" is just East Eurasian rice farmer-like ancestry; I assume this is based on the East Eurasian ancestry component in Munda. The Qiang samples seem somewhere between something like Sichuan Han (more SEA-shifted than Northern Han but not to the same extent as Fujian Han) and Tibetans. The Nepal Tibeto-Burman samples score similar levels of "SE-Asian" as the Tibetan samples.

**Max_H** · 02-24-2021, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by okarinaofsteiner

Interesting, the Shanxi and Shandong Han samples both have significantly more (i.e. nonzero) HarappaWorld "S-Indian" than the Fujian and Guangdong Han samples, with Han_Shanxi having more. It isn't as much as the Japanese samples, or as consistent as the Kinh and Qiang samples, but it's still there.

FWIW I consistently score ~1% Papuan or Papuan-like ancestry across multiple GEDmatch calculators and on DNA Land. Not the same as whatever HarappaWorld is picking up as “S-Indian”, but still something in favor of the theory that all modern-day East Eurasians have both Onge-like and Tianyuan-like ancestry.

Are you sure this is reliable? Is it not odd that some East Asians get African ancestry? Also Japanese getting South Indian? from where/when?

**Max_H** · 02-24-2021, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by kaazi

What's interesting is that Hans score negligible S-Indian but score chunks of SE-Asian, while the Tibetans score reverse. Those Yellow River (Han cluster) and Upper Yellow River (Tibetan cluster) have different ethnogenesis or what?

Tibetans have diferent type of Onge-like ancestry likely closer to AASI than what Han have.

**davit** · 02-24-2021, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by Max_H

Tibetans have diferent type of Onge-like ancestry likely closer to AASI than what Han have.

They might have legit AASI too.

**Max_H** · 02-24-2021, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by davit

They might have legit AASI too.

Tibetans? Yes but possibly recent. Or do you mean their Onge component is AASI

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