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Thread: Do Americans Blacks Have DNA from an Englishman?

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    I get around 80% African and 20% European on most test and about 10% of that is English related. None of my fourth great grandparents are solely European except two because of one Ancestral Irish 3rd great grandfather. So even though I'm 20% Euro I have no recent European/English Ancestors. They are all fifth great grandparents and further with the lineages going back to early colonial settlers including Jamestown settlers.

    Yes the majority was due to rape/coercion and was passed down to recombination but that's not the whole story. I descend from Melungeon, Free People Of Color and Quakers which were consensual and/or pre-enslavement unions and my Irish Ancestry was post-enslavement. Everything isn't tragedy or Black and White, no pun intended.

    @Riverman There no "decent masters" and no enslaved people were treated "fairly well" just as there are no decent murderers. Some were less brutal than others, period.
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    I have discovered while researching my own family that one must not automatically make all the standard assumptions about African-American ancestry. After DNA testing, my African-American son-in-law was shocked to discover that he was only 63% African in ancestry, the rest being European with tiny portions of Native American. His mother turned out to be only 33% African. While my son-in-law carries a common West African Y-DNA haplogroup (E1b1a), his mitochondrial DNA is a T2b which he inherited from his white grandmother. However, the white grandmother turned out to have passed on large chunks of African autosomal DNA to her daughter and had a great-grandfather who was listed on pre and post Civil War censuses as a free "mulatto." It was only after a migration to Indiana after the turn of the 20th century that they show up as "white." Phenotypically, they are. Yet one of their cousins in the male line was shocked to discover he carried a West African Y-DNA haplogroup. This a family that can trace their lineage in the records in the South back to the 1830s. My son-in-law probably gets most of his African autosomal DNA from his father, whose lineage I have traced back to a former Alabama slave.

    My two grandsons carry their father's E1b1a y-dna chromosome yet their mitochondrial DNA probably originates in Zapotec country in Mexico and is thoroughly Native American. They are good-looking boys.
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    Target: Afrikaner
    Distance: 0.4006% / 0.00400586
    43.2 Dutch
    29.6 German
    17.8 Belgian
    6.0 French_South
    2.0 Maratha
    1.4 Bantu_S.E.

    It looks like Afrikaners have some black and Indian

    so it's the same thing the other way around

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracow View Post
    Target: Afrikaner
    Distance: 0.4006% / 0.00400586
    43.2 Dutch
    29.6 German
    17.8 Belgian
    6.0 French_South
    2.0 Maratha
    1.4 Bantu_S.E.

    It looks like Afrikaners have some black and Indian

    so it's the same thing the other way around
    Yes, most of them do. Here's an interesting study:

    Patterns of African and Asian admixture in the Afrikaner population of South Africa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkyway View Post
    thank yuo

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