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    G25 Afrikaner admixture

    Target: Afrikaner
    Distance: 0.4006% / 0.00400586
    43.2 Dutch
    29.6 German
    17.8 Belgian
    6.0 French_South
    2.0 Maratha
    1.4 Bantu_S.E.

    I used the G25 Vahaduo site and made Afrikaners known to their ancestors

    Dutch, German, French, Belgian, Bantu, Indian

    They have less French than I expected, but maybe Belgian is a French Belgian and that can explain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracow View Post
    Target: Afrikaner
    Distance: 0.4006% / 0.00400586
    43.2 Dutch
    29.6 German
    17.8 Belgian
    6.0 French_South
    2.0 Maratha
    1.4 Bantu_S.E.

    I used the G25 Vahaduo site and made Afrikaners known to their ancestors

    Dutch, German, French, Belgian, Bantu, Indian

    They have less French than I expected, but maybe Belgian is a French Belgian and that can explain
    Could Belgian simply refer to the Northern French?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracow View Post
    Target: Afrikaner
    Distance: 0.4006% / 0.00400586
    43.2 Dutch
    29.6 German
    17.8 Belgian
    6.0 French_South
    2.0 Maratha
    1.4 Bantu_S.E.

    I used the G25 Vahaduo site and made Afrikaners known to their ancestors

    Dutch, German, French, Belgian, Bantu, Indian

    They have less French than I expected, but maybe Belgian is a French Belgian and that can explain
    A lot of the huguenot input has most certainly been absorbed by the Belgium and German and even the Dutch. North French, Belgium, South Dutch and West Germans are genetically very close populations.

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    If you use the full spreadsheet of modern averages, once you subtract Scandinavian and British populations you'll find that the Afrikaner average models as predominantly Dutch, French_Brittany and French_Nord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by passenger View Post
    If you use the full spreadsheet of modern averages, once you subtract Scandinavian and British populations you'll find that the Afrikaner average models as predominantly Dutch, French_Brittany and French_Nord.
    In that situation the French Brittany would reflect more the British input rather than the proper French input maybe? . From what I understood, French protestants that went to south Africa with the Dutch were for a big part from North / North Eastern France?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstephan View Post
    A lot of the huguenot input has most certainly been absorbed by the Belgium and German and even the Dutch. North French, Belgium, South Dutch and West Germans are genetically very close populations.
    yes but i don't agree with that :""maybe Belgian is a French Belgian and that can explain" (post1) French Belgian (Walloon) is a linguistisc term and nothing else.
    Last edited by Trelvern; 06-28-2020 at 05:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstephan View Post
    In that situation the French Brittany would reflect more the British input rather than the proper French input maybe? . From what I understood, French protestants that went to south Africa with the Dutch were for a big part from North / North Eastern France?
    Maybe at that point. My New Amsterdam Huguenot ancestors were mostly living in the Low Countries and Nord-Pas-de-Calais in the generations immediately preceding their departure from Europe. But my understanding is that the Huguenots were originally predominant in Central and Southwestern France below the Loire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by passenger View Post
    If you use the full spreadsheet of modern averages, once you subtract Scandinavian and British populations you'll find that the Afrikaner average models as predominantly Dutch, French_Brittany and French_Nord.
    Yes and Bretons are close to Afrikaners:

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    0.01241867 French_Brittany
    0.01258867 Welsh
    0.01324841 English_Cornwall
    0.01450093 Scottish
    0.01473614 English
    0.01491542 Belgian
    0.01545821 Afrikaner
    0.01547404 Orcadian
    0.01549221 Irish
    0.01584263 French_Nord

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    Quote Originally Posted by passenger View Post
    Maybe at that point. My New Amsterdam Huguenot ancestors were mostly living in the Low Countries and Nord-Pas-de-Calais in the generations immediately preceding their departure from Europe. But my understanding is that the Huguenots were originally predominant in Central and Southwestern France below the Loire.
    In fact, I wonder if that has anything to do with the Basque percentage that shows up when modelling with the full spreadsheet, though I'm sure there are other reasons for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by passenger View Post
    In fact, I wonder if that has anything to do with the Basque percentage that shows up when modelling with the full spreadsheet, though I'm sure there are other reasons for that.
    Do you know if there is any reliable documentation about where the French protestants that went to Netherlands came from. From what I heard the ones that went to Britain and then the US came from different areas that the ones that went to Netherlands and then south Africa? I found that link, on that list a significant number of passengers are from North pas de Calais and picardy but I don't know if it reflects the reality. A significant number of passengers are also from deep south France which could explain the south French fraction on the op Post.
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