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Thread: R-Y5587 IS FROM YAMNAYA & CORDED WARE?

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    R-Y5587 IS FROM YAMNAYA & CORDED WARE?

    THE ORIGIN OF R-Y5587

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zulca View Post
    THE ORIGIN OF R-Y5587
    I don't believe any kind of Z2103 has been found in Corded Ware yet.

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    Well, no ancient y-dna from Corded Ware has been any kind of Z2103 yet, so whoever wrote that stuff for that project is speculating or imagineering.

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    I didnt find too. maybe it a hypothesis

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    R1b1a1a2a2c1 found in Afanasyevo

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    3016-2899 calBCE (433525 BP, PSUAMS-2350)
    R1b1a1a2a2c1
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    That's Z2109, right? And Afanasievo isn't Corded Ware.

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    yes, i found these sources:

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    2866-2579 calBCE (412030 BP, PSUAMS-1957)
    Afanasievo Karasuk
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    StPet51, collection 6612,

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    3016-2899 calBCE (433525 BP, PSUAMS-2350)
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    Afanasievo
    I5269
    Tomsk_1950, inventory

    I5277
    Tomsk_2099, inventory
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    3264-2916 calBCE
    Afanasievo

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    Distance to: Mis_scaled (5587+)
    0.07532928 Yamnaya_BGR:Bul4
    0.14426515 Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia:RISE550
    0.14512406 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0357
    0.14613835 Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia:RISE547
    0.14651385 RUS_Afanasievo:I3388
    0.14680035 Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia:RISE240
    0.14726699 RUS_Afanasievo:I5273
    0.14728525 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0439
    0.14760147 Yamnaya_UKR:MJ06
    0.14764009 RUS_Afanasievo:I11112
    0.15001736 Yamnaya_RUS_Caucasus:ZO2002
    0.15130205 RUS_Afanasievo1:I5269
    0.15167661 RUS_Afanasievo:I2071
    0.15262554 RUS_Afanasievo:I1829
    0.15288868 RUS_Afanasievo:I5272
    0.15375816 RUS_Afanasievo:I5270
    0.15489879 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0443
    0.15521035 Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash:Yamnaya_Karagash ( Z2109-Europa)
    0.15524766 Yamnaya_UKR:I2105
    0.15571164 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0231
    0.15685526 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0370
    0.15883352 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I7489
    0.15914870 RUS_Afanasievo:I11752
    0.15945882 RUS_Afanasievo:I3952
    0.15985312 RUS_Afanasievo:I3950

    Distance to: Mis_scaled (5587+)
    0.03781921 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5531 !!!
    0.04118897 Bell_Beaker_CZE_o:I5025 !!
    0.05113620 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I7249 !
    0.05146829 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I5666
    0.05197876 Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale:I1546
    0.05250352 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I7281
    0.05324754 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I7251
    0.05376052 Bell_Beaker_England:I5382
    0.05538293 Bell_Beaker_England:I5379
    0.05564227 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I7212
    0.05623767 Bell_Beaker_NLD:I5750
    0.05667286 Bell_Beaker_England:I6679
    0.05684331 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I7286
    0.05719280 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:E09569
    0.05728742 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5834
    0.05740061 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I3529
    0.05766895 Bell_Beaker_POL:I6583
    0.05799383 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I7213
    0.05840335 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I7269
    0.05948942 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4888
    0.05951693 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I4178
    0.06026150 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4889
    0.06133302 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5525
    0.06150839 Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale:I0111
    0.06161190 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5523
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    I just sent you a PM but realized the results would be interesting to the whole forum since my line is of the other side of the two branched Y-CTS1450 tree.

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